Crash's Jezebel in for a Rebuild-Rebuilding an e46 S54 UPDATE on page 26

Peter@AEW

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moranor@axis said:
Crash_Nemesis said:
If it is the solenoid, that would be the second solenoid to go in roughly 2 years. Something not right.

new solenoid last time?

OR
they said they replaced it and did not
Likely able to find from the serial number and production stamping on the solenoid pack
 

Crash_Nemesis

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Ya, MattQ replaced the solenoid in December of 2011. I bought the car in June of 2012. So, the new solenoid is just over 2 years old.

I honestly do not think it is the solenoid as it's done less than 20 000km on this car, but we can look into whether they did change it, but Goch and Cooper are a reliable workshop, I doubt they would say they changed a solenoid, charge R5500 and then not do it. That being said, the car isn't throwing any codes, but for some reason, the car has lost low down torque.

Beisan systems states that Vanos seal issues are Overall loss of torque and power, particularly in the lower RPM range, < 3k. Bogging then surging at 3k RPM. Uneven power distribution and RPM transition. Engine hesitations in the lower RPM range,

This is the exact problem I am having, but the weird thing is, I never had this issue before. I did at one stage have a loss of power at Top end due to exhaust cam being over retarded by Gtech. Peter fixed this issue for me last year, but now I am having the Vanos seals problem, and we just did Vanos seals.

I'm stumped. Possibility of Beisan sending defect seals or wrong seals for this Vanos?
 

Crash_Nemesis

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From my understand Nikhil, a faulty plug would throw a code. In fact, Beisan says any failure to do with the solenoid, be it intermittent or no signal to the DME, thus a failed or loose plug, would throw a code and an engine light. I am getting no codes relating to solenoid and no engine light.
 

Nikhil

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I Say pull out all the plugs and have a look as you never know, this is Jezebel and the normal does not apply :rollsmile: , I had a faulty plug on my E36 which never threw any errors or any check engine lights, Which caused a loss of power in the lower rpm band but not present higher up. :flyfun:
 

Crash_Nemesis

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We pulled the solenoid on Saturday. Opened the valve cover, checked the Cams as well as the exhaust hub tabs. All is in order.

So not sure...

Going to go Dyno again tomorrow to see if any changes in the graph have appeared.
 

moranor@axis

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highly doubt its faulty seals no one else has reported this to me...

Peter has organised to swap out a solenoid pack onto your car to start the process of elimination if the car behaves the same then we know it is not that... if it is the solenoids then its normaly the solder joins... they can be resoldered
 

alucard

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moranor@axis said:
I suspect the solenoid solder joints have come loose... Peter will do some testing to confirm...

physically everything looks good on the engine so it has to be something electronic causing this...

having driven Jezebel 2 weeks back myself :fencelook: I am rather surprised at this sudden turn... It had plenty pull then and kicked hard from low down

solenoid issue is very common on this car so its probably just that...

I would also look at resolving the post cat O2 issue because if not resolved correctly it will cause the car to run rich to try warm up the cats that are not in place... this will cause sluggish boggy performance issues but I doubt this is your current issue

Seems like everyone is driving this car :fencelook:

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Crash_Nemesis

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LOL. You want to come for a spin?

So, drove her for a bit today, too much traffic to really get her going, but I did some 2500rpm and 3000rpm pulls and she felt strong. So, hopefully whatever Peter did on Saturday, fixed it. Will go Dyno again maybe tomorrow and pull codes and report back.
 

Peter@AEW

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Highly unlikely to be seals as they are checked before placement and once fitted they are rechecked for correct seating.
Until we fit Philips unit and get a result everything is speculation so I will leave it at that for the time being and worry about it once Philip's unit has been tried.
 

moranor@axis

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alucard said:
moranor@axis said:
I suspect the solenoid solder joints have come loose... Peter will do some testing to confirm...

physically everything looks good on the engine so it has to be something electronic causing this...

having driven Jezebel 2 weeks back myself :fencelook: I am rather surprised at this sudden turn... It had plenty pull then and kicked hard from low down

solenoid issue is very common on this car so its probably just that...

I would also look at resolving the post cat O2 issue because if not resolved correctly it will cause the car to run rich to try warm up the cats that are not in place... this will cause sluggish boggy performance issues but I doubt this is your current issue

Seems like everyone is driving this car :fencelook:

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was hoping to Diagnose Crashes handling problem but... I forgot JHB has no corners :fencelook:

Crash_Nemesis said:
LOL. You want to come for a spin?

So, drove her for a bit today, too much traffic to really get her going, but I did some 2500rpm and 3000rpm pulls and she felt strong. So, hopefully whatever Peter did on Saturday, fixed it. Will go Dyno again maybe tomorrow and pull codes and report back.

this also points to an electrical problem... with the engine being out so many times and differnt workshops there are probably a few lurking :( let hope this one is easy to find
 

gavsadler

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A bit of a deviation, but what ever happened to the control arm replacement?

Perhaps that's the issue :p

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Peter@AEW

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alucard said:
moranor@axis said:
I suspect the solenoid solder joints have come loose... Peter will do some testing to confirm...

physically everything looks good on the engine so it has to be something electronic causing this...

having driven Jezebel 2 weeks back myself :fencelook: I am rather surprised at this sudden turn... It had plenty pull then and kicked hard from low down

solenoid issue is very common on this car so its probably just that...

I would also look at resolving the post cat O2 issue because if not resolved correctly it will cause the car to run rich to try warm up the cats that are not in place... this will cause sluggish boggy performance issues but I doubt this is your current issue

Seems like everyone is driving this car :fencelook:

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Define "everyone".......................
 

alucard

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a1exander said:
alucard said:
moranor@axis said:
I suspect the solenoid solder joints have come loose... Peter will do some testing to confirm...

physically everything looks good on the engine so it has to be something electronic causing this...

having driven Jezebel 2 weeks back myself :fencelook: I am rather surprised at this sudden turn... It had plenty pull then and kicked hard from low down

solenoid issue is very common on this car so its probably just that...

I would also look at resolving the post cat O2 issue because if not resolved correctly it will cause the car to run rich to try warm up the cats that are not in place... this will cause sluggish boggy performance issues but I doubt this is your current issue

Seems like everyone is driving this car :fencelook:

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Define "everyone".......................

Everyone but me,lol...just being jealous

Hope you guys found the problem and shes in tip top shape again.

After all the work you guys have done this car will basically be new. Might as well just reset the odometer to 0 and get 'n new service booklet too.

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moranor@axis

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I think what Peter is getting at is the car is most definitely not handed out for Joy rides...

even Alex has not driven it because he has had no reason to that says alot :)

If Crash wants to let people drive the car then its his choice but this is up to him as the owner not us :rollsmile:
 

BillyBob

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Peter, just give me a call and let me know when you need the car... Anything for our resident spanner wielding Adonis. :rollsmile:

Seriously though.. Crash, was there an improvement when resetting adaptations? Could it not just be a bad batch of fuel causing knocking and bad timing pull?

Bear in mind that you've got extra displacement from the overbore - run bad fuel on a leanish mixture with cam advance in the bottom, and it could be plausible... Try filling up the tank and resetting adaptations before dynoing?

If the issue persists, log the car... Somewhere fueling, timing or cam phasing will deviate from the requested values, pointing to a culprit.
 
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