discussion 2026 BMW iX3 (NA5) Neue Klasse Debut

tamgoem

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Ahhhh BMW owners. Always forgetting their past.

I can see exactly where this thing gets it's inspiration from, hell it is even in the Name.
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nyway to the model at hand. Lets go with my rule of thumb.

1. It's German
2. It's Electric

It is going to be a null starter for me as i only buy used appliances and Germans and part pricing and their general lack of shall we say cost effective repairs mean nope nope nope.
 

Quick///M

Well-known member
I get the need for BMW to keep pushing boundaries - particularly for the new customers, in light of the Chinese brands that are taking away market share from the traditional European brands. As an example, look at how Merc is falling and failing... As an "enthusiast' the iX3 has zero appeal to me. BUT if it pays the bills to keep BMW going and for them to build proper bespoke ///M cars (M2, M3, M4, etc), then by all means, let then continue to build this crap to keep funding the cars that I really like.

I recently spend some time poking around in a new X3 - whilst the tech and cool ambient lighting, etc, might appeal to new buyers (and hopefully sell well), I was shocked at the amount of cheap plastics in the interior. Honestly, if you blindfolded someone and asked them to just feel the door handle on a new Corolla versus new X3, the Corolla would feel more premium. But I guess the cool features are party tricks that will appeal to new buyers - and that's perfectly fine as long as it keeps BMW afloat as a brand that survives and keeps the niche enthusiast segment happy as well.
One of the main reasons I skipped the X3 and went straight for the iX40 was the interior. The new X3 just didn’t feel like much of a step up from the previous generation, and for me that mattered more than the flashy tech features aimed at catching attention. Interestingly, after getting the iX40 I’ve noticed a wave of new X3s on the road. Credit where it’s due, BMW knows how to package finance deals in a way that keeps customers coming back.

On a slightly different note, I recently visited a Mercedes dealership with my father inlaw to look at their EV lineup. I was surprised to see that their demo and used EVs came with virtually no perks. With BMW, certain deals include the first year of insurance (underwritten by Santam and arranged through a broker, paid upfront by BMW), a R10 000 charging card, and a wall box charger (7/11/22 kW depending on the configuration and vehicle capability). On top of that, I often charge my EV at Midrand where I also get complimentary car washes when I’m in the area.

I’m pretty sure BMW is going through a phase with its design language, but I can’t deny their offerings are still compelling, especially with the way they keep customers tied into the finance loop 😂.



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AceRally

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I would love for THIS to be real though...

But unfortunately, because this can be viewed without causing damage to your eyes BMW probably won't go this route.

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Talking of design I saw a parked 8 series coupe in black and I was stunned, it was an M850i Xdrive, what a looker.
 
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Mytfine

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BMW sales figures (as well as merc/audi etc) all seem to indicate that BMW has gotten the last 10 or so yrs of strategy catastrophically wrong. Mainstream consumers are shopping elsewhere given the ramp up in prices don't match salary increases (and this isn't a solely Safrican issue - globally the middle class is much more squeezed today than 30/40yrs back). Enthusiasts don't care for the screens and the weight and the tech and also can't justify the enormous costs of the new cars - particularly given they've generally been depreciation dogs?

Design is subjective, but honestly, when's the last time BMW came out with a normal car (say under R2m cost) that was universally (or at least near it) loved? OG M2/4?


Growing up in the 80s and early 90's my parents were considered middle class for our racial class anyway, but a new 3 or 5 series was out of the budget. Mid to top spec toyota's, Fords and Mazdas were the order of the day and loved his brand new cars.

It was only his hate of front wheel drive that that that saw a used 325i in the driveway in the early 90's.

So affordability wise I think the market has shifted back to those days when premium brands sold in small numbers.
 

TBP88

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Growing up in the 80s and early 90's my parents were considered middle class for our racial class anyway, but a new 3 or 5 series was out of the budget. Mid to top spec toyota's, Fords and Mazdas were the order of the day and loved his brand new cars.

It was only his hate of front wheel drive that that that saw a used 325i in the driveway in the early 90's.

So affordability wise I think the market has shifted back to those days when premium brands sold in small numbers.
Proportion of people spending more money on rent/housing today has changed the picture. The traditional logic was always that a 3er was affordable for middle managers or "analyst" level types. Today unless you're fortunate or doing well on a side hustle of some form that just isn't the case. A new 3er is ~1m+ with decent spec and a nice engine. Meanwhile entry level jobs have only just about kept up with inflation while true CoL is miles higher (mostly from middle class housing costs).
 

TurboLlew

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Guys, it’s actually worse than we think. Entry-level jobs for qualified graduates today are paying, in rand terms, what I earned as a grad more than 20 years ago. Adjusted for real value, that’s about three times less than what I started on (and what I earned back then was already peanuts). The trope of 'lighties are earning too much these days' or 'I only earned xxx when I started' just don't hold water.

When I got my first apartment in Morningside, rent was R2,800 a month - roughly R8K in today’s money. You can indeed get one of these apartments today for R8-10K. If graduate salaries had tracked with inflation, young people today could still afford that kind of apartment, buy a decent car (Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, even a used German), and still have some breathing room. Independence was possible. Now? Most can’t move out without major help, and those who do are spending 60%+ of their income on rent just to share a space. Even if you DO rise through the ranks, these days a middle manager having a 3 series actually requires sacrifice of some sort...

What’s even more alarming is how long people stay stuck in these entry-level roles. I see graduates still in them (or in 'created' very low tier, low paying permanent roles) into their 30s. There was a time when it was “up or out.” and by that it was 6-12 months. MAYBE 24 months if it was a rotational programme at a bank or one of the big FMCG places. Nobody was a 'career grad'. Now companies are perfectly content keeping cheap, trained labour indefinitely and those people can’t easily find alternatives. One reason is simply that you or I sitting in a business or company doesn't want to hire someone who seemingly has no ambition, no talent and no experience (which is the story this tells hiring managers, whether really true or not). There are also so many unemployed or partially employed people out there that people are willing to take what they can get... 'half loaf being better than none'... and as such, it isn't really easy to 'care' enough to dig deeper.

I don’t want to sound like the stereotypical older person shaking a fist at the sky: young people really are in a worse position and MUCH worse. As tough as millennials had it, we at least had some resilience built in and a small head start. We could ride the waves if we had a boat and a bit of luck. Today’s youth were basically born in the riptide without a boat, and often without even clothes on (especially in South Africa). I am not excusing or minimising many of the other factors at play in why this is the case, but it's hard to get people to care or be motivated when they can't see a path to getting a better life or nice things.

The other extreme of young people we see in the localhoons vids/broccoli crowd etc are not representative of the reality for most. As with everything on social media it is just a concentration that we happen to see and make assumptions about in terms of how prevalent or normal this is. Only so many cars can be acquired by the daddy's cash/trust fund crowd and thus there will be fewer and fewer nice cars in the used market as well (which we have been seeing for years now).

Side hustles, which used to feel like creative outlets, now look more like survival mechanisms. Everyone is detailing cars, doing photography, or flipping imports from AliExpress and Temu. My DMs are full of offers: latest being events that use your car to draw crowds while others pay to attend, “crews” and “cartels” that position you without your consent, endless products from crystals and candles to creams and kitchen stuff. I’ve tried to support where I can, but at some point it feels like charity with extra steps and these are not sustainable or profitable (or even enjoyable) 'businesses'... even worse when the same crap delivered to your door from Temu costs half... but I digress. The truth is, side hustles can’t replace real jobs or sustainable businesses.

I know we say that this is happening everywhere and that is true, but South Africa has its own unique challenges layered on top of all this, and I think many of us are living in varying degrees of denial about how serious the economic reality really is.
 

m0lt3n

Active member
so much negativity just for the sake of negativity!

This iX3 definitely looks tons better than the current X3. Most BMW designs need to grow on you, but proportions look good, its generally accepted well also. I am biased as I was hyped to see this before but I love it.

Other than that, maybe check some reviews, its got an upgraded interior to the current X3, its a new car and the most important release from BMW in a long time and they certainly delivered. Reviews really are positive. Range is good, performance is good, some new innovations, looks good, practical. Even said to be cheaper than the outgoing model. This car will do well, its a very impressive offering
 
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