JB4 (N54/N55) Support Thread, South Africa

Shaun m

Inactive
@Twins just a quick question,
Is it safe to use map 7 with just downpipe and msport back box?
Just had my jb4 installed currently on map 2
 

Quick///M

Well-known member
Here is a description of the map info as for you question twins can answer it

Map Info

Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: Peak boost 12.5psi, suggest for most racing applications.
Map 2: Peak boost 14.0psi, suggested for those using exhaust mods and 93 RM2 octane or higher fuels
Map 3: Progressive methanol mapping
Map 4: Stock performance, JB4 on
Map 5: Autotuning, enabled in 8.8 and later firmware
Map 6: User definable map. Suggested for troubleshooting by professionals only.
Map 7: Race gas map. Peak boost 18.5psi. Requires straight unleaded race gas.
 

Kish2604

Administrator
Staff member
Shaun m said:
@Twins just a quick question,
Is it safe to use map 7 with just downpipe and msport back box?
Just had my jb4 installed currently on map 2

if you have a jb4 + downpipes plus axle back exhaust then you good to go... but please remember golden rule, do not use map 7 without the appropriate min 100 octane fuel in the tank.
 

Twinz

Forum - Support
Staff member
Thanks Kish and Treschen for helping out on this thread. I am not always online. :thumbs::thumbs:

Shaun, my suggestion is to run map 5 as your daily map. If you have meth then map 3 always. I have found that the autotuning maps are much safer since tuning adjust according to changing variables such as ait's, fuel octane etc...

As Kish said, map 7 requires straight race gas or a very high octane fuel blend of witches brew or ethanol or NF concentrate. Try various high octane fuels on map 5 and log it then you can view your fuel trims, timing and AFRs before running map 7. You may also find that you make more power on map 5 then on map 7 anyway.
 

Shaun m

Inactive
Ok thanks for the info, I thought map 5 was for tuning purposes only. Will map 5 work fine with pump gas or do i need to use some e85?
These jb4's are something else, i only ran map 2 but there isnt as much power as i expected there is a slight power increase but im not battling for traction. I heard with jb alot of guys battle for traction but thats not the case for the 235i. Cant wait for map 5:thumbs:
 

Quick///M

Well-known member
Shaun m said:
Ok thanks for the info, I thought map 5 was for tuning purposes only. Will map 5 work fine with pump gas or do i need to use some e85?
These jb4's are something else, i only ran map 2 but there isnt as much power as i expected there is a slight power increase but im not battling for traction. I heard with jb alot of guys battle for traction but thats not the case for the 235i. Cant wait for map 5:thumbs:

Map 5 will adjust to the octane you have in the car be it pump, or other. Did you read up on the latest EWG Firmware for JB4 ? I am thinking you need to run some logs and let the expects in this thread have a look at


Treschen said:
Shaun m said:
Ok thanks for the info, I thought map 5 was for tuning purposes only. Will map 5 work fine with pump gas or do i need to use some e85?
These jb4's are something else, i only ran map 2 but there isnt as much power as i expected there is a slight power increase but im not battling for traction. I heard with jb alot of guys battle for traction but thats not the case for the 235i. Cant wait for map 5:thumbs:

Map 5 will adjust to the octane you have in the car be it pump, or other. Did you read up on the latest EWG Firmware for JB4 ? I am thinking you need to run some logs and let the expects in this thread have a look at

I take that back wait for confirmation before even considering new firmware
 

Shaun m

Inactive
@treschen i need to download the jb4 on my phone to do logs, cause my usb cable is not long enough for laptop to be in the car while i log. I have the ewg harness aswell on my car
 

Kish2604

Administrator
Staff member
Service announcement:

If anyone with a N54 needs to load a back end flash, drop me a pm and I can load it for you as I have a BT (Bavarian Technique) cable.

Durban and surrounds- you need to come to me...:thumbs:
 

Twinz

Forum - Support
Staff member
Same as previous firmware. The only difference is you can use the 6 channel ign timing interface with this firmware.
 

Kish2604

Administrator
Staff member
i am currently using hex 28 with the new interface that it was designed to run on, the most benefit on the new interface will be for n54 users however other E and F series cars can also use it,

key differences are:
dual bank logging of AFR ***where supported by the engine type***
logging of all 6 cylinders with regards to ignition or retard numbers ***where supported by the engine type***
relabeling of the Future use values
format of the colums in the logs reproduced has changed slightly...
 

fsalie

Member
Running JB4 on N54 with DCI. Running the car on MAP 1, I find that when I am on DS and drive the car hard (town driving - robot to robot) JB4 switch my map to 4. No error codes tho. Changing DSC off, no issues and JB4 stays on MAP 1. Anything I must be concerned about? Temp is around 120deg C.


Another question, does the metal piece on the airfilter cone of the DCI get HOT?? I know the engine bay does get hot.
 

Bernard///M3

BMW Car Club Member
fsalie said:
Running JB4 on N54 with DCI. Running the car on MAP 1, I find that when I am on DS and drive the car hard (town driving - robot to robot) JB4 switch my map to 4. No error codes tho. Changing DSC off, no issues and JB4 stays on MAP 1. Anything I must be concerned about? Temp is around 120deg C.


Another question, does the metal piece on the airfilter cone of the DCI get HOT?? I know the engine bay does get hot.



I'm no expert but could be your Boost hitting the Boost limit, which puts into limp mode or Map4. Try increasing your Boost Limit
 

FiRi@Rennzport

Well-known member
Official Advertiser
What version of jb software are you running. ...try and keep it updated. Know of someone who was having the same problem but with map 5, when he floored it it would switch to map4, loading hex 28 and all went away.
 

Chavoos

Active member
Common causes from N54 tech

The first is the over-boost safety. If boost exceeds the value you've set under user adjustment the SES light will flash once and the JB4 will switch itself to map 4 until you restart the car. The default setting is 18psi. Common causes for this are setting the value too low for the map/intended usage, improperly configured or defective wastegates, or JB4 setting problems.

The second is the run-lean safety system. If your air/fuel ratio (either bank) runs leaner than 14:1 over 4500rpm for more than a second the SES light will flash twice and the JB4 will again switch itself to map 4 until you restart the car. Common causes are maxed out fuel trims (see E85 notes above) or o2 sensor faults. Note any o2 sensor fault must be corrected for the tuning to operate properly.

Another commonly triggered fault is low fuel pressure. If your high fuel pressure drops below 7 (~800psi) the JB4 will flash the SES light three times and switch to map 4 until you restart the car. Common causes are an inadequate low pressure pump, too strong of an E85 mixture for your tuning/fuel pump, or a failing high pressure pump.


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There is also a function on the JB4 to keep DTC off all the time.


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Drama

Member
Quick///M said:
Here is a description of the map info as for you question twins can answer it

Map Info

Map 0: JB4 disabled
Map 1: Peak boost 12.5psi, suggest for most racing applications.
Map 2: Peak boost 14.0psi, suggested for those using exhaust mods and 93 RM2 octane or higher fuels
Map 3: Progressive methanol mapping
Map 4: Stock performance, JB4 on
Map 5: Autotuning, enabled in 8.8 and later firmware
Map 6: User definable map. Suggested for troubleshooting by professionals only.
Map 7: Race gas map. Peak boost 18.5psi. Requires straight unleaded race gas.

What are the main differences between Map 1 and 5 besides 5 being auto-tuning? What is the peak boost on Map 5? Lastly, can Map 1 being used on an otherwise stock car?
 

FiRi@Rennzport

Well-known member
Official Advertiser
I stand to be corrected. Map 1 limits boost to 11or 12 psi. Map 5 is auto learning and doesn't have those limiters in place. Using map 5 would be your best option, as it calculates the different variables and adjusts accordingly.
 

Drama

Member
Firoze_D said:
I stand to be corrected. Map 1 limits boost to 11or 12 psi. Map 5 is auto learning and doesn't have those limiters in place. Using map 5 would be your best option, as it calculates the different variables and adjusts accordingly.

So if those variables are favorable, how much can it boost?
 
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