The General's F13 M6 Coupe

[General.Massacre]

No updates here seeing the car is for sale on Marketplace?

Hi man.

Little bits to update, I've dropped the BMW LL01 5w30 oil, and replaced it under recommendation with a thicker Mineral Oil again to see if it helps with the smoking.
This was done on Saturday, and i need to about 1000km on the mineral oil, I've so far done about 220km as of last night.

Its amazing how thin the BMW 5w30 oil is at operating temp, it was literally like water.

The car was better all of Saturday and most of Sunday, however last night saw some smoke again, but giving it time. maybe it needs to still seat fully in the bores, but time will tell. so will continue to put on mileage till whatever happens. i have lost a bit of faith ion the car ill be honest, and it gives me anxiety currently. So i don't know. Lets see what happens.

 

[Pisancho]

Hi man.

Little bits to update, I've dropped the BMW LL01 5w30 oil, and replaced it under recommendation with a thicker Mineral Oil again to see if it helps with the smoking.
This was done on Saturday, and i need to about 1000km on the mineral oil, I've so far done about 220km as of last night.

Its amazing how thin the BMW 5w30 oil is at operating temp, it was literally like water.

The car was better all of Saturday and most of Sunday, however last night saw some smoke again, but giving it time. maybe it needs to still seat fully in the bores, but time will tell. so will continue to put on mileage till whatever happens. i have lost a bit of faith ion the car ill be honest, and it gives me anxiety currently. So i don't know. Lets see what happens.

Isn't a bit of smoke normal? Mine is decatted and during the misfires etc I had they thoroughly checked everything. At night with the right light behind the car i can see a bit of smoke. But it was like that even with the CAT in some 15k km ago. Guess it depends on how much smoke we are talking about. My friends have S55s and they also have a tiny bit of smoke from the exhaust but they are all decatted.

Isn't it better that the oil gets thinner (up to a point) when at operating temp? For the rod bearings etc?

 

[General.Massacre]

Isn't a bit of smoke normal? Mine is decatted and during the misfires etc I had they thoroughly checked everything. At night with the right light behind the car i can see a bit of smoke. But it was like that even with the CAT in some 15k km ago. Guess it depends on how much smoke we are talking about. My friends have S55s and they also have a tiny bit of smoke from the exhaust but they are all decatted.

Isn't it better that the oil gets thinner (up to a point) when at operating temp? For the rod bearings etc?

Ive been decatted since i bought the car as thats how it came. never had even a whisper of smoke previously.

I have read some smoke is normal especially after decat, but what im experiencing is a fair bit of it.

Im just scared after spending what ive spent on this journey, its going to be a continuous spend to try get right... if this oil break in period does not fix the issue. last thing i want is proverbial money pit, the car has been a dream of mine to own, but even i need to realise the limit of whats reasonable, and whats acceptable. As i said, ill give it time. and take it from there.

 

[Teezoh]

Ive been decatted since i bought the car as thats how it came. never had even a whisper of smoke previously.

I have read some smoke is normal especially after decat, but what im experiencing is a fair bit of it.

Im just scared after spending what ive spent on this journey, its going to be a continuous spend to try get right... if this oil break in period does not fix the issue. last thing i want is proverbial money pit, the car has been a dream of mine to own, but even i need to realise the limit of whats reasonable, and whats acceptable. As i said, ill give it time. and take it from there.

Is the rattle still there? Regarding the smoke, is it just constant and how is it under heavier load?

 

[General.Massacre]

Is the rattle still there? Regarding the smoke, is it just constant and how is it under heavier load?

Rattle is indeed there still yes.
the smoke is pretty constant, but on idle its very light, when driving, i cant see any behind me, but thats not to say its not smoking while driving, not enough to be noticeable anyway, but when coming to a stop, even though i dont see it, i can smell it.
The smoke was/is mainly noticeable when i move from drive to reverse and give some load to move into a parking space. which is where i saw it again last night after not seeing it since i put int he new oil.
Perhaps its still early days, and i need to give the oil time. its only been just over 200km. so thats me being hopeful.

 

[NBN]

Can you see what colour is the smoke?

Is Budler going to intervene if the smoking persists ?

 

[General.Massacre]

Can you see what colour is the smoke?

Is Budler going to intervene if the smoking persists ?

yea smoke has a blue tinge to it. and smells of oil.

Im in constant communication with Boetie, so we talking as things progress. he is very helpful so far.

 

[Teezoh]

yea smoke has a blue tinge to it. and smells of oil.

Im in constant communication with Boetie, so we talking as things progress. he is very helpful so far.

I'm sure the kakest feeling now is that they can't just quickly check out the car for you. I've got a 2.7k FlySafair voucher that you can gladly have to get one of them here on a return flight should they want to

 

[NBN]

I'm sure the kakest feeling now is that they can't just quickly check out the car for you. I've got a 2.7k FlySafair voucher that you can gladly have to get one of them here on a return flight should they want to

I dont know you personally bud, but the fact that you made an offer like that makes you a legend in my books

 

[General.Massacre]

I'm sure the kakest feeling now is that they can't just quickly check out the car for you. I've got a 2.7k FlySafair voucher that you can gladly have to get one of them here on a return flight should they want to

Damn bro thats an epic offer thank you man, appreciate that if the need arises to make use of it. what a great gesture man.

 

[Kyle]

yea smoke has a blue tinge to it. and smells of oil.

Im in constant communication with Boetie, so we talking as things progress. he is very helpful so far.

My advice would be to get the car back to Budler (as painful as that is) and let them diagnose and sort it out properly... You don't want to risk causing further issues on a freshly built engine when it could be something relatively simple to fix. Let them do the troubleshooting, as nice as the relationship may be, you don't want the blame game down the line if there's anything seriously wrong with it.

Also, it's going to be a headache trying to sell it privately with the smoking issue present, unless you are willing to accept a very low price.

 

[Pisancho]

My advice would be to get the car back to Budler (as painful as that is) and let them diagnose and sort it out properly... You don't want to risk causing further issues on a freshly built engine when it could be something relatively simple to fix. Let them do the troubleshooting, as nice as the relationship may be, you don't want the blame game down the line if there's anything seriously wrong with it.

Also, it's going to be a headache trying to sell it privately with the smoking issue present, unless you are willing to accept a very low price.

It is crap though. He is in CPT and Budler is in JHB i believe. The whole thing must be a real bummer. If the General was still in JHB it would be so much easier but I guess 2k or so to have the car delivered again isn't much in the grand scheme of things.

 

[General.Massacre]

It is crap though. He is in CPT and Budler is in JHB i believe. The whole thing must be a real bummer. If the General was still in JHB it would be so much easier but I guess 2k or so to have the car delivered again isn't much in the grand scheme of things.

lol definately not 2k to have the car delivered, a truck is closer to 9k

 

[Pisancho]

lol definately not 2k to have the car delivered, a truck is closer to 9k

Damn, I almost bought a car from CPT and they wanted to charge me 2.5k delivery. But I assume that was because it was because they weren't delivering just one vehicle. 9k is crazy.

 

[M3boi]

±R7k seems to be the going rate.

 

[Holiman]

I got a quote from onelogix for 4k.

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[Kyle]

lol definately not 2k to have the car delivered, a truck is closer to 9k

I assume you paid lots of money to Budler for an engine rebuild and you received a car that smokes, surely this cost is for them to absorb? Or am I missing something here?

 

[General.Massacre]

I assume you paid lots of money to Budler for an engine rebuild and you received a car that smokes, surely this cost is for them to absorb? Or am I missing something here?

Yea Budler has said that if it comes to it he will gladly send a truck to have the car collected and get stuck into the car. so thats not a concern. So like i said, he is willing to help, and is communicating with me.

 

[Teezoh]

Honestly, I don’t want to be that guy, but looking at this realistically:

They've already run the car for 600+ km.
Fresh oil has been topped up by both them and you now.

At this point, any post-rebuild burn-off should be done. If you're still getting smoke, something isn't lekke. I highly doubt that running it in more will solve the issue, especially since you can smell oil, meaning it’s burning somewhere. On top of that, the rattle problem is still present.

I've been through a rebuild in the past, years ago, and I know exactly what you mean about the anxiety and losing faith. That feeling doesn’t just go away unless the problem is properly addressed.

Personally, I’d accept the situation for what it is before something goes seriously wrong.

 

[TBP88]

Honestly, I don’t want to be that guy, but looking at this realistically:

They've already run the car for 600+ km.
Fresh oil has been topped up by both them and you now.

At this point, any post-rebuild burn-off should be done. If you're still getting smoke, something isn't lekke. I highly doubt that running it in more will solve the issue, especially since you can smell oil, meaning it’s burning somewhere. On top of that, the rattle problem is still present.

I've been through a rebuild in the past, years ago, and I know exactly what you mean about the anxiety and losing faith. That feeling doesn’t just go away unless the problem is properly addressed.

Personally, I’d accept the situation for what it is before something goes seriously wrong.

Agreed. If they are willing to pick up the tab, send it back. If it was me, and seeing as it seems you have a good relationship with them, I'd say split the cost of getting it there with them perhaps as a show of good faith? But yeah, a few 100km in the car should be going 100s. Not "maybe this will go away we hope" from 1400km away.