Water/Methanol Support Thread, South Africa

moranor@axis

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thanks for the post twins :)

the octane/cooling effect is a very good point to bring up and a dont believe it has been discussed on the forum...

the reason i asked my question is that it may be possible to get the same results by running a much safer 50% or less meth mix if you adjust the injection rate :) while getting more cooling...

as you know once the right octane level is reached no more performance will be gained by adding more octane... so you my be running an unnecessary risk in making a stronger meth mix...
 

Twinz

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moranor@axis said:
as you know once the right octane level is reached no more performance will be gained by adding more octane... so you my be running an unnecessary risk in making a stronger meth mix...

For sure. Through datalogging, one should be able to find this ideal balance. :thumbs:
 

moranor@axis

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Twinz said:
moranor@axis said:
as you know once the right octane level is reached no more performance will be gained by adding more octane... so you my be running an unnecessary risk in making a stronger meth mix...

For sure. Through datalogging, one should be able to find this ideal balance. :thumbs:

next phase of your project :rollsmile:
 

DES7

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Lekker write up! The boost and controller setup in the car looks tops, is that in the ash tray bin?
 

Twinz

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Was bored and decided to do a quick video of the water/meth turbulence that happens in the boot during varied driving.

A couple of lessons:
1. Tank must be properly mounted to withstand the hectic movement in the boot. The squeaks you hear come from the nitrous bottles on the left hand side...:=):
2. If the water/meth level becomes too low due to the constant sloshing the low level float switch may pick-up air and communicate wrong readings to the flow sensor.
3. If tank is not properly closed it will leak all over your boot carpet.
:ty:

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moranor@axis

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damn looks like you need some baffles in there :) wonder if that foam they use in fuel tanks will work with meth?
 

Twinz

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The tank has a baffle section, which you can only see when looking at the right side of the tank.
But still an interesting video showing the forces at work. :thumbs:
 

Kish2604

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I am giving this thread a kick start again... I am looking for someone to install my coolingmist setup for me in Durban....

Any suggestions? Pm please...
 

Dhp507

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A good thread to bump.................

I have Devils Own progressive installed on 04 320d . I have a DO3 Nozzle 189 ml/min on the charge pipe.

Got my start point for injection set at 9 psi and going 100% at 19 psi on the controller

Currently only running water at the moment

Is this considered too early ?

On the vw 1.9 tdi's the guys start at 12 psi and go to max 22psi
 

gavsadler

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Agreed - also been wanting to bump this thread for a bit.

Are we allowed to debate different brands of meth kits available? Are there any pros / cons for the different kits?

I've got my eyes on an AEM V2 progressive kit. What I like about this kit are the following:
> level sensor integrated into the bottle
> check valve integrated with the nozzles
> output signal when the bottle reaches a low level, or if there is a pump malfunction


Thoughts / comments?
 

gavsadler

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Thanks for that link, I recall reading that article a good few months ago.

Some other questions I have off the top of my head for meth users:

1) what about using the windscreen washer bottle? I see you can just plumb into the bottle, and retain the washer function as well (some windscreen cleaners include methanol in them too).

2) at what boost level are your systems setup for to begin injecting meth?

3) What size nozzle? My plan is to inject a 50:50 mix of water & meth (for safety reasons, and to get the benefits of both liquids.

Thanks
 

Dhp507

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Im using the washer bottle though.only using water

Nozzle size relates to 1ml per min for every hp your car will produce eg im using 189ml /min so i should exceed that 189hp.....fly power
 

gavsadler

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Thread bump....

So I took the plunge and decided to buy a kit for my Ute. I purchased the AEM V2 progressive kit.

Been installing over the past few weeks, and more recently been doing testing of the install using distilled water.

I've got a leak at the fitting where it comes out of the pump. During the install, I took all the necessary precautions, cutting the line with a new razor blade, and making sure the line goes into the fitting square. Yet it is still dripping at this point (I haven't even connected the nozzle at the other end so there isn't even pressure in the line).

Is there any recommended way to fix leaks like this? I did some reading online, some guys say try thread tape, heat shrink, silicone, grease.

Thanks.
 

gavsadler

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Yes, the push fitting where the nylon pipe goes into.

It only seems to leak after the pump has been operating (from my testing). So not sure if it's the vibrations which cause a bit of a leak?

Like I say, I'm sure it will be worse once the nozzle is connected and there is pressure in the line.
 
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