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Project E46 330i Touring
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Blue Shirt
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It sure looks like a key pairing issue to me. Do you get the confirmation signals from the car after pairing is complete? The doors are supposed to lock and unlock when the pairing is accepted.
evnmopwr
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@Tinuva - 1 at a time. Starting the car after i followed the Pairing steps each time before trying to Pair the next.
@Blue Shirt - Nothing at all happens
Another thing, was the car not supposed to BEEP if you leave the key in ignition and open the door??
If i leave the lights on, it beeps but not with the key in
@Blue Shirt - Nothing at all happens
Another thing, was the car not supposed to BEEP if you leave the key in ignition and open the door??
If i leave the lights on, it beeps but not with the key in
You need to do all 3 in 1 go, otherwise only the last key will be paired.evnmopwr said:
If nothing happens, then the pairing didn't happen. The doors lock and unlock to confirm the pairing worked.evnmopwr said:
Thats normal and happens if no DRLs are coded.evnmopwr said:
Dewald Basson
///Member
Why?:hammerhead:
evnmopwr
Well-known member
AAANNNNNNDDDDDD MY BATTERY DIED!!!!
Ok so the Willard 668 battery i installed 2Years ago died. It was a second hand battery i paid R500 for. it came with a 3 month Guarantee. And i bought this at the very beginning of the Touring Project.
Lasted Long enough :roflol:.
So just for FYI, for those looking or needing to replace their 668 battery in their BMWs.
A Replacement 668 with 80amps/h will set you back between R1800 - R2000.
For some reason, they very Pricey
Thanks to CARS A-Z inc in Noll Avenue, Cape town, He Educated me on Batteries, its functions and Why some stuff stops working when they start to lose charge.
Interestingly, i Saved a R200 thanks to this man. Instead of selling me the 668 battery, He sold me a 659 WILLARD with 25months warranty.
He explained:
The Ford Ranger supposed to come out with a 668 battery. but due to it being too high, it would hit the bonnet. So Willard was forced to Redesign this and Released the 659 battery with 80amps/h. Its identical to the 668 Just the top is shorter.
Got it for R1600 Brand new with 25months Warranty.
So save a few pennies...
:ty:
Ok so the Willard 668 battery i installed 2Years ago died. It was a second hand battery i paid R500 for. it came with a 3 month Guarantee. And i bought this at the very beginning of the Touring Project.
Lasted Long enough :roflol:.
So just for FYI, for those looking or needing to replace their 668 battery in their BMWs.
A Replacement 668 with 80amps/h will set you back between R1800 - R2000.
For some reason, they very Pricey
Thanks to CARS A-Z inc in Noll Avenue, Cape town, He Educated me on Batteries, its functions and Why some stuff stops working when they start to lose charge.
Interestingly, i Saved a R200 thanks to this man. Instead of selling me the 668 battery, He sold me a 659 WILLARD with 25months warranty.
He explained:
The Ford Ranger supposed to come out with a 668 battery. but due to it being too high, it would hit the bonnet. So Willard was forced to Redesign this and Released the 659 battery with 80amps/h. Its identical to the 668 Just the top is shorter.
Got it for R1600 Brand new with 25months Warranty.
So save a few pennies...
:ty:
Dewald Basson
///Member
I had a 60amh battery in the e46 which I bought from BMW, it lasted 2 years. Then I replaced it with 80amh version 2 years and still going. When I was pricing the batteries, BMW was only 100bucks more. I can't remember the amount was also into 2000k range.
I think you should talk to @CA_130 , I pretty sure if you allow him he will sanddown down and spray your bumpers. Oke loves a piece sandpaper :tease:
I think you should talk to @CA_130 , I pretty sure if you allow him he will sanddown down and spray your bumpers. Oke loves a piece sandpaper :tease:
CA_130
///Member
Hey hey !
Uncalled for :biglol:
@evnmopwr thanks for the tip on the batteries, I might need to replace mine soon.
have you invested in a battery charger/tender ? The upmarket ones actually have the ability to desulphate(rescue) poor conditioned batteries and maintain them in the long run.
I'm considering doing this before I fork out for a new battery. They're a fraction cheaper than a new battery, but if the rescue works fantastic ! and you save a few hundred.
If the resuscitation is only temporary, oh well, now you have a battery charger to keep your new battery alive :tiptoe::smilebounce:
Uncalled for :biglol:
@evnmopwr thanks for the tip on the batteries, I might need to replace mine soon.
have you invested in a battery charger/tender ? The upmarket ones actually have the ability to desulphate(rescue) poor conditioned batteries and maintain them in the long run.
I'm considering doing this before I fork out for a new battery. They're a fraction cheaper than a new battery, but if the rescue works fantastic ! and you save a few hundred.
If the resuscitation is only temporary, oh well, now you have a battery charger to keep your new battery alive :tiptoe::smilebounce:
evnmopwr
Well-known member
So Last night was quiet eventful and very rewarding ( duration of it was Frustrating. LOL )
Im happy to say, I fixed my Keyfob issue !!!!!!!
Here is the story as it unfolded:
I pulled off the spoiler etc and got the multi-meter ready.
Set to test for Volts
Tested the following Wires:
Violet Red - NO READING. Volts just jumped around haphazardly
White - NO READING. Volts just jumped around haphazardly
Blue Red - NO READING. Volts just jumped around haphazardly
Thinking it may be the meter, connected to the battery and Got a steady 12.64v reading.. So it works.
Switched to test continuity and the exposed wires at the top all beeped with success.
not being able to figure this out, i printed out some info from BimmerForumUK and 1 guy had a break in his wire but as he traced, he realized his break was under the roof liner so he had to remove his.
Out of frustration, i cut open the tube Right-rear next to the Glass lid hinge and to my horror, this is what i found..
ALL MY WIRES BROKEN!!!!
Whether someone replaced the tailgate and cut the wires or the Wires got ripped to bits when the boot was closed, i dont know...
Anyway, i was happy to see that it ripped in an Awkward place and NOT in a DIFFICULT place like under the roof lining.
So i went to the Parts car, Trimmed the same color/gauge wires from it and i proceeded to Extend them abit.
While adding wires, the car starts Beeping at me like CRAZY!!!
Beeeeeeep ... Beeeeeeep ... Beeeeeep ...
So i quickly disconnected the battery ( forgot to do this in the beginning )
Carried on extending the wires and connecting them to the Broken off section..
Multi-meter now gave readings:
Violet Red - about 12v
White - 11v with radio on
Blue Red - 5v
Connected everything up and tested the Keys... THEY STILL DONT WORK~!!!!!! :'(
Then remembered i did not connect the battery. LMAO!!!
Connected and this annoying Beeeeeeep was back...
After scratching my head i remembered reading fuse 49 and 2 others for the touring alarm/Central locking system.
Pulled Fuse 49 and the Beep stopped... FUSE BLEW!!!.
back to the donor car for a fuse and no more beep..
Tried pairing my Key, no response from the door locks.
Went and got the other 2 keys, tried to pair them, no response from the door locks.
Swearing and wanting to give up, I ripped all 3 keys open.
1 Original BMW key and 2 Chinese replacement keys
the 2 Chinese replacement keys have new Duracell Rechargeable batteries in which i replaced not too long ago while fault finding.
the Original key i carefully opened...
used meter:
* tested the 2 Duracell batteries, 3V strong.
* tested the original key battery which i opened and it was Dead as a doornail.
So i proceeded to remove the battery from the Original key...
Swapped the batteries between keys and they just wont Pair up... I now have given up..
but I then noticed, the battery in the original key was 2020 and the Duracell and replacements are 2025.
remembering that the 320i Donor keys worked 100% ok on there, i decided to carefully open it.
Removed the circuit board.
tested the battery and pushing out 3V strong...
Went and paired the keys and VIOLA!!!!! LOCKS CYCLED!!!! Now pressing the buttons locked/unlocked and activated the alarm.
danced around abit and stroking my ego and telling myself how awesome i am... LMAO
I got into the car and wanted to move it, motherF wouldn't start. :'( .
Would do nothing. No click, no nothing...
Tried the spare keys and cars starts...
Nwo my mind starts overthinking... Telling myself the following:
* i need the ring around the Keyhole for it to work
- Realizing its so generic and nothing special about it
* thinking i need the EWS from the 320i now
- Realizing that the EWS will need to be "Coded" to ecu again...
then i calmed down and realized, the Pairing is only for the locks. Not for starting the car.
So i went back to the boot area where all the Split open keys were in and picked up the 1 spare keys circuit board and i realized something important..
The 2 chinese keys "CHIP" were loosely glued on a slot on the key
Like these:
The original key has the chip ON THE BOARD!!!!
Like These:
So i opened my key i paired again.
now saw 1 Loose Chinese Chip and low and behold, the Original CHIP was still on the board for the 320i
remove the 4 claws holding it in place and Pulled it out.
THE CAR STARTED!!!!!!! THE LOCKS WORKED!!!!!!! THE ALARM ACTIVATED!!!!!! DEMISTERS WORKED!!!!!!
AND I NOW HAVE MY RED FLASHING LIGHT ON MY REAR VIEW MIRROR !!!!!!!!!!
So far, i feel this was the biggest accomplishment for me on this car. bigger than the motor swop. Bigger than the Rear ABS Sensor issues. Bigger than the Coding out of the 2 Xtra sedan bulbs on LCM...
Im convinced now, I can fix anything on this car..
With the right help, and Peoples previous experience, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!
Credits go to :
* BMW Fanatics forum members with all the advice/Assistance. Tinuva, Blueshirt ... just to name a few
* "Sapote" on E46Fanatics website
* "CharlE30" on BimmerForumsUK who explained exactly the issues i had and nailed the location to the letter.
* Shabeer for Taking my calls and telling me about the E90 touring he did 3 weeks ago too where the Wire was broken under the roof liner.
* My brother For doing the volt/Continuity tests and convincing me to cut open that tube "Just to see". LOL
Ordered new tube from BMW already
Ordered New Door lock off the 330i VIN so that i can fix the Door lock.
HAPPY CAMPER!!!!!!
PS: Yup, ALLOT of Realising Went on in this one. LMAO!
also, rather a very impulsive Purchase, I bought another "DONOR" Car :fencelook:.
I dont need anything for the touring BUT, Was cheap enough to buy to sell off the spares...
2001 320i Sportspack ( Previous owner installed Non Mtech Front and rear bumpers after Light pile up on highway damaged the Mtech Bumpers )
Also, Car was filthy. LOL.. have cleaned it up
@Riaad, Seats?? LMAO
Im happy to say, I fixed my Keyfob issue !!!!!!!
Here is the story as it unfolded:
I pulled off the spoiler etc and got the multi-meter ready.
Set to test for Volts
Tested the following Wires:
Violet Red - NO READING. Volts just jumped around haphazardly
White - NO READING. Volts just jumped around haphazardly
Blue Red - NO READING. Volts just jumped around haphazardly
Thinking it may be the meter, connected to the battery and Got a steady 12.64v reading.. So it works.
Switched to test continuity and the exposed wires at the top all beeped with success.
not being able to figure this out, i printed out some info from BimmerForumUK and 1 guy had a break in his wire but as he traced, he realized his break was under the roof liner so he had to remove his.
Out of frustration, i cut open the tube Right-rear next to the Glass lid hinge and to my horror, this is what i found..
ALL MY WIRES BROKEN!!!!
Whether someone replaced the tailgate and cut the wires or the Wires got ripped to bits when the boot was closed, i dont know...
Anyway, i was happy to see that it ripped in an Awkward place and NOT in a DIFFICULT place like under the roof lining.
So i went to the Parts car, Trimmed the same color/gauge wires from it and i proceeded to Extend them abit.
While adding wires, the car starts Beeping at me like CRAZY!!!
Beeeeeeep ... Beeeeeeep ... Beeeeeep ...
So i quickly disconnected the battery ( forgot to do this in the beginning )
Carried on extending the wires and connecting them to the Broken off section..
Multi-meter now gave readings:
Violet Red - about 12v
White - 11v with radio on
Blue Red - 5v
Connected everything up and tested the Keys... THEY STILL DONT WORK~!!!!!! :'(
Then remembered i did not connect the battery. LMAO!!!
Connected and this annoying Beeeeeeep was back...
After scratching my head i remembered reading fuse 49 and 2 others for the touring alarm/Central locking system.
Pulled Fuse 49 and the Beep stopped... FUSE BLEW!!!.
back to the donor car for a fuse and no more beep..
Tried pairing my Key, no response from the door locks.
Went and got the other 2 keys, tried to pair them, no response from the door locks.
Swearing and wanting to give up, I ripped all 3 keys open.
1 Original BMW key and 2 Chinese replacement keys
the 2 Chinese replacement keys have new Duracell Rechargeable batteries in which i replaced not too long ago while fault finding.
the Original key i carefully opened...
used meter:
* tested the 2 Duracell batteries, 3V strong.
* tested the original key battery which i opened and it was Dead as a doornail.
So i proceeded to remove the battery from the Original key...
Swapped the batteries between keys and they just wont Pair up... I now have given up..
but I then noticed, the battery in the original key was 2020 and the Duracell and replacements are 2025.
remembering that the 320i Donor keys worked 100% ok on there, i decided to carefully open it.
Removed the circuit board.
tested the battery and pushing out 3V strong...
Went and paired the keys and VIOLA!!!!! LOCKS CYCLED!!!! Now pressing the buttons locked/unlocked and activated the alarm.
danced around abit and stroking my ego and telling myself how awesome i am... LMAO
I got into the car and wanted to move it, motherF wouldn't start. :'( .
Would do nothing. No click, no nothing...
Tried the spare keys and cars starts...
Nwo my mind starts overthinking... Telling myself the following:
* i need the ring around the Keyhole for it to work
- Realizing its so generic and nothing special about it
* thinking i need the EWS from the 320i now
- Realizing that the EWS will need to be "Coded" to ecu again...
then i calmed down and realized, the Pairing is only for the locks. Not for starting the car.
So i went back to the boot area where all the Split open keys were in and picked up the 1 spare keys circuit board and i realized something important..
The 2 chinese keys "CHIP" were loosely glued on a slot on the key
Like these:
The original key has the chip ON THE BOARD!!!!
Like These:
So i opened my key i paired again.
now saw 1 Loose Chinese Chip and low and behold, the Original CHIP was still on the board for the 320i
remove the 4 claws holding it in place and Pulled it out.
THE CAR STARTED!!!!!!! THE LOCKS WORKED!!!!!!! THE ALARM ACTIVATED!!!!!! DEMISTERS WORKED!!!!!!
AND I NOW HAVE MY RED FLASHING LIGHT ON MY REAR VIEW MIRROR !!!!!!!!!!
So far, i feel this was the biggest accomplishment for me on this car. bigger than the motor swop. Bigger than the Rear ABS Sensor issues. Bigger than the Coding out of the 2 Xtra sedan bulbs on LCM...
Im convinced now, I can fix anything on this car..
With the right help, and Peoples previous experience, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!!!
Credits go to :
* BMW Fanatics forum members with all the advice/Assistance. Tinuva, Blueshirt ... just to name a few
* "Sapote" on E46Fanatics website
* "CharlE30" on BimmerForumsUK who explained exactly the issues i had and nailed the location to the letter.
* Shabeer for Taking my calls and telling me about the E90 touring he did 3 weeks ago too where the Wire was broken under the roof liner.
* My brother For doing the volt/Continuity tests and convincing me to cut open that tube "Just to see". LOL
Ordered new tube from BMW already
Ordered New Door lock off the 330i VIN so that i can fix the Door lock.
HAPPY CAMPER!!!!!!
PS: Yup, ALLOT of Realising Went on in this one. LMAO!
also, rather a very impulsive Purchase, I bought another "DONOR" Car :fencelook:.
I dont need anything for the touring BUT, Was cheap enough to buy to sell off the spares...
2001 320i Sportspack ( Previous owner installed Non Mtech Front and rear bumpers after Light pile up on highway damaged the Mtech Bumpers )
Also, Car was filthy. LOL.. have cleaned it up
@Riaad, Seats?? LMAO
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