F80 M3 on top gear

[Coisman]

what about the F1 turbo engines?
what about the Alpina turbo bmws?

what about the g-string? :mmm:

 

[S1NGH 911]

:roflol:

 

[Gizmo]

Formula 1 turbo BMW motors were by Brabham and outlawed by FIA very quickly.
Alpina is a aftermarket tuning house who turbocharged NA engines.

 

[Coisman]

but did they last??

also how many turbo bmws are there world wide?? millions...

 

[Gizmo]

They would only last the whole race after being detuned after qualifying.

There are lots of aftermarket turbo BMWs in LHD markets because its the cheapest/easiest way to make power and the kits are readily available for the LHD market. Your point?

 

[Coisman]

...actually I was implying how many factory built turbo bmws are there worldwide... but yea...I'm still wondering about the g-string :facepalm:

 

[Webmaster]

Yasss you boys have big bladders, or its coming out slowly.
This was about the new M3 and its bag of tricks, but it has been turbocharged to the 'Fanatics state of the Union'.
Everyone just go to bed.

 

[DieselFan]

Do turbo diesels count? 420k kms...

I dont see why you're against turbos it just makes sense it's utilising a byproduct to make the car faster and more efficient...

I like the new M4 and M3 I've never driven one nor have I driven in one. But I've only hear good things about them from owners.

One owner who owns a supercharged e92 m3 does say the e92 is a more exhilarating and engaging drive. But he does love his m4 to.

 

[Fuzz@tinyNET]

And on that bombshell, it's time to end!

Goodnight! :bin:


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[Coisman]

but fuzz...what about my g-string question??

 

[Gizmo]

Fuzz, you and I know there is way more to M cars besides the motor but 8 out of 10 people who buy these cars dont, for them it's all straightline performance and then they puss foot around the corners and never know how good the chassis really is. It's not like it can be exploited in this country anyway as our national speed limit is 120, your motorplan and insurance is void if you take it round a track and the general state of our roads does not allow for the exploitation, you of all people know what the consequences are of M3 + windgat driver + poor/uneven road conditions equals.

 

[dlk001]

They lost alot of respect by going turbo, not only from me but from M fans all over the world...:sorry:

M fans on bmwfanatics here have lost respect of M3/4?

All over the world? M fans on bimmerpost have lost respect of M3/4?

You making this up aren't you? :=):

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your motorplan and insurance is void if you take it round a track

BMW has never voided motorplan for driving a car around a track. That is like saying BMW will void motorplan for driving 335i at 250kph. They are built for that purpose.

 

[Gizmo]

Lost respect for M division, the m3 will sell with whatever engine you put in it, it's just one of those cult cars that everyone wants...I too would love one but there are far better things you can do with +1million rand...

 

[Gizmo]

BMW has never voided motorplan for driving a car around a track. That is like saying BMW will void motorplan for driving 335i at 250kph. They are built for that purpose.

Hahahaha! Clearly you don't go to the track then!

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So the guy's under motorplan who take their cars to the track block out the vin and remove their plates and tax disc for weight reduction? Hahaha you must be new here...

 

[dlk001]

BMW has never voided motorplan for driving a car around a track. That is like saying BMW will void motorplan for driving 335i at 250kph. They are built for that purpose.

Hahahaha! Clearly you don't go to the track then!

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So the guy's under motorplan who take their cars to the track block out the vin and remove their plates and tax disc for weight reduction? Hahaha you must be new here...

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You are confusing yourself. Now you concede that BMW M owners exploit their cars on track days. Guys track their M cars and exploit them and BMW has never voided motorplan. Show me instances where BMW cancelled motorplan because owner drove it around a track? Next thing you will be saying BMW will void motorplan if you drive an X5 offroad.

BMW expects owners to take their M-cars to track days. This is what BMW says about M-Cars.

 

[Dewald Basson]

Formula 1 turbo BMW motors were by Brabham and outlawed by FIA very quickly.
Alpina is a aftermarket tuning house who turbocharged NA engines.

Wikipeida quote.

"The BMW M12/13 turbo 1500 cc 4-cylinder turbocharged Formula One engine, based on the standard BMW M10 engine introduced in 1961, powered the F1 cars of Brabham, Arrows, Benetton and won the world championship in 1983. It also powered the BMW GTP and in the 2.0 liter naturally aspirated form, the successful March Engineering Formula Two cars. The BMW M12/13 turbo engine is the most powerful BMW engine ever produced, the most powerful Formula 1 engine ever produced, and from a race perspective the most successful BMW engine of all time"

Just like the s70 was not a Mclaren engine.

Car development has always been about efficiency no matter what car or brand you look at , more power from less fuel. If adding a turbo is part of the process so be it, whether we like it or not.

Plus then there is the little thing called being financially competitive. If a manufacture does not adopt it will die. Then there wil be no M car for us to argue about. :rollsmile::rollsmile:

 

[Gizmo]

BMW has never voided motorplan for driving a car around a track. That is like saying BMW will void motorplan for driving 335i at 250kph. They are built for that purpose.

Hahahaha! Clearly you don't go to the track then!

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So the guy's under motorplan who take their cars to the track block out the vin and remove their plates and tax disc for weight reduction? Hahaha you must be new here...

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You are confusing yourself. Now you concede that BMW M owners exploit their cars on track days. Guys track their M cars and exploit them and BMW has never voided motorplan. Show me instances where BMW cancelled motorplan because owner drove it around a track? Next thing you will be saying BMW will void motorplan if you drive an X5 offroad.

BMW expects owners to take their M-cars to track days. This is what BMW says about M-Cars.

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From your statements it's clear you have never owned a bmw under motorplan, or you just sign legal documents without reading them...There is a clause that's says you are not allowed to use it in any form of motorsport, if found doing so then motorplan is void....but hey, don't believe me, come to your first bmw track day and find out for yourself...

 

[MaX]

Formula 1 turbo BMW motors were by Brabham and outlawed by FIA very quickly.
Alpina is a aftermarket tuning house who turbocharged NA engines.

Not going to get involved in this but maybe read here: http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/05/31/the-most-powerful-f1-car-ever/

And for those too lazy to read; most powerful formula 1 engine EVER built is a 1.5l, 4cylinder BMW Turbo.

BMW FTW :cartel:

 

[dlk001]

From your statements it's clear you have never owned a bmw under motorplan, or you just sign legal documents without reading them...There is a clause that's says you are not allowed to use it in any form of motorsport, if found doing so then motorplan is void....but hey, don't believe me, come to your first bmw track day and find out for yourself...

I don't need to own a BMW on motorplan to know facts

Show me evidence of BMW SA voiding motorplan because of track day. One proof please. I'm not even asking for instances anymore. Just one!!!

and to inform you...read this from an informed person

We have never had an issue with a Motorplan being suspended or cancelled as a result of attending one of our track days.

As I understand it, BMW Motorplan reserves the right to reject a specific claim if there is evidence of driver abuse. What constitutes that evidence is not up to any of us but BMW Motorplan, and I assume would vary on a case by case basis.

As a precaution, some members do blank off their licence plates, licence disc and VIN numbers at the track days. I believe this is more about their insurance policies than Motorplan, hence we worked very hard on arranging track use insurance for our members that is available currently. The concern of tyre use again is more of an insurance concern than Motorplan, however if the incorrect tyre size is used with the incorrect rolling circumference this may have a negative effect on the drive train and increase wear on certain components.

I hope this answers your question, I cannot provide much more information on the subject than this.

Kind regards,

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[Gizmo]

Now that comes from the bmw club who organise the track days and will lose business if they state the motorplan clause.
You will get a way different answer from BMW SA on the subject, they can give you all the info about it and cases where motorplans have been void, but once again, you don't believe me then see for yourself...

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Take your m4 around kyalami on the next track day with plates and tax disc visible and prove me wrong then...I will kindly send the pics/video to BMW SA for you...