WHAT MAKE OFF FUEL IS BETTER

herr bmw

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was just wondering what make of fuel(shell,bp,etc)was best for 323?or doesnt it really matter?

vw told me for tdi only total or sasol.
the rest caused turbo failure.
 

Ralf*

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if you are refering to diesel fuel, then go for the one with the lowest "PPM", I believe the average is 500ppm, whilst TOTAL is 50ppm, just means that there is a lot less "gunk" to clog up injectors and pumps.

Turbo's don't fail because of fuel, but rather due to oil lubrication
 

P1000

///Member
well, 500ppm diesel is good for injectors and pumps, will decrease fuel consumption a bit, but other than that they are good. The only thing that suffers is the diesel particulate filter in the exhaust.

 

herr bmw

///Member
yep thats what happened on my g5 tdi and was starting to happen again.thats why i bought a 323i petrol motor.
was just wondering if a certain brand was better
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
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Dude, I've been using just Sasol 95 unleaded. Tried BP, Caltex, and Shell, and Shell was ok, just that they don't have a good enough network of pumps.
The BP made my car pre-egnite, the Caltex was ok, but also not enough pumps across Pretoria, so thats the main reason I stick to Sasol.
Also did you see what pumps are at Kyalami?? Sasol of course :)
 

frikkieh

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herr bmw said:
yep thats what happened on my g5 tdi and was starting to happen again.thats why i bought a 323i petrol motor.
was just wondering if a certain brand was better

Nice meeting you. I would say there are different opinions, especially about Sasol .
My car is 10 ½ years old and I bought it with 145 000km on the clock. Today it’s at 254 000km and I am really not picky when re-fueling.
I prefer 95 octane, if available.
I must add that I have put in more Engen product in the last 6 years of ownership for my 323i, just because these fuel stations are strategically placed. But to me it really does not matter which brand as long as there are volumes sold per day: I would be reluctant to fill up from a station at “Gat sonder water” – it can happen that the fuel in the stations reservoir is stale. That is why I plan more or less where to re-fuel when undertaking longer trips – e.g. Cape Town.
 

Sankekur

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I have never really noticed any difference between the different brands of fuel, the only prefrence I have is to go for 95 and not because I found it to be better, frankly I can't find any difference between 93 and 95, apart from the price of course :). I only use 95 because it is recommended.
 

calypso

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The Altech Porsche Cup guys swear on Sasol. I use it too and think it may be abit better, but probably all placebo. As long as the fuel is nice and fresh I'm sure you fine.
 

frikkieh

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calypso said:
The Altech Porsche Cup guys swear on Sasol. I use it too and think it may be abit better, but probably all placebo. As long as the fuel is nice and fresh I'm sure you fine.

Never taste it :)
 

P1000

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Sankekur said:
I have never really noticed any difference between the different brands of fuel, the only prefrence I have is to go for 95 and not because I found it to be better, frankly I can't find any difference between 93 and 95, apart from the price of course :). I only use 95 because it is recommended.

You live at the reef. There is no reason to pay more for 95. Your car's effective compression ratio is so low up here, 93 is almost too much...
 

MikeR

Well-known member
ok - Sasol an Total :thumb: 50ppm for Diesel is the best there have been many tests, I too have spoken to one of the techs from VW Uitenhage who suggest also they are the 2 top Diesels.
I have an someone working for Caltex who tells me that most of the Brands / Fuel stations put their own additives in the Fuels except for Shell who very closely monitor all their service stations, and the 95 they have is spot on and recommended by all the vehicle manufacturers, this is coming from the competition.
But what ever rocks your boat.
 

rick540

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I remember reading it's all the same base fuel with the manufacturers additives added once it's in the tanker ready to be delivered.

I use BP all the time for no particular reason other than there's a few stations close by. Last week I filled up with Engen and got an extra 75Km to the tank, so maybe BP isn't so good.

I think I'l try a full tank of each brand over the next few weeks and report findings here.
 

Coisman

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Like I said, I liked Shell 95 to, but the closest pump to me is like 10km away, where as there are 3 Sasol garages within 3km from my house, and on my way to/from work.
 

netercol

New member
if you are refering to diesel fuel, then go for the one with the lowest "PPM", I believe the average is 500ppm, whilst TOTAL is 50ppm, just means that there is a lot less "gunk" to clog up injectors and pumps.
there definitely isnt more "gunk" in 500ppm , it just has more sulphur than 50ppm. i use it almost exclusively in my diesel since our cars have no particulate filters, and mine has been decatted, so virtually no point to using 50ppm for me.

 

rick540

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netercol said:
if you are refering to diesel fuel, then go for the one with the lowest "PPM", I believe the average is 500ppm, whilst TOTAL is 50ppm, just means that there is a lot less "gunk" to clog up injectors and pumps.
there definitely isnt more "gunk" in 500ppm , it just has more sulphur than 50ppm. i use it almost exclusively in my diesel since our cars have no particulate filters, and mine has been decatted, so virtually no point to using 50ppm for me.

Well the sulphur turns to sulfuric acid byproduct in the oil. Do either long trips, or change the oil regulalrly if using 500ppm

 

netercol

New member
Well the sulphur turns to sulfuric acid byproduct in the oil. Do either long trips, or change the oil regulalrly if using 500ppm

agreed, changing oil regular goes without saying on a modern diesel..
 

akash

Well-known member
I noticed a difference when using Shell V Power in my 323i, car feels like it pulls better.:dunno:
 
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