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M3 V8: Pros and Cons...
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I've had my m3 dct for two months now and it is absolutley the best car i have owned so far. I have no cons to report. What a car! it really is much more of a car than what i thought it would be. love it!
stk
I moved from an 07 m6 smg to 11 m3 dct coupe and really it was a great decision. I know the m6 is faster but when you drive the m3 it doesnt feel slower at all, its a much more rounded car. for me driving the m3 is much better experience than driving the m6.
You have to buy DCT, please dont deprive yourself of the extremely fast shifts (it really is an experience) and its also very smooth.
stk
I moved from an 07 m6 smg to 11 m3 dct coupe and really it was a great decision. I know the m6 is faster but when you drive the m3 it doesnt feel slower at all, its a much more rounded car. for me driving the m3 is much better experience than driving the m6.
You have to buy DCT, please dont deprive yourself of the extremely fast shifts (it really is an experience) and its also very smooth.
vwfourlife
Member
It's strange as I consider myself an outright M fanatic that the e90/92 has not found its way into my garage as yet.
I first considered getting into a V8 in 2009- at that point I had just rationalised with myself why getting an RS4 was off the cards so an e92 was a no brainer but after driving a few- I was rather underwhelmed. It was a really nice car but for me thats where it stopped- just nice. So at that stage I went with a new Z4 M Coupe- and I can say in retrospect the best decision by far- you can hardly even compare the two cars. The Z4 was an extension of me as a driving tool and besides stock for stock she used to lay the smack down on V8 M's.
When the time came to replace the Z4, I again decided to consider the V8, I test drove a few and this time a lot of DCT's also- but again they just didn't offer that experience that I was after. Anyway the Z4 made way for a C63- in stock form she ran a V8 close in terms of dynamic ability in my view and just ran away in terms of power. Once I had her chipped she came alive and I layed the smack down on both Sherwin and Thamen at the Hills one Thursday night. In the end however the 63 for me was too close to the V8 M3 in pedigree an within a month I tired of her and she made way for what I consider the ultimate M ever- my white M6.
The V8 vs the V10 is like taking a knife to a gun fight- Sherwin ran his Hogwarts 12.6 time - in his modded, stripped out, Mickie Thompson shod V8 on the same track, on the same day that I ran consistent 12.7's with my bone stock M6, on street tires. Not to mention the V8 battling to get into the 230kph on the 1km where I was belting out 244kph runs with ease.
I know you didn't specifically ask about the Z4, 63 or M6 but the V8 was a consideration when I decided against it each time and for me I would go those routes again.
The V8 is a nice car but its just that a NICE car an M car for me needs to be spectacular and when the other cars arrived e30/ e36/ e39/ e36 they all re- wrote the rule books- hell the V10 changed the game not just the rules.
Anyway just my 2c
I first considered getting into a V8 in 2009- at that point I had just rationalised with myself why getting an RS4 was off the cards so an e92 was a no brainer but after driving a few- I was rather underwhelmed. It was a really nice car but for me thats where it stopped- just nice. So at that stage I went with a new Z4 M Coupe- and I can say in retrospect the best decision by far- you can hardly even compare the two cars. The Z4 was an extension of me as a driving tool and besides stock for stock she used to lay the smack down on V8 M's.
When the time came to replace the Z4, I again decided to consider the V8, I test drove a few and this time a lot of DCT's also- but again they just didn't offer that experience that I was after. Anyway the Z4 made way for a C63- in stock form she ran a V8 close in terms of dynamic ability in my view and just ran away in terms of power. Once I had her chipped she came alive and I layed the smack down on both Sherwin and Thamen at the Hills one Thursday night. In the end however the 63 for me was too close to the V8 M3 in pedigree an within a month I tired of her and she made way for what I consider the ultimate M ever- my white M6.
The V8 vs the V10 is like taking a knife to a gun fight- Sherwin ran his Hogwarts 12.6 time - in his modded, stripped out, Mickie Thompson shod V8 on the same track, on the same day that I ran consistent 12.7's with my bone stock M6, on street tires. Not to mention the V8 battling to get into the 230kph on the 1km where I was belting out 244kph runs with ease.
I know you didn't specifically ask about the Z4, 63 or M6 but the V8 was a consideration when I decided against it each time and for me I would go those routes again.
The V8 is a nice car but its just that a NICE car an M car for me needs to be spectacular and when the other cars arrived e30/ e36/ e39/ e36 they all re- wrote the rule books- hell the V10 changed the game not just the rules.
Anyway just my 2c
mahinder-suresh
New member
bring a Z4 M anyday:bs:
I like the way you have compared alot of other fast cars to the M3 V8 and well the M6 is very nice for you however the M3 to me is so much more of a racing bred car and technologically superior(DCT vs SMG no comparison). My mate has a M6 with everything done to it and it is very impressive and sounds wicked and i love the amount of power that V10 pushes out. Track use is why i went for the DCT M3 and overall feel. M6 was a bit beeeg
I like the way you have compared alot of other fast cars to the M3 V8 and well the M6 is very nice for you however the M3 to me is so much more of a racing bred car and technologically superior(DCT vs SMG no comparison). My mate has a M6 with everything done to it and it is very impressive and sounds wicked and i love the amount of power that V10 pushes out. Track use is why i went for the DCT M3 and overall feel. M6 was a bit beeeg
vwfourlife
Member
M3_FTW said:
Then SB must have a sick car or a dud- I have the time slips, video evidence and M&M has the brusied ego as evidence enough of the way my Z4 used to run. Stock my car made 321bhp at the wheels in DBN on pump fuel- my brothers V8 made precious little more than than on the same dyno in DBN.
edrich zwiers said:bring a Z4 M anyday:bs:
I like the way you have compared alot of other fast cars to the M3 V8 and well the M6 is very nice for you however the M3 to me is so much more of a racing bred car and technologically superior(DCT vs SMG no comparison). My mate has a M6 with everything done to it and it is very impressive and sounds wicked and i love the amount of power that V10 pushes out. Track use is why i went for the DCT M3 and overall feel. M6 was a bit beeeg
Don't get me wrong, I am still an M enthusiat for life- I actually have an e36 M3 turbo sleeping in my garage at the moment. It's just for me the e9x version of the genre was not as much an improvement as I expected- But its just my opinion. I am glad you enjoying yours. I can remember driving my boets for the first time when he had his X-pipe and FRC moved the limiter to 9000rpm- was AWESOME.
Brilliant car no doubt - just not for me.
Really don't know what will do it for me these days- see my review of the Porsche 911 GT3 on the VWGTI Club Forum- was very disappointed. Went there ready to jump in and drive the black beast home- and was left deflated. Seems my goal posts have been shifted.
George Smooth
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So the conclusion is M6 with Supercharger. ESS is releasing its kit next week.:thumbsup:
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anile8-zn
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M3ftw , ask daren he he drove the car against shwerwin at the hills.
also ask sherwin , stock for stock the z4 m is faster,
you cant really say the v8 is faster from "190" , that is after the 800m mark.
if you talking topend then yes the v8 us faster after say 220 , but thats gearing .
z4m did 13.5 flat at odi bone stock .
also ask sherwin , stock for stock the z4 m is faster,
you cant really say the v8 is faster from "190" , that is after the 800m mark.
if you talking topend then yes the v8 us faster after say 220 , but thats gearing .
z4m did 13.5 flat at odi bone stock .
vwfourlife
Member
M3_FTW said:
Here you go- note Sherwin- is +/- half a car ahead out the line. The Z4 catches and maintains all the way down the run. Note- Bone STOCK Z4 M vs Exede Tuned e90 M3 with Exhaust- hows them Pork Pies.
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anile8-zn
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ASH M
Active member
This is a bunch of :bs: I had this debate out before on the forum, makes no sense.
You want a drag car go buy your self one Nissan 1400 and stick a 2lr EGI motor in it, worked to the hilt and run circles around a supercars. Please stop talking about how your car can whip this and whip that. I don't think an M car was ever designed to be fast only in a straight line. Show it some bends, take it to a track day and lay down some times then brag. Anyone can go fast in the straight, who cares???
We forgetting the point of this thread, "pros and cons" not how fast it is or what car it can beat.
If you wanna talk "how fast", my car is done by Xcede. I killed C63 (stock & modded) also had a few runs with my mates M5, the M3 runs in front over and over again. But see were this is going, every one can lay claim to having the fastest car but there will always be someone faster then you.
As for the M3 e9X, this just awesome. Own one (DCT) and you'll know what i'm talking about. You can't compare others to it in terms of just outright performance, it not a TRACK car its a high performance ROAD car. I don't race mine, its just a comfortable car that i can take the family around in and have that extra horses in it to have some fun on track. The SMG was good back in the day, if you knew how to drive it at slow speeds, but the DCT is just light years ahead :thinking:
Its really a no brainer, that why only the guys who don't own one talk #### about it and that goes for you to Mr Anile8, i'm sure if you still had yours, your talk would had been different?
I'm not starting a fight, rather let guys who own the car comment on it as for the rest keep your comments to yourself as some of them make no sense and contribute dust to the pros and cons....
You want a drag car go buy your self one Nissan 1400 and stick a 2lr EGI motor in it, worked to the hilt and run circles around a supercars. Please stop talking about how your car can whip this and whip that. I don't think an M car was ever designed to be fast only in a straight line. Show it some bends, take it to a track day and lay down some times then brag. Anyone can go fast in the straight, who cares???
We forgetting the point of this thread, "pros and cons" not how fast it is or what car it can beat.
If you wanna talk "how fast", my car is done by Xcede. I killed C63 (stock & modded) also had a few runs with my mates M5, the M3 runs in front over and over again. But see were this is going, every one can lay claim to having the fastest car but there will always be someone faster then you.
As for the M3 e9X, this just awesome. Own one (DCT) and you'll know what i'm talking about. You can't compare others to it in terms of just outright performance, it not a TRACK car its a high performance ROAD car. I don't race mine, its just a comfortable car that i can take the family around in and have that extra horses in it to have some fun on track. The SMG was good back in the day, if you knew how to drive it at slow speeds, but the DCT is just light years ahead :thinking:
Its really a no brainer, that why only the guys who don't own one talk #### about it and that goes for you to Mr Anile8, i'm sure if you still had yours, your talk would had been different?
I'm not starting a fight, rather let guys who own the car comment on it as for the rest keep your comments to yourself as some of them make no sense and contribute dust to the pros and cons....
vwfourlife
Member
ASH M said:
You entitled to your opinion as I am mine and mine is that the e9x M is over-rated, hence the reason I haven't owned one. Your ownership experience doesn't give you any more or less insight than the rest of us- its still just your experience. And by the way if performance isn't what your M3 is about- go get a 320i Start.
ASH M said:
Just by the way- if you keen to try a modded C63 with your Exede M3 can arrange a hookup for you. Personally I think the ones you ran were pretty pap !!!!
Aske Sherwin- he will explain.
Dean ///M
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Z4 M for President!!! Like sex on da beach...
Wanna go track racing get a Mini Cooper S JCW.
Yes M6 is some other animal....but for track I'm happy with my ZM also fitted complete BMW Performance suspension kit on my N55 135i, what a difference in handling especially the steering feel is more like the ZM. Wanna go fast in a straight line like a C63 (cant' go around bends...lol) go N55. With Stage1 s/w & dP only managed 12.1 in da states, catching up with the N54's & not even a year old...
Wanna go track racing get a Mini Cooper S JCW.
Yes M6 is some other animal....but for track I'm happy with my ZM also fitted complete BMW Performance suspension kit on my N55 135i, what a difference in handling especially the steering feel is more like the ZM. Wanna go fast in a straight line like a C63 (cant' go around bends...lol) go N55. With Stage1 s/w & dP only managed 12.1 in da states, catching up with the N54's & not even a year old...
mahinder-suresh
New member
Pro of the M3 V8 is you can do 10 laps and more of Kyalami for instance where the force fed machines give up after 3 laps if that.
ASH M
Active member
vwfourlife said:
Nah, you keep your modded C63 for a race with someone else, because you and your bro can't be beat. No one ever mentions a race again your guys and your get all defensive, explaining how fast your car is. Why? Nobody cares my friend.
As for the 320i start, its not a bad idea as it will murder an M3 i'm sure, in your books at least
mahinder-suresh
New member
Pro of the M3 V8 is you can do 10 laps and more of Kyalami for instance where the force fed machines brakes give up after 3 laps if that.
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anile8-zn
Guest
ASH M said:
You joking right?
i have owned the m3 and dct would not make any differnce to my opinion.
v8 m3 is not that great its my opinion .
also i sold it, so i dont think i would be singing any other story even if i still had it .
Just beacuse u own the car doesnt make it the best thing since sliced bread
get some perspective by actually going for a drive in a fast car .
PS decided to buy another 335i while i await te new m5 , will line up with you next week when i am in jhb , then you can show me how an exede m3 does against a "rep mobile".
rather keep the m3 on the track cause on the street and strip they are dogs of note for modded v8's
also why is no one commenting on the video
its m vs m ???
not a modded ford vs an m3
ASH M
Active member
anile8-zn said:
I'm at the coast boet :wave: Suggest you bring the logbook and come as well, i never pay this kind of money to race people and brag about it.
For your info no one wants to comment on your video because even the manufacture can't accomplish what we see...
We had this debate out before, lets not open a can of worms now and repeat out selves. I'm not the only one preaching about an M3, ask anyone on the street to name you a few cars they would like to own, and guaranteed at least 8 times out of 10 it will pop up. If if wasn't as good as BMW says it is, why does everyone incl. other manufactures use it as a benchmark??? I need say any more, the proof is in the pudding.
