Who actually buys these High Mile E92 M3's

[pimpassdaddy]

I agree 100%... Phillip.

Nice discussion guys.


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[Philip Foglar]

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[Carbon]

Too me piece of mind is far more important, than worrying about depreciation.

Lol, you are funny. Trying to sound objective in your posts and then ending it off with the most subjective statement possible. So you are happy to lose money, as long as you don't know about it?

In all probabilty, a higher mileage vehicle will have a higher propensity to give trouble than a lower mileage one. Whether you choose to observe or apply a science, that will forever remain a fact.

You have no idea about the initial outlay vs maintenance cost, and still have strong opinions with no actual insight. BTW, engine wear is a function of engine speed over time and lubricating conditions, not distance traveled. I would not bet anything on mileage as it can be accumulated in MANY different ways. Therefore, NOT a fact.

There are just too many variables constituting to wear to just boil it down to mileage alone. A car like ASH's will wear much quicker than a car driven more often at lower engine speeds. (no offense ASH) But ASH's car will still have the rough leather on the steering wheel.

The bottom line is, you HAVE TO inspect a car when you buy second hand, and most people don't know how, so to them I say, buy new. To the rest of the people willing to learn about cars, buy second hand, if done right you will save money every time.

I've personally never kept a personal car beyond 115000km.

I've owned a vehicle that was well past the 100 000km mark, closer to 200 000km and stupid things would start.

PS. I had no problem with any of your posts until you posted your "fact". It is your right and privilege you buy and say what you want. I'm just clearing up some confusion.

 

[osiris]

There is allot of reading here and I got to page two and stopped and all I want to say is that at the end of the day a car is a machine, a machine can last a life time if you look after it and make sure its properly lubricated with good quality oils etc etc. Sure you will need to replace wear and tear items and sensors will go here and there, but that is what comes with owning a car.
and 81k is not high mileage, to say that is high mileage is ludacris.

What I will say is that at 100k on my 525, it cost me a bit of money to fix things cause a whole bunch of wear and tear items went, water pump, thermostat housing, radiator bottle got hair line cracks, power steering pressure hoses, power steering rack, belts, pullys etc but once those are all replaced then car was good as new and will probably go for a long time again, the new owner of my car should be very happy as that car is sorted for another 100k easy, my friends E46 325ci hit the same mileage and the EXACT same things went on his car except for the power steering rack, all sorted now and the car is good as new.

Wear and tear items will always go, dont not buy a car because you might have to replace a water pump down the line, thats a silly mentality and if that is your mentality then don't buy a second hand car, just stick to buying brand new cars and get ripped off to the max!

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[Kishore]

There is allot of reading here and I got to page two and stopped and all I want to say is that at the end of the day a car is a machine, a machine can last a life time if you look after it and make sure its properly lubricated with good quality oils etc etc. Sure you will need to replace wear and tear items and sensors will go here and there, but that is what comes with owning a car.
and 81k is not high mileage, to say that is high mileage is ludacris.

What I will say is that at 100k on my 525, it cost me a bit of money to fix things cause a whole bunch of wear and tear items went, water pump, thermostat housing, radiator bottle got hair line cracks, power steering pressure hoses, power steering rack, belts, pullys etc but once those are all replaced then car was good as new and will probably go for a long time again, the new owner of my car should be very happy as that car is sorted for another 100k easy, my friends E46 325ci hit the same mileage and the EXACT same things went on his car except for the power steering rack, all sorted now and the car is good as new.

Wear and tear items will always go, dont not buy a car because you might have to replace a water pump down the line, thats a silly mentality and if that is your mentality then don't buy a second hand car, just stick to buying brand new cars and get ripped off to the max!

Thats my 02c

I totally agree with you on this one. There has been a mis conception put out there and if someones hears of a bm with high mileage, first impressions is , OH NO STAY AWAY. Sure in certain cases this is the case but to be fair its all about how the vehicle has been maintained and cared for. I drive a fairly new E60 but my other car is 03 330D Auto with 201000km on the clock. Just took it for a maintenance service to replace wear and tear parts tell u what, its runs as a new car. The auto box as many complain about, is smooth and butter and never been opened, the turbo was replaced in 2007 and all suspensions stuff replaced. The engine has never given issues(confirmed with original owner) and the car never takes water or oil so yes there are cases out there but then again there are the odd ones in every bunch even a brand new car can trouble(motorplan) . I owned a 2002 audi a4 1.8 t and sold it with 250000km on clock and the new owner is now on 280000km and not an inch of problem.

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[m0lt3n]

I would like to see a whole study on this. (nice discussion so far)

I understand both sides of the fence here, my car has 144k on now (bought at 128k km 3 months ago) and I am basically averaging a 1000km a week. So I have to decide where will I sell it? just before the second magic barrier of 200k km?

But then you know your car is sorted, its just got high mileage so is it worth it selling it... but wait till it has 250k km on and you will have to give it away for free.

I think in the end it depends on the person doing the buying...is he willing to spend R5 or 10k on his car extra per 6 months or rather lose 10k per month in depreciation? I love my BMW's but I think from my finances point of view I will have to stick to second hand-highish mileage and envy the new BMW's on the road

 

[Mr.k]

i know u guys are talking about "performance" cars , but my 318is has 220000km on it ,and still nothing major has gone wrong, just the usual small things, disks clutch radiator bottle cam cover gasket O2 and maf sensor and a crack on the manifold, thats literally it mechanically. So im for buying slightly high mileage , as long as it has been taken car of

 

[922-ZN]

Personally I think with high mileage everything besides the drivetrain will start showing its age, interior suspensions ect