Ok sorry then, I took offence to being called dishonest & retaliated by attacking you. I was actually being honest & have the proof from years ago when I showed the diff gained 8 metres on my E46 M3. Which is between 0.1 to 0.2 seconds. Thinks have changes a lot since those days & I believe Ary's car lost ground with the diff on the standing starts. That is my opinion & I am not being dishonest.
It's possible I said the diff may gain up to 0.3 to 0.4 back in the day, but I was young & naive then. The thrust & acceleration from the driver's seat is so much more pleasurable that it "feels" a whole lot faster than it is. Standing starts even things like gearing out. Each car starts out from zero in 1st gear. The torque muplication of the diff tends to even out as 1st gear both cars multiply loads of torque to the ground & traction is the limiting factor. But I still feel a diff can gain up to a tenth on the standing but it depends entirely on the car. Each car is different.
Here's some comments on my thread about the 4.1 & some of these guys had the diff:
"I am very surprised to see only a marginal improvement in 1/4 mile times
i dont want to be a bubble-burster, but this data demonstrates to me that it's definitely not worth it to get a 4.1 diff.
Great post! Now I certainly won't be getting a 4.10 diff. What you gain between 1st and 2nd gear seems minimal.
Can someone just confirm if Im getting this right, basically the real gains are minimal in performance, but it feels like a lot more, so it s worth it..
Cause the graphs ^^ make the difference look puny, but youre saying I put em in, the butt dyno will make me pleased, if so thats enough Ill buy the dang things..
so for the minimal gains from what i'm understand a lot of people do it for the "peppy feel"
I thought the difference would be wider compared to stock gearing.
As the data shows, at least to me and with my experience, a strait line yields very little improvement. If they were in fact superior, BMW would have put these in from the factory.
Bottom line, it makes the car more fun and flexible in traffic,"
It's possible I said the diff may gain up to 0.3 to 0.4 back in the day, but I was young & naive then. The thrust & acceleration from the driver's seat is so much more pleasurable that it "feels" a whole lot faster than it is. Standing starts even things like gearing out. Each car starts out from zero in 1st gear. The torque muplication of the diff tends to even out as 1st gear both cars multiply loads of torque to the ground & traction is the limiting factor. But I still feel a diff can gain up to a tenth on the standing but it depends entirely on the car. Each car is different.
Here's some comments on my thread about the 4.1 & some of these guys had the diff:
"I am very surprised to see only a marginal improvement in 1/4 mile times
i dont want to be a bubble-burster, but this data demonstrates to me that it's definitely not worth it to get a 4.1 diff.
Great post! Now I certainly won't be getting a 4.10 diff. What you gain between 1st and 2nd gear seems minimal.
Can someone just confirm if Im getting this right, basically the real gains are minimal in performance, but it feels like a lot more, so it s worth it..
Cause the graphs ^^ make the difference look puny, but youre saying I put em in, the butt dyno will make me pleased, if so thats enough Ill buy the dang things..
so for the minimal gains from what i'm understand a lot of people do it for the "peppy feel"
I thought the difference would be wider compared to stock gearing.
As the data shows, at least to me and with my experience, a strait line yields very little improvement. If they were in fact superior, BMW would have put these in from the factory.
Bottom line, it makes the car more fun and flexible in traffic,"
