Supra 2jz-gte engine in an e36

[Yuvan]

your dismissive response makes it difficult for me to take what you say seriously.

this is not a BMW vs Toyota argument, and the fact that you think it is makes it even more difficult for me to take what you say seriously.

Mission accomplised as you read the post.
Cheers Bud

 

[LPM320]

I would personally never contaminate a BMW with anything toyota. But if somebody held a gun to my head and i was forced to put a jap motor in a bmw, then i would have to say RB26dett FTW!

 

[Reese130]

You cant beat Toyota Power:inlove:

Check it out, 328i turbo vs Supra Turbo

Conclusion : U cant compare the 2 brands.....period!!! The germans are untouchable!!!!!:ty:

anyone can find any car on you tube that will beat a car they want it to.
this video is pointless especially since the supra was running in the 12 sec bracket...
read this and tell me toyota has no racing heritage.. http://www.lmsintl.com/Toyota-racing-development-LMS-virtuallab

just by the way Ferrari would not give Schumacher a contract to race for them again so he moved to Mercedes, i think its pretty clear that he cares about racing and not heritage.

the guys that are putting these engines into beemers clearly love BMWs and thats why they have put the engines into them. they dont put a big sticker on the bonnet that says this car is powered by toyota do they?
so then why do they do it? because not everyone has the all the money that they would like to have. but they would still like the same amount of fun.

i tell you what, i'd feel like a bit of a tit if i spent 200k on car to get the power someone else only spent 50k getting...

I asked to be informed by significant achievments, that is a pointless website....im done with this Toyota VS BMW coz simply you cant compare the 2 brands, the German legend is on a league of its own, together with Merc and Audi, as far as im concerned the only fast Toyota out there is one where the accelerator pedal has jammed!

I do however agree that modding a Beemer is pricy business, original BMW parts is a brand on its own.

As for the Schumacher bit, the only reason why he is racing for Merc is becoz the other teams besides Ferrari objected to him joining ferrari once again as well as the neck injury that he suffered.

Here is bits from Wiki :

During the 2007 season Schumacher acted as Ferrari's advisor and Jean Todt's 'super assistant'....

In 2007, former Ferrari top manager Ross Brawn said that Schumacher was very likely and also happy to continue testing in 2008. Michael Schumacher later explained his role further saying that he would "deal with the development of the car inside Gestione Sportiva" and as part of that "I'd like to drive, but not too often....

The team had suffered a disastrous downturn in the early 1990s, partially as their famous V12 engine was no longer competitive against the smaller, lighter and more fuel efficient V10s of their competitors. Various drivers, notably Alain Prost, had given the vehicles labels such as "truck", "pig", and "accident waiting to happen".[48] The poor performance of the Ferrari pit crews was considered a running joke.[23] At the end of 1995, though the team had improved into a solid competitor, it was still considered inferior to front-running teams such as Benetton and Williams.[49] Schumacher declared the Ferrari 412T good enough to win the Championship....

Do the research and tell me he didnt believe in Ferrari's Heritage to take them to the top!!!

Cheers Gents Later...

Fans have witnessed Toyota victories in races including the Indianapolis 500, the Daytona 24 Hours, the 12 Hours of Sebring, the Baja 1000, the Grand Am Road Racing Series, National Hot Rod Association races, the Championship Auto Racing Team (CART) series and the Pikes Peak Hill Climb where the Toyota Celica still holds the world record.

if you dont think these are significant achievements you have no place commenting on any car related topics... but i think we already knew that by the fact that you thought this was a BMW vs Toyota debate.

your inserts from wiki have no relevance in this topic either, sorry dude open your tunnel vision eyes and see the broader picture.

 

[andrewbuch]

this is to throw a spanner in the works

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[Psymon69]

saturnz is right, its not a BMW vs Toyota argument. its about cost. if money was no object then this thread would never have existed.

 

[sykotic]

sideways, if you wanna put a supra engine in your car, do it. its your car. hell, if you wanna put a 1.3 gold engine and opel stickers, go ahead...
if your looking for good power which is (relatively) cheap.. its a great engine:thumbs:

 

[sidewayz]

sideways, if you wanna put a supra engine in your car, do it. its your car. hell, if you wanna put a 1.3 gold engine and opel stickers, go ahead...
if your looking for good power which is (relatively) cheap.. its a great engine:thumbs:

its a damn good engine, i am kinda considering it but with a bit of work im sure ill get mine there but as i sais its all about the cost but right now im happy with my car

 

[moranor@axis]

how much power you want?

 

[herr bmw]

if its about cost why drive a bmw?

if you could afford a ferrarri or lambo but couldnt afford to maintain it, would you then put in another motor,say honda or bmw in to it?

nothing wrong with toyota or honda,but keep it in the cars it was designed for,you wouldnt put an m3 motor in a conquest would you

 

[sidewayz]

if its about cost why drive a bmw?

if you could afford a ferrarri or lambo but couldnt afford to maintain it, would you then put in another motor,say honda or bmw in to it?

nothing wrong with toyota or honda,but keep it in the cars it was designed for,you wouldnt put an m3 motor in a conquest would you

i drive a bmw because i love it, i love the feeling i love the sound, i love the way it feels on the road. most of the guys on the forum and most of the tuners i know arent very rich people but they love the idea of having a car that can perform and also looks the part. the supra engine pushes out 700hp. as far as i know if you spend R50k on a modding an M3 you will never get 700bhp. ive spent close to 50K on my car so im talking from experience here. so basically what i am trying to say here its a lot of bang for your buck.

I dont see what the fuss is about because when modding a car u put aftermarket part in the engine in anycase so your bmw engine is already 50 percent aftermarket but people dont see a problem with that.

all im saying is not everybody is rich enough to throw 200K into their motor when there is a cheaper way of getting the power.

thats just my opinion people can think what they like.

 

[moranor@axis]

im not sure i would want 700hp thats like 520kw there is no way you going to put that power down 250-350kw is where you want to be for drivablity...

how much does the lexus V8 put out maybe thats a better option...

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just been looking at them and the lexus v8 sux... only puts out about 200kw...

a stock jz1 turbo puts out about 200kw also so you will need to do some work to get more out...

I think you may as well do internals on your car because it will probably work out to about the same as fitting a jz1 and getting 250- 350kw out of it...

im pretty sure a 328i with internals will see 250-350kw...

if you aiming to 500kw then i would consider a jz1...

 

[Psymon69]

lol the argument doesnt work the other way around:rollsmile: but if one is set in the ways of bmw in bmw or toy in toy thats that, both arguments are equally strong, but as long as the passion for cars are there its all good:thumbs:

lexus only put out around 195kw BUT 380NM and in the light body of an E30 its a killer! plus its a light motor (relatively). RB and 2JZ has the weight disadvantage. all this for the low low price of R5500:flyfun:

 

[moranor@axis]

R5500 for the engine but then you still need to fit it and get it working... looks like the going price is 50k for the conversion...

sideways already has a turbo on his car but still has stock internals if internals come to 50k or less it will be worth his while just to do that instead... unless he wants 500kw :rollsmile:

 

[Psymon69]

R5500 for the engine but then you still need to fit it and get it working... looks like the going price is 50k for the conversion...

sideways already has a turbo on his car but still has stock internals if internals come to 50k or less it will be worth his while just to do that instead... unless he wants 500kw :rollsmile:

diy ftw:rollsmile::rollsmile:

 

[moranor@axis]

there will still be other costs involved if you diy like getting it to fit the gearbox and getting the electronics to work...

i dont think diy will get cheaper than 15k for this and there will be teething problems...

 

[herr bmw]

if its about cost why drive a bmw?

if you could afford a ferrarri or lambo but couldnt afford to maintain it, would you then put in another motor,say honda or bmw in to it?

nothing wrong with toyota or honda,but keep it in the cars it was designed for,you wouldnt put an m3 motor in a conquest would you

i drive a bmw because i love it, i love the feeling i love the sound, i love the way it feels on the road. most of the guys on the forum and most of the tuners i know arent very rich people but they love the idea of having a car that can perform and also looks the part. the supra engine pushes out 700hp. as far as i know if you spend R50k on a modding an M3 you will never get 700bhp. ive spent close to 50K on my car so im talking from experience here. so basically what i am trying to say here its a lot of bang for your buck.

I dont see what the fuss is about because when modding a car u put aftermarket part in the engine in anycase so your bmw engine is already 50 percent aftermarket but people dont see a problem with that.

all im saying is not everybody is rich enough to throw 200K into their motor when there is a cheaper way of getting the power.

thats just my opinion people can think what they like.

like you said,you like the sound.ive never heard a toyota motor sound like a bmw

 

[DROP IT - ZN]

Then you never heard a 2jz in an E36 :rollsmile:

if its about cost why drive a bmw?

if you could afford a ferrarri or lambo but couldnt afford to maintain it, would you then put in another motor,say honda or bmw in to it?

nothing wrong with toyota or honda,but keep it in the cars it was designed for,you wouldnt put an m3 motor in a conquest would you

i drive a bmw because i love it, i love the feeling i love the sound, i love the way it feels on the road. most of the guys on the forum and most of the tuners i know arent very rich people but they love the idea of having a car that can perform and also looks the part. the supra engine pushes out 700hp. as far as i know if you spend R50k on a modding an M3 you will never get 700bhp. ive spent close to 50K on my car so im talking from experience here. so basically what i am trying to say here its a lot of bang for your buck.

I dont see what the fuss is about because when modding a car u put aftermarket part in the engine in anycase so your bmw engine is already 50 percent aftermarket but people dont see a problem with that.

all im saying is not everybody is rich enough to throw 200K into their motor when there is a cheaper way of getting the power.

thats just my opinion people can think what they like.

like you said,you like the sound.ive never heard a toyota motor sound like a bmw

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there will still be other costs involved if you diy like getting it to fit the gearbox and getting the electronics to work...

i dont think diy will get cheaper than 15k for this and there will be teething problems...

Integration into the cars ABS and other on board features could be a bitch but...
As for the gearbox an adapter can be purchased off the shelf to fit either BMW Getrag or Toyota 21R gearbox...
The motor also fires up perfect with standalone management units like Dicktator,Go tec,Spit tronics etc...

If your mind works like LZ,Gizmo and a few others here on the forum it should be childs play to have running in no time

 

[andrewbuch]

DO IT ALREADY... AND post some pics & videos & full DIY writeup

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how much power you want?

MOAR

 

[moranor@axis]

Integration into the cars ABS and other on board features could be a bitch but...
As for the gearbox an adapter can be purchased off the shelf to fit either BMW Getrag or Toyota 21R gearbox...
The motor also fires up perfect with standalone management units like Dicktator,Go tec,Spit tronics etc...

If your mind works like LZ,Gizmo and a few others here on the forum it should be childs play to have running in no time

I did not know about the gearbox adapter that is handy
Dicktator is about another 5k im sure will all the odds and ends it will be 15k...

 

[Diablo Jnr]

If I had the money to waste, i would buy and M and put a tazz motor in it...just to piss people off.
We all think BMW's are awsome cars, but that doesn't mean that all the other brands are shit. Give respect when it is due.
If you can spend R50k to get a car that can kill 90% of the cars out there, then why the hell not. BMW's are not perfect, so lets stop pretending its a sacrilege to carry out an engine swop on a BMW. :nonono: