SASOL 10PPM Diesel

Yulz9081

Honorary ///Member
cust1234 said:
Just my 2c regarding regulation - In South Africa, the price of retail petrol is built up on a cost recovery mechanism with a small allocation for a wholesale profit. The department aggregates the costs incurred by all of the oil companies and works out an average c/l margin to apply to the retail price. As a result, the oil companies are incentivised to be more efficient across the value chain (thus resulting in incremental returns to the company if they can beat the regulated margin). De-regulation will remove this incentive and, in my opinion, lead to increased costs in the long term.

In addition, due to our dependence on fuel, the key item is to ensure security of supply. If you de-regulate, you move the power into the hands of the oil companies. Remember that, in a de-regulated market, pricing is set where supply meets demand. Can you imagine the catastrophe if the oil companies pull back on refinery production? They could essentially drive the price of fuel up whenever they want (think back to the de-regulation of energy prices in California during the Enron period). Furthermore, this can be consequential due to an unplanned refinery shut-down, etc.

PS as a side comment - The company that benefits the most of the regulated pricing though is Sasol. The fundamental starting component of the fuel price is the BFP (Basic Fuel Price) - which is what the oil companies are compensated for ex-refinery gate. The BFP is primarily driven by the influences of the crude oil price and the exchange rate. As Sasol relies on CTL (Coal to Liquid) and GTL (Gas to Liquid), they have no exposure to these variables. So when the BFP is adjusted, their costs remain flat and their profits increase. So sometimes, as good as it is to buy local, understand that you're driving up the profits of a company which is protected by a regulated framework.

As said before, just my 2c :=):


Apologies, should have mentioned that this is in relation to regulation in general and not regulating the diesel prices.

Moral of the story: Hold on to your Sasol shares :rollsmile:
 

ChefDJ

///Member
I still had some 50ppm in the tank when I filled in, so more or less half and half...

By power of subtraction, does that mean I'm now stuck with 40ppm? :roflol:
 

Nikhil

Honorary ///Member
ChefDJ said:
I still had some 50ppm in the tank when I filled in, so more or less half and half...

By power of subtraction, does that mean I'm now stuck with 40ppm? :roflol:

maybe lol. Any difference that you can feel?
 

Astro

Member
ChefDJ said:
I still had some 50ppm in the tank when I filled in, so more or less half and half...

By power of subtraction, does that mean I'm now stuck with 40ppm? :roflol:

Closer to 30ppm:=):
 

Tjnkambule

New member
Guys, I have a concern, I was at sasol Sunnyside Pretoria, there was a guy who work there claiming to be a manager, he said ".....I receive all the stocks in this garage & sasol doesn't have 10ppm diesel,all these other garages they just replace 50ppm sticker/label on the pump with 10ppm label, if sasol comes with new product they will let ALL garages know" has anyone heard this somewhere? :confused:
 

cOlDFuSiOn

New member
Well I usually fill up @ sasol and put in 54l of the stuff just now and have done 10Km so far.. let's see how the performance/consumption goes for the weekend, resetting all OBC values :thumbs:
 

Astro

Member
The Sasol in Centurion Lytellton road only has 50ppm. When enquiring about 10ppm the attendant assures me that Sasol 50ppm is the best.:blab:
 

cOlDFuSiOn

New member
Perhaps it's the placebo effect but I did not always get wheelspin pulling away @1500 on my old tyres.. today however with my brand new rubber I was fighting for traction.. so maybe it is different or maybe the ambient temps were just lower so I had cooler air to combust, who knows consumption @ 7.1/100 over 105KMs so far..
 

STREETDREAMER

///Member
filled yesterday on kingsway road towards n12 from springs @ R13.52 drove about 100kms i dont know if its in my head to feel a difference or if there really is a difference consumption also at 7.1 after 100kms does feel abit smoother need to drive abit longer with it and see
 

Arbee

Honorary ///Member
R12.97 at Mintys Sasol on Jan Smuts, Rosebank. Will see what happens after the 3rd tank.

Sent from my Xcede tuned Samsung S4!
 

ChefDJ

///Member
Tjnkambule said:
Guys, I have a concern, I was at sasol Sunnyside Pretoria, there was a guy who work there claiming to be a manager, he said ".....I receive all the stocks in this garage & sasol doesn't have 10ppm diesel,all these other garages they just replace 50ppm sticker/label on the pump with 10ppm label, if sasol comes with new product they will let ALL garages know" has anyone heard this somewhere? :confused:

Our consumer protection act will allow you to nail them if they are :nonono:
 

cOlDFuSiOn

New member
Jokes aside... I either got a damn good batch of diesel or they seriously did something here.. Car feels so much more alive.. :thumbs: Who will get the Cetane number tested for us?
 
cOlDFuSiOn said:
Jokes aside... I either got a damn good batch of diesel or they seriously did something here.. Car feels so much more alive.. :thumbs: Who will get the Cetane number tested for us?

diesel in a 320i?:fencelook:
 

cOlDFuSiOn

New member
cOlDFuSiOn said:
Jokes aside... I either got a damn good batch of diesel or they seriously did something here.. Car feels so much more alive.. :thumbs: Who will get the Cetane number tested for us?

diesel in a 320i?:fencelook:

What 320i? Mine are all retired, E90s were hopeless cars..


michaelniszl said:
Hopefully with there being 10ppm diesel in South Africa, the 335d will soon make an appearance.

We have the 535d those are awesome!! :thumbs:
 
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