Nikhil said:I wonder if this will mean less smokeI like smoke
sunnyj said:Great news for diesel owners, injectors should also last longer too :thumbs: We need more Sasol garages - buy local.
AshG108 said:Gents,
i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:
AshG108 said:Gents,
i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:
AlexTDI said:This is great! I will start using Sasol then :bravo:
+1 on the regulating of Diesel, I don't fill up in the North as I've seen prices being around R1/L more than in the dodgy South
Evotheory said:Please entertain a friendly debate about whether the earlier suggestion that regulating the price of diesel would be better. I am of the view that prices are higher when a regulator determines a pricing model. I think consumers would enjoy lower prices and a wider variety of options if dealers had to compete against each other in an unregulated market like any other chain store/retailers. Your views?
Naruto said:AshG108 said:Gents,
i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:
Do they have a different pump for this? Is 10ppm on display?
phantom said:+1 on regulating the price of diesel.Whats the use of having a car lighter on fuel if that fuel is more expensive.Have noticed a difference of up to 70c per litre in our town.:thumbdo:
Oresome said:phantom said:+1 on regulating the price of diesel.Whats the use of having a car lighter on fuel if that fuel is more expensive.Have noticed a difference of up to 70c per litre in our town.:thumbdo:
What you Said Phantom!
If i agreed with you we would both be wrong. :biglol:ChefDJ said:Oresome said:phantom said:+1 on regulating the price of diesel.Whats the use of having a car lighter on fuel if that fuel is more expensive.Have noticed a difference of up to 70c per litre in our town.:thumbdo:
What you Said Phantom!
Regulate the price, and it will jump... :nonono:
cust1234 said:Just my 2c regarding regulation - In South Africa, the price of retail petrol is built up on a cost recovery mechanism with a small allocation for a wholesale profit. The department aggregates the costs incurred by all of the oil companies and works out an average c/l margin to apply to the retail price. As a result, the oil companies are incentivised to be more efficient across the value chain (thus resulting in incremental returns to the company if they can beat the regulated margin). De-regulation will remove this incentive and, in my opinion, lead to increased costs in the long term.
In addition, due to our dependence on fuel, the key item is to ensure security of supply. If you de-regulate, you move the power into the hands of the oil companies. Remember that, in a de-regulated market, pricing is set where supply meets demand. Can you imagine the catastrophe if the oil companies pull back on refinery production? They could essentially drive the price of fuel up whenever they want (think back to the de-regulation of energy prices in California during the Enron period). Furthermore, this can be consequential due to an unplanned refinery shut-down, etc.
PS as a side comment - The company that benefits the most of the regulated pricing though is Sasol. The fundamental starting component of the fuel price is the BFP (Basic Fuel Price) - which is what the oil companies are compensated for ex-refinery gate. The BFP is primarily driven by the influences of the crude oil price and the exchange rate. As Sasol relies on CTL (Coal to Liquid) and GTL (Gas to Liquid), they have no exposure to these variables. So when the BFP is adjusted, their costs remain flat and their profits increase. So sometimes, as good as it is to buy local, understand that you're driving up the profits of a company which is protected by a regulated framework.
As said before, just my 2c :=):