Sports pack ride height

[Gizmo]

All E36 models sit lower on the right side, FACT!! I had to level the car out myself when I installed coil overs to my e36. My e46 also sits 10mm lower on the right side. (just measured in the garage)
As for the e90, Im not sure if it it is still BMW practice to compensate for the driver as I have never measured one.

Sank speaks the truth guys, apologies are in order.

 

[Arbee]

All E36 models sit lower on the right side, FACT!! I had to level the car out myself when I installed coil overs to my e36. My e46 also sits 10mm lower on the right side. (just measured in the garage)
As for the e90, Im not sure if it it is still BMW practice to compensate for the driver as I have never measured one.

Sank speaks the truth guys, apologies are in order.

Maybe your garage floor is the problem? :rollsmile:

Send me the recall letter from BMW? Then i will apologize. If your car does it, i have no proof but there must be something wrong with it. My E46 was level. So was my inlaws E36... So is my E90...

As i mentioned, our E46 330ci was also about 10mm lower on the one side, it was a faulty shock mount. That was the first car i ever saw do that.

 

[JENICH]

All E36 models sit lower on the right side, FACT!! I had to level the car out myself when I installed coil overs to my e36. My e46 also sits 10mm lower on the right side. (just measured in the garage)
As for the e90, Im not sure if it it is still BMW practice to compensate for the driver as I have never measured one.

Sank speaks the truth guys, apologies are in order.

Very interesting Gizmo,
Then wonder why the testing station failed this car.

Would be nice to see a pic of the front and rear when parked on a level surface

 

[Edwinz]

Moranor The fact is if you search hard enough you will find a photo of a buck shagging a dog or some shit.

This does not mean it is standard as Sank said it was. Because BMW Germany (Where the cars are made) says it's level on every single document you can find from a reliable site.

Sank said this is how they are made. Not that this is a problem that everybody is experiencing. I am Not hitting on Sank or anyone.

But As far as I have read on this thread the only proven facts says its level.

I could not give a shit what Johnny from England BMW Club says about his suspension not being level because he probably took it to a random guy for a service and he messed it up. Like The first post said. He FAILED A ROAD WORTHY TEST DUE TO THIS.

IF THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT STANDARD THEN I DON"T KNOW.

And if I can google everything why am I a member then of this Forum?
I Will tell you why, Cause Google will tell you exactly what you want. Not the truth.

So here is something for you can try. GOOGLE BMW LEVEL SUSPENSION and see what you get. I bet you the first or second site you find is a legit BMW site and not a forum.

 

[JENICH]

All E36 models sit lower on the right side, FACT!! I had to level the car out myself when I installed coil overs to my e36. My e46 also sits 10mm lower on the right side. (just measured in the garage)
As for the e90, Im not sure if it it is still BMW practice to compensate for the driver as I have never measured one.

Sank speaks the truth guys, apologies are in order.

Maybe your garage floor is the problem? :rollsmile:

Send me the recall letter from BMW? Then i will apologize. If your car does it, i have no proof but there must be something wrong with it. My E46 was level. So was my inlaws E36... So is my E90...

As i mentioned, our E46 330ci was also about 10mm lower on the one side, it was a faulty shock mount. That was the first car i ever saw do that.

Agree Arbee,
There is something sinister about this cabbie. As I said earlier, could be a shock or engine mounting problem but do not believe the car is supposed to be like that.
If concrete evidence to back this up, then apologies in order.

 

[Edwinz]

No Apologies are in order in FACT.

AS Sank said ALL BMW ARE MADE LIKE THAT.

Never said E36 beemers. Still think that if this was true it will be a huge danger on the roads and thus I don't think BMW will do this.

And another point to be raised then is if this is true the suspension that is higher must be much harder as well. due to body roll. This is not right. Due to the fact that no BMW website says this. If this can be proven then yes I will admit I am wrong. But at least I tried to prove my point and did not say GOOGLE IT.

 

[moranor@axis]

so what there is some mass internet conspiracy where people complain about bmws being lower on one side?

honestly this argument is retarded im not wasting any more of my day on it...

 

[Arbee]

so what there is some mass internet conspiracy where people complain about bmws being lower on one side?

honestly this argument is retarded im not wasting any more of my day on it...

No, you got it wrong... Its lower on the one side because BMW's have a battery, Engine, fuel tank and a heavy driver. :flyfun:

 

[Gizmo]

Ignorance is bliss!
Go park your car on a level surface and measure the distance from the top of your mag to the fender on both sides of the car. Then come tell me the measurements.

Arbee, did you measure your e36 and e46? It may look level but they aren't by 10mm.

 

[Sankekur]

e90 fuel tank:

Not how it is larger on the right than on the left. So more fuel, which means it is heavier.

Now look at any BMW with and inline engine, which way is it slanted? It is always to the right (apart from the M1)
Which means more weight to the right as well.

Now in a LHD car (which a BMW is designed to be) the drivers sits on the left, so they have extra weight on the right, this means that with a driver in the left seat it will again shift the centre of mass to the middle of the car.

Now springs are made of metal which for the most part will undergo elastic deformation, unless a certain force threshold is exceeded then it will undergo plastic deformation (which means it won't return back to its original shape), but there is another condition that also give way to plastic deformation and this is a sub-threshold force applied, but over a long time - like the weight of the car on the springs. So over time the springs will tend to sag and the amount of sag will be dependant on the force on them (higher sub-threshold force will result in more sag than a lower one) so the springs on the heavier side will sag more. Now with more weight on the right hand side plus the added weight of the driver the right side will tend to sag more than the left. The older the car is the more pronounced this will be of course.

 

[Edwinz]

Do people read the posts before they post their post.

No one said that this does not happen to "cars". All that is being said is that BMW does make them like this. And once you can prove that fact then I will apologize.

But in fact I also messed up my suspension on my ST and it was about 20mm lower on the one side. But I never got it like that.

And surely one of the best car manufacturers in the world will not create a car like this. And in my eyes if the batteries and all was making the car heavy on the one side surely they won's raise the car's height but will merely stiffen the suspension. Because having lob sided looking car will not be good for the company or its brand.

 

[Gizmo]

Do people read the posts before they post their post.

No one said that this does not happen to "cars". All that is being said is that BMW does make them like this. And once you can prove that fact then I will apologize.

But in fact I also messed up my suspension on my ST and it was about 20mm lower on the one side. But I never got it like that.

And surely one of the best car manufacturers in the world will not create a car like this. And in my eyes if the batteries and all was making the car heavy on the one side surely they won's raise the car's height but will merely stiffen the suspension. Because having lob sided looking car will not be good for the company or its brand.

You are so misguided....

 

[Jacques24]

I thought BMW has always hammered on the fact that their cars are all 50/50 weight distribution.:fencelook:

I know, that's front and back, I am no fundi, but would the car not be balanced by default left to right as well, just asking

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BTW, my discovery was 15mm lower on the one side, but it's much easier with air suspension, get the right tools and re-calibrate your height, you can drop or increase the hight by 50 mm

 

[Edwinz]

Notice here how they clearly show that there is a 10mm difference:nonono:

O and Gizmo I was so ignorant and misguided that I actually just measured a E46 330d, E90 320i (non- sportpack) and my E90 323i (Sportpack) and they are all level. Both sides exactly the same on all 3 cars.

And do not forget that the thread was about a E90 and not a E46 or E36 what you are basing your ignorance on. Read the post.

Like I said don't measure your E36.

Find me the statement from BMW that states that this is true.

Sank you are not wrong and I agree that surely after the years the weight must have an affect on the suspension, but surely its not released like that.

 

[AshG108]

From all car specs i have read of vehicles, they measure the height of front and back, but not for left and right. maybe we should look at CarMag write-ups as well as i remember they have a lot of measurements involved also during their tests.

FACT is FACT - no vehicle is made for being lower on one side, if your vehicle is lower, then obviously it is age and wear and tear perhaps playing a role. i would believe maybe the E36 (old car), some E46's (older models) could have this, but maybe because of problems as stated above.

but when it comes to the E90's, which are newer models, i think they shouldn't have so much room for the car to drop to one side. i know the E90 sports suspension is hard and rough and not comfy but definitely not lop-sided by default out the factory.

BMW should have a recall in that case, or the cars would end up pulling to the lower side or something would have been picked up by all drivers.

* just checked mine, and it ain't lower on either side. (2008 model E90)

 

[Edwinz]

From all car specs i have read of vehicles, they measure the height of front and back, but not for left and right. maybe we should look at CarMag write-ups as well as i remember they have a lot of measurements involved also during their tests.

FACT is FACT - no vehicle is made for being lower on one side, if your vehicle is lower, then obviously it is age and wear and tear perhaps playing a role. i would believe maybe the E36 (old car), some E46's (older models) could have this, but maybe because of problems as stated above.

but when it comes to the E90's, which are newer models, i think they shouldn't have so much room for the car to drop to one side. i know the E90 sports suspension is hard and rough and not comfy but definitely not lop-sided by default out the factory.

BMW should have a recall in that case, or the cars would end up pulling to the lower side or something would have been picked up by all drivers.

* just check mine, and it ain't lower on either side.

+1000000

 

[AshG108]

Notice here how they clearly show that there is a 10mm difference:nonono:

O and Gizmo I was so ignorant and misguided that I actually just measured a E46 330d, E90 320i (non- sportpack) and my E90 323i (Sportpack) and they are all level. Both sides exactly the same on all 3 cars.

And do not forget that the thread was about a E90 and not a E46 or E36 what you are basing your ignorance on. Read the post.

Like I said don't measure your E36.

Find me the statement from BMW that states that this is true.

Sank you are not wrong and I agree that surely after the years the weight must have an affect on the suspension, but surely its not released like that.

Yep, i saw it...i just googled Photoshop....actually MS Paint....:thumbs:

and i can drop your car to any side, any level...

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so what there is some mass internet conspiracy where people complain about bmws being lower on one side?

honestly this argument is retarded im not wasting any more of my day on it...

Dude - nobody at all asked you to join in this "discussion", or contribute or even bother, you did it by your own will.

so whether you come or go....makes no difference to anyone...

 

[Edwinz]

Ok here is some proof for you.

If the one side is lower then the other surely they should be 2 separate parts and each one should have its own part number as you will not be able to switch them around? Because then the car will be lob sided the wrong way?:blab::nonono:

Well unfortunately it is the same part, both sides are exactly the same. there is no difference as it is the SAME PART.

O and if you don't believe me here is a website we all trust and is in fact international stating the one part. NOT one left side 10mm lower then the right side.

Ignorance is bliss Gizmo. Just too bad you were the one being ignorant and O misguided if that is what you said I am. And do yourself a favor phone your nearest BMW agent and they will confirm this fact as JSN and Boksburg just did for me.

And this in fact is not retarded as a fellow member of this forum needed our help and you were just rambling on about who knows what and not giving advice or anything.

This is BMWFANATICS.CO.ZA Not EGOHUNTERS&BLABBERS.COM.

This is where I come for help, advice and in fact an awesome time. This site makes my day better. As there is a lot of stuff that I didn't know but can find out from these members. And now you have found out something 2.

The suspension on a BMW is the same both sided as it is the exact same part. And if there is going to be some smart ass comment about this then logic should be your next thread.

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So Orsim1. This shows that there is something wrong and I would consider getting it checked out because failing a road worthy because of it can be serious.

And sorry about the drama and :blab:. But at least you now know that this is not normal. Especially for an E90.

:thumbs:

 

[Gizmo]

Ok so we have established that the e90 doesn't have the ride height difference like the e36 and e46. The driver's weight compensation is built into the fuel tank.
What you guys are failing to realise is that when you sit in your driver's seat the suspension will drop more on the driver's side than the passenger side.
BMW in Germany (LHD) designed the car so when the driver is sitting in the driver's seat the car is perfectly level to the ground, ie the suspension is now level. FACT!!!

BMW won't make new tooling for weight balance just for RHD models as it is too small a market compared to LHD cars. BMW did however make thicker spring pads for E36 & E46 RHD model's drivers side suspension to level it out. However I have never seen them on any customer's cars.

If BMW were so stressed about weight balance on RHD E90's then the battery would be on the left and the fuel tank would be a mirror image of the one posted.

 

[AshG108]

oh guys, to be honest, i think i have figured there could be confusion with Sank's theory.

Because he speaks of compensation for the driver, i know some cars compensate the the driver area to be larger, height and and width wise, jsut by a little but that is in the cabin and not the suspension though?

okay, thats my retarded additions, good luck to OP and hope the car gets sorted out buddy.:thumbs: