Philip Foglar
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Motorplan - all it means is, replace parts to eventually fix a fault, because they are actually not capable of fault-finding! :fencelook:
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Read the WELCOME ALL BMWFANATICS post.
Suspension/Shock Problems?
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Maximus03
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moranor@axis said:
hahaha, the printout of the numbers are still in the car at BMW.
Steering rack was replaced because i was having steering issue problems when turning left at very slow speeds, its like the power steering used to die. They first replaced the front guide supports and the steering problem was still there so then they replaced the steering rack and then the "twisting" issue started. Hence i feel it may have something to do with the alignment or related to the steering rack replacement. I am not a firm believer of co-incidence.
Not sure what is their next plan of action but they are certainly milking the motorplan now(not that i am complaining, lol). :rollsmile:
they really need to double check the front (maybe change front shocks because they expensive to replace out of MP :rollsmile: )
Maximus03
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moranor@axis said:
So, this is what i have been told via emails from BMW.
"We have spoken to technical and following some of their advice, they wanted us to do Wheel alignment again but loaded but still no success. We have no loosened the complete rear subframe and suspension to slacken off the load on the suspensions and then will re do alignment"
"We had loosened the complete rear suspension as well as the subframe as to relieve any strain. Re-torqued and done complete alignment again."
"I can only think the cause being of the fact that yes alignment shows in spec but perhaps after adjustment done the suspension is under strain thus cause the car to be to stiff at the rear not allowing any flexibility for deviations in the road and perhaps also explains why the alignment showed out of spec again after the inspection on Tuesday morning"
How plausible does it sound to you guys?
I say they did not tighten something up front or something was misaligned when they did the rack...
Maximus03
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moranor@axis said:
Yeah i am thinking the same but they feel guilty to tell me that, like i said i am not a firm believer of co-incidence! lol
The explanantion he gives seems to wayward, its as if it got stuck in a position and they loosened to get it out, hahahah, which means it could happen again. I am certian it had something to do with the steering rack replacement. Well if it is indeed sorted out, i scored 2 free shocks!!!:biglol:
im confused how can the numbers return back to similar places between the alignments?
Maximus03
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moranor@axis said:
I have no clue but the car seems fine now, strangely enough.
I still feel they messed something else up and covered up the story possibly.......on the bright side of things, i have new guide supports in the front, new steering rack and 2 new rear shocks! :roflol:
I think they did not do alignment and those sheets are of other cars...
but any case its sorted now and you have some new parts
but any case its sorted now and you have some new parts
Maximus03
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Ok, so something i noticed just now. Not sure how important it is but the driver side of the car is lower(front and back) than the passenger side. I found multiple flat areas and measured the gap between the tyre and wheel arch and the passenger side is more or less 7mm higher, even reversed the car into same spot to change direction but still the same measurements. Does not look right, what do you think?
most bmws have a slight drop on the left... plenty theories as to why...
drivers side is normally a little lower...
Philip Foglar
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This is going to bring the OCD out of most of us getting out rulers and finding flat level surfaces... :fencelook: :rollsmile:
Maximus03
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moranor@axis said:I think they did not do alignment and those sheets are of other cars...
but any case its sorted now and you have some new parts
Ok, so drove the car a bit this weekend and it is still doing the same thing. Taking it to another BMW tomorrow to check alignment there.
I am really confused now......................
I'm sorry to hear this Maximus03, hope your car gets sorted out mate. :sorry:
I have E93 335i with 18" wheels. She started a strange behavior, feeling unbalanced, the ride felt too soft, the wheel turns in response to road minor bumps and I always have to clinch the steering wheel tightly to prevent this. The tail moved a bit and did not give me confidence of pushing her.
I recently spent money on alignment redone, balancing tires and checking all my RIMS at WheelCollisionCenter . This has not solved the problem.
Took it to BMW Northcliff Auto last week for this problem including the EML light issue.
- Loosened and tightened the front suspension
- Torque front suspension
- Wheel Alignment
The car feels fine for now. The handling of this E93 335 is very sensitive tire pressure/balancing/wheel alignment. My previous E92 335i was a breeze. :thumbs:
On EML light problem
- Boost pressure too high
- Pressure converter faulty and replaced
I have E93 335i with 18" wheels. She started a strange behavior, feeling unbalanced, the ride felt too soft, the wheel turns in response to road minor bumps and I always have to clinch the steering wheel tightly to prevent this. The tail moved a bit and did not give me confidence of pushing her.
I recently spent money on alignment redone, balancing tires and checking all my RIMS at WheelCollisionCenter . This has not solved the problem.
Took it to BMW Northcliff Auto last week for this problem including the EML light issue.
- Loosened and tightened the front suspension
- Torque front suspension
- Wheel Alignment
The car feels fine for now. The handling of this E93 335 is very sensitive tire pressure/balancing/wheel alignment. My previous E92 335i was a breeze. :thumbs:
On EML light problem
- Boost pressure too high
- Pressure converter faulty and replaced
Hi all just saw this thread.
Had a similar problem with my car. Sent it in for alignment etc but it didn't help.
Eventually I sent the wheels for straightening and that seems to sort out the problem. Also I found out that if your Wheels/Rims are slightly bent it causes flat spots on the tyres and the tyres need to be changed after the wheels are straightened.
With BMWs I was told they are prone to the wheels getting bent because of the low profile tyres and also because they are run flat. The sidewalls are reinforced and harder therefore they don't absorb much of the impact from the road when hitting a bump/pothole, so the impact is transferred to the wheels. Another thing I noticed is that BMW recomend running different pressure in the front tyres compared to the rear. But when I used the same tyre pressure all round the car felt much better. More stable
Hope it helps
Had a similar problem with my car. Sent it in for alignment etc but it didn't help.
Eventually I sent the wheels for straightening and that seems to sort out the problem. Also I found out that if your Wheels/Rims are slightly bent it causes flat spots on the tyres and the tyres need to be changed after the wheels are straightened.
With BMWs I was told they are prone to the wheels getting bent because of the low profile tyres and also because they are run flat. The sidewalls are reinforced and harder therefore they don't absorb much of the impact from the road when hitting a bump/pothole, so the impact is transferred to the wheels. Another thing I noticed is that BMW recomend running different pressure in the front tyres compared to the rear. But when I used the same tyre pressure all round the car felt much better. More stable
Hope it helps
Maximus03
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Thanks guys, so got the car back just now. Will drive it a bit and check how it behaves plus trying to get an alignment booking at another dealer tomorrow to check if it goes out again.
So work done on the car in the week now is the rear right and left trailing arms. I really do hope this was the problem.
Will keep you guys posted :=):
So work done on the car in the week now is the rear right and left trailing arms. I really do hope this was the problem.
Will keep you guys posted :=):
