justcruzin
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Is the 320d 2000 model still good? i jeard so much stories about turbo issues???
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Dippies
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There is nothing wrong with the Diesel motors. The biggest issue was with the Turbos in the early 2000 models up to 2005 2006. when the E90 came out.
Produced one of the Best Diesel Engines in my opinion more reliable and Stronger. the price is fair on E90 2007 models and range anything from 150k-190k for low mileage.
the E46 2000 models and Facelift models from 55k to 80k
Produced one of the Best Diesel Engines in my opinion more reliable and Stronger. the price is fair on E90 2007 models and range anything from 150k-190k for low mileage.
the E46 2000 models and Facelift models from 55k to 80k
justcruzin
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My budget is only R80k but u said the 2000 diesels are problems.
is the 2000 models 530d also problem turbos?
is the 2000 models 530d also problem turbos?
Nic_s
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Just about any car you buy will have some sort of issue you need keep an eye out for whether it's a diesel or petrol. Best is to buy a car you like best and make sure you have some money left to replace bits and pieces and with a BMW it's usually plastic bits and pieces.
When it comes to a 2000 540 or 740, the thing I would look at first is the belts on the front of the engine and the adjustable pulley that holds it in place. If those belts go, you cannot drive the car at all, but it's not to expensive replace especially if you go for Febi parts. I can't think of anything else that's obvious on the 5 or 7 series. The V8 motor's are pretty solid as far as know. Mine is the older motor so hopefully someone like Rick540 will comment on the newer V8's and have some more info for you.
The biggest draw back of the V8 is the fuel consumption, the fact that it needs 8 spark plugs, 8 Coil packs (Although these can last like 10 years), and 7.5L of oil every time you service it. But then if you have a bigger motor, you need be ready to pay more to keep it going.
When it comes to a 2000 540 or 740, the thing I would look at first is the belts on the front of the engine and the adjustable pulley that holds it in place. If those belts go, you cannot drive the car at all, but it's not to expensive replace especially if you go for Febi parts. I can't think of anything else that's obvious on the 5 or 7 series. The V8 motor's are pretty solid as far as know. Mine is the older motor so hopefully someone like Rick540 will comment on the newer V8's and have some more info for you.
The biggest draw back of the V8 is the fuel consumption, the fact that it needs 8 spark plugs, 8 Coil packs (Although these can last like 10 years), and 7.5L of oil every time you service it. But then if you have a bigger motor, you need be ready to pay more to keep it going.
justcruzin
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Thanks everyone for your valuble input!!!!!!!!!!
My search will get wider and wider until i gather all the info i need to gather.
even looking at the 320 touring 2000 model
My search will get wider and wider until i gather all the info i need to gather.
even looking at the 320 touring 2000 model
///MALCOLM325
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justcruzin said:
AFAIK there is no 320 Touring Pre-facelift. Perhaps you meant 325 touring 2000 model?
justcruzin
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///MALCOLM325 said:
ye si think so.. im just reading what they post on gumtree sales...
THATS why i am on here for INFO :thumbs:
with an 80k budget u can get a decent 3 series e46 maybe even a 330 but not the neatest if ur lucky
also there is a member (crash nemises) selling his e46 talk to him his car is in good condition and well taken care of ,
and just so u knw the 3 series is an icon and a good starting point frm an opel ,or u could get a 5 series or just get a 7 series then ur the biggest on the road , no turbos last forever , :rollsmile:
also there is a member (crash nemises) selling his e46 talk to him his car is in good condition and well taken care of ,
and just so u knw the 3 series is an icon and a good starting point frm an opel ,or u could get a 5 series or just get a 7 series then ur the biggest on the road , no turbos last forever , :rollsmile:
justcruzin
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always loved the 5 and 7 series..... its like you the boss of the road.........
Raybimmer
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Fordkoppie said:
Was there not a 730i with the 3 litre M60 , same motor as the e34 530i , early e32 model ?
Why not go for a e39 97-99 540i for about R80K , yes there are dogs available for peanuts ....those are for monkeys :fencelook:
The e34 540i 6-speed manual with the M60B40 motor ....the car has a 90 litre petrol tank......it needs it . I get about 9.5 km/litre on the road and about 6.5 in town .
If you go for a later model V8 they are lighter on fuel .
Diesel models are good , on your budget you may not get the best though , depends on what you want , a 330d is a good buy .
Andy1GP
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skiet said:
+1 Very good real world figures
justcruzin said:
One can fit newer gen injectors, but it's costly time consuming and will only really pay off if you keep the car for a couple of years. Also takes some research to really get into it.
justcruzin said:
Some 320d's have turbo issues, and a word of advice don't buy form dealers. They will sell you a 320d and it WILL be clocked back and you'll be led to believe the car will run trouble free for many miles and it won't.
Now, you are right in saying the 5 and 7 series makes you feel like king of the road. As you rightfully will be :rollsmile: But, I may get flamed, I won't recommend one for you. Not as a daily / only car at least.
The newer ones, '97 onward e39's with the M62 motors (4.4 liter) have water cooled alternators, very weird and also epically pricey to fix / replace. And they're not really faster or more powerful than the older M60 (4 liter) motors, found on the 96 and older 5 series.
I would strongly recommend a 330i if you can find a decent enough one in that price range. Seriously. As jy wil afshow is daai kar die baas.
So much torque. From 1000rpm the car pulls like a train. Please do yourself a favour and drive one. It's not a small car by any means. It feels much more sporty in every driving scenario than a 5 or 7.
I've owned a 540i and a 330i and will have a 330i any day again. Consumption is much better, services cheaper, car is faster etc... And you can find a manual!
However there is something special about owning a V8. You feel like like mafia on the road. And not much beats that. :thumbs:
My vote 330i. Or if you can live with a diesel go 330d. Even if it's the 5spd manual. Still a great car! You can pick up a nice 2002 330d 5spd manual for about R75k.
Dopi
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The prefacelift 320d's (1999-2001) did not have to much turbo problems, was more the 2001 to late 2003 models with big turbo problems. I get about 7.2l/100km on my prefacelift 320d and I don't drive slow. You can get a decent one for about R60 000 and a 2004 for R80 000 if you buy private
Budleigh
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With my auto 540i (M60, not terribly efficient automatic) I get 14-15l per hundred in town, driven judiciously but not in a saintly fashion. It seems to be more efficient the faster you go, on the open road - usually see 8-9l per hundred if kept below 120, but you feel like you're going to fall asleep, and the car sounds like it will too. With cruise on at 135, it averages 10,9l per hundred.
An E39 540i would be better because it's more aerodynamic/more efficient in general. A 740i would, correspondingly, be worse.
A 330i is a nice compromise - lots of performance while being quite light on fuel relative to what it is. If, like me, you don't like the 3 series that much, then an E39 530i is a decent bet - they're facelift models, so relatively recent, are generally more reliable/have less niggles than the V8, and handle better because they have rack&pinion steering. Also, they're less likely to have been thrashed than a 330i will have been, because their ownership profile is different.
An E39 540i would be better because it's more aerodynamic/more efficient in general. A 740i would, correspondingly, be worse.
A 330i is a nice compromise - lots of performance while being quite light on fuel relative to what it is. If, like me, you don't like the 3 series that much, then an E39 530i is a decent bet - they're facelift models, so relatively recent, are generally more reliable/have less niggles than the V8, and handle better because they have rack&pinion steering. Also, they're less likely to have been thrashed than a 330i will have been, because their ownership profile is different.
justcruzin
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Andy1GP said:
good read!!!!!
what do 330i go for? around 2000-2002 model? they come in 4door??
Andy1GP said:
diesel is all nice and sheet.. but fokit......what happens when on a sunday afternoon, at inlaws.....road lekker moist......bietjie af show...but now u got a diesel :nonono:
nothing better than a bm sound in cutout
Budleigh said:
what year model is the e39?
so its 530 or 330... 330 might be worn.....like when i bought my 200is.... i knew it was treked thru its gat.... but 7 years later and 402800km...she still kapping aaaan
i guess its all down to how to manage the engine.......
Fordkoppie
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Raybimmer said:
Yes, but we never got those in SA.
We only got the 740i with the M60B40, M62B44 and M62TUB44 and then the 735i with the M62TUB35 later on.
Fordkoppie
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Well I was only referring to the e38 :fishwack:
If you want to include the engine lineup from the e32, then we can start digging up the specs all the way back to the e3 :tease:
If you want to include the engine lineup from the e32, then we can start digging up the specs all the way back to the e3 :tease:
Andy1GP
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justcruzin said:so its 530 or 330... 330 might be worn.....like when i bought my 200is.... i knew it was treked thru its gat.... but 7 years later and 402800km...she still kapping aaaan
i guess its all down to how to manage the engine.......
That's why you need to go do propper car shopping. Don't rush it. Jy sal n 330i kry wat nie verkrag is nie. (You'll find a 330i that hasn't been raped)
In fact I found an old shabby 2001 330i for under R60k. It was quite a mess. But when I got in and turned the key, that straight 6 purred alive without a puff of smoke and she still pulled like a train. It was an ugly duckling with lots of kick, that wanted to be loved back to beauty.
Don't settle on the first one you find. I know it's hard, but you'll know when you've found the one. And it's going to be a great feeling! :joy:
