SASOL 10PPM Diesel

Astro

Member
It may be more expensive, but at least it has the potential to offer slightly better kw performance....
 

sunnyj

New member
Great news for diesel owners, injectors should also last longer too :thumbs: We need more Sasol garages - buy local.
 

Yulz9081

Honorary ///Member
sunnyj said:
Great news for diesel owners, injectors should also last longer too :thumbs: We need more Sasol garages - buy local.

Local will need to come to the party and lower their prices first.
 

AshG108

///Member
Gents,

i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:
 

Naruto

///Member
AshG108 said:
Gents,

i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:

Do they have a different pump for this? Is 10ppm on display?
 

lambchop

Member
AshG108 said:
Gents,

i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:

Ouch - I paid R13,77 a Litre at Shell
 

Evotheory

Member
Please entertain a friendly debate about whether the earlier suggestion that regulating the price of diesel would be better. I am of the view that prices are higher when a regulator determines a pricing model. I think consumers would enjoy lower prices and a wider variety of options if dealers had to compete against each other in an unregulated market like any other chain store/retailers. Your views?
 
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petrivanzyl

Guest
AlexTDI said:
This is great! I will start using Sasol then :bravo:

+1 on the regulating of Diesel, I don't fill up in the North as I've seen prices being around R1/L more than in the dodgy South

If they regulated it it would be R1/L more everywhere:flyfun:
 

ChefDJ

///Member
Evotheory said:
Please entertain a friendly debate about whether the earlier suggestion that regulating the price of diesel would be better. I am of the view that prices are higher when a regulator determines a pricing model. I think consumers would enjoy lower prices and a wider variety of options if dealers had to compete against each other in an unregulated market like any other chain store/retailers. Your views?

+1

However they don't really compete that well, do they?

2c cheaper here, 7c cheaper there...
 

sunnyj

New member
From Fin 24:

"Cape Town - Sasol has launched its turbodieselTM ULS 10ppm, which complies with international standards for sulphur and cetane, it announced on Wednesday.

"It is indeed a huge milestone for Sasol and South Africa,” said Sasol retail manager Mohamed Carrim.

The turbodieselTM ULS 10ppm is the lowest sulphur content diesel available in South Africa.

"It has advanced detergency and lubricity properties to keep the engine and fuel injection system clean and well protected", the firm said in a statement.

It will also produce less harmful exhaust emissions and allows latest technology vehicles fitted with exhaust after treatment devices to operate freely.

Motorists will also consumer less fuel because It requires less regeneration effort.

Carrim said a key part of the new product is its advanced detergency.

"This prevents or removes deposit build-up in the engine and fuel system, allowing the engine to operate at optimum efficiency and sustain optimum fuel consumption over time.

"Continued use will maintain new fuel systems as well as clean up dirty fuel systems,” he said.

Sasol turbodieselTM ULS 10ppm is available at 78 forecourts in Gauteng and Mpumalanga and will be selectively rolled-out to other areas from 2014."

Can't wait for it to arrive in KZN.
 

AshG108

///Member
Naruto said:
AshG108 said:
Gents,

i have just filled up with the new 10ppm diesel, havent really felt much of a difference yet but didnt drive far enough either...although i can tell you that Sasol North Reef, Bedfordview has their 10ppm diesel discounted at all times to R12.94 per litre.:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

that suits my pocket just fine :rollsmile:

Do they have a different pump for this? Is 10ppm on display?

Nope, it's part of the normal pump and it is on display but 2 other garages in the areas didn't have it yet. One garage didn't even know about it's existence
 

CliftonH

///Member
Even if it is a little more expensive, the benefits are worth it. Will be trying it on my next fill up. :thumbs:
 

Rory

Member
I put some in at mintys this morning. It was R12.97/l. I doubt it's different to what was already in there, I'm sure they just changed the label on the pump. Can't comment on performance as I'm too broke to put my foot down right now :p
 

Oresome

New member
phantom said:
+1 on regulating the price of diesel.Whats the use of having a car lighter on fuel if that fuel is more expensive.Have noticed a difference of up to 70c per litre in our town.:thumbdo:

What you Said Phantom!
 

Rayzor

Well-known member
We should start making a list of all the Service stations that have the 10ppm:thumbs:


And include the prices :rollsmile:
 

ChefDJ

///Member
Oresome said:
phantom said:
+1 on regulating the price of diesel.Whats the use of having a car lighter on fuel if that fuel is more expensive.Have noticed a difference of up to 70c per litre in our town.:thumbdo:

What you Said Phantom!

Regulate the price, and it will jump... :nonono:
 

phantom

Member
ChefDJ said:
Oresome said:
phantom said:
+1 on regulating the price of diesel.Whats the use of having a car lighter on fuel if that fuel is more expensive.Have noticed a difference of up to 70c per litre in our town.:thumbdo:

What you Said Phantom!

Regulate the price, and it will jump... :nonono:
If i agreed with you we would both be wrong. :biglol:
 

cust1234

Member
Just my 2c regarding regulation - In South Africa, the price of retail petrol is built up on a cost recovery mechanism with a small allocation for a wholesale profit. The department aggregates the costs incurred by all of the oil companies and works out an average c/l margin to apply to the retail price. As a result, the oil companies are incentivised to be more efficient across the value chain (thus resulting in incremental returns to the company if they can beat the regulated margin). De-regulation will remove this incentive and, in my opinion, lead to increased costs in the long term.

In addition, due to our dependence on fuel, the key item is to ensure security of supply. If you de-regulate, you move the power into the hands of the oil companies. Remember that, in a de-regulated market, pricing is set where supply meets demand. Can you imagine the catastrophe if the oil companies pull back on refinery production? They could essentially drive the price of fuel up whenever they want (think back to the de-regulation of energy prices in California during the Enron period). Furthermore, this can be consequential due to an unplanned refinery shut-down, etc.

PS as a side comment - The company that benefits the most of the regulated pricing though is Sasol. The fundamental starting component of the fuel price is the BFP (Basic Fuel Price) - which is what the oil companies are compensated for ex-refinery gate. The BFP is primarily driven by the influences of the crude oil price and the exchange rate. As Sasol relies on CTL (Coal to Liquid) and GTL (Gas to Liquid), they have no exposure to these variables. So when the BFP is adjusted, their costs remain flat and their profits increase. So sometimes, as good as it is to buy local, understand that you're driving up the profits of a company which is protected by a regulated framework.

As said before, just my 2c :=):


cust1234 said:
Just my 2c regarding regulation - In South Africa, the price of retail petrol is built up on a cost recovery mechanism with a small allocation for a wholesale profit. The department aggregates the costs incurred by all of the oil companies and works out an average c/l margin to apply to the retail price. As a result, the oil companies are incentivised to be more efficient across the value chain (thus resulting in incremental returns to the company if they can beat the regulated margin). De-regulation will remove this incentive and, in my opinion, lead to increased costs in the long term.

In addition, due to our dependence on fuel, the key item is to ensure security of supply. If you de-regulate, you move the power into the hands of the oil companies. Remember that, in a de-regulated market, pricing is set where supply meets demand. Can you imagine the catastrophe if the oil companies pull back on refinery production? They could essentially drive the price of fuel up whenever they want (think back to the de-regulation of energy prices in California during the Enron period). Furthermore, this can be consequential due to an unplanned refinery shut-down, etc.

PS as a side comment - The company that benefits the most of the regulated pricing though is Sasol. The fundamental starting component of the fuel price is the BFP (Basic Fuel Price) - which is what the oil companies are compensated for ex-refinery gate. The BFP is primarily driven by the influences of the crude oil price and the exchange rate. As Sasol relies on CTL (Coal to Liquid) and GTL (Gas to Liquid), they have no exposure to these variables. So when the BFP is adjusted, their costs remain flat and their profits increase. So sometimes, as good as it is to buy local, understand that you're driving up the profits of a company which is protected by a regulated framework.

As said before, just my 2c :=):

Apologies, should have mentioned that this is in relation to regulation in general and not regulating the diesel prices.
 
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