runflats, replacements?

[darren]

Howsit guys,

what are you doing when buying new tyres? my rears are nearly done, 255/40/17, do you bite the bullet and pay R3900 each for replacements or is there a good alternative?

Personally I would like to have a spare or space saver? what are my options here?

thanks
darren

 

[Jandre]

We bit the bullet and replaced all 4.

Would prefer to have a spare in the car, but where do you put it?

 

[Scouse]

Howsit guys,

what are you doing when buying new tyres? my rears are nearly done, 255/40/17, do you bite the bullet and pay R3900 each for replacements or is there a good alternative?

Personally I would like to have a spare or space saver? what are my options here?

thanks
darren

I see there is a guy on gumtree that sells full sets of runflats for 10K (brand new), so there is option 1

Other option, to use normal tyres at a lower cost, only thing is, im not to sure how BMW react to this with regards to warranty etc etc, secondly, as you mentioned, what do you do about a spare, spacesaver option? :thumbsup:

 

[Rennzport]

u can purchase the spare wheel kit from the dealer.. think it's R3k
then go for non runflats

 

[Fuzzy]

Runflats are pretty expensive, and wonderfull to have in case of emergency! Only problem I have is that when its damaged there aint no repairing them you can only but replace them.

I suppose safety as aposed to having the option to be able to "fix" my tyre is far outweighed. I dont particularly like replacing two tyres at a time, but most times there aint no choice from a cost perspective.

I immediately start saving for my tyres as soon as they are replaced. This way I can replace 4 at a time!

I dont think putting on an alternative tyre (that being non runflats) would affect your warranty with BMW, AS LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN THE SAME SPECIFICATION. I stand corrected, but runflats are more of a "perk" than a "criteria"

 

[msm]

A word of advise: 255/40/17 in non-runflat is not easy to find. I spent about 2 weeks trying to find that tyre size in a good brand at a decent price for my E39.

However, I was looking for a complete set of the same brand though (235/45 in front + 255/40 at the rear). Prices were all R10K+ for the set. Personally I hate having different brands of tyres on the car - it just drives me nuts.

So before you choose to go non-runflats, shop around first based on the sizes you want.

 

[Scouse]

OK so it wont affect the warranty etc as long as you run the spec size tyres?

Thats nice to know :thumbsup:

 

[Fuzzy]

For information purposes only:

Tyre Pressure. Safety and performance go hand in hand.

The correct tyres, in good condition and correctly inflated are vital for your safety and that of your passengers. Although Runflat tyres offer complete peace of mind and convenience it is imperative that the vehicle's tyre pressure is checked at least once every 2 weeks to ensure maximum tyre life.

• Your vehicle's tyre pressure should only be checked when the tyres are cold.
• The RPA System must be reset every time the tyre pressure is adjusted, a wheel is changed or a trailer is attached/ detached.
• The system can only be reset while the vehicle is stationary.

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Yep, the warranty will only be affected if you decide to run with tyres other than specified and suitable (recommended) for your BMW. Reason for this is quite simple - running with non specified tyres and rims (size, weight etc) affect the vehicles fuel economy, performance and in certain cases unnecessary wear & tear i.e. suspension...(if you are running "abnormally" larger or smaller profiles of rim or tyre)

There are so many factors to consider. In other words, putting on anything other than specified leaves you open to non-conformance which could lead to repudiation of a claim for damages etc that could directly be as a result of non specified tyres. (or they can use that excuse) Hmm that was a mouthfull. Did it make sense?

This is why when the okes are involved in accidents or are in the process of a claim, the first thing they do is swop around their rims and tyres to their standards so that the insurance guys cannot look for any excuses in that department.

My advice to you is, check with who you have your warranty with.

 

[darren]

mmm, thanks for all the help,

@Scouse - can you post a link to this advert on gumtree, I can't seem to find it

ja it seems that size isn't too easy to find, i did find a conti for around R2000 but not sure how good they are,

yes, phoned BMW, space saver is R2703-48, they say it will fit in the boot, you'll just have to remove the plastic part 1st (i'll try this this weekend).

so for R2000 x 2 + 1 space saver, it will cost the same as 2 x runflats!

I suppose I'll check with BM and my insurance (althought I doubt they'd have a problem).

I've been looking at forums abroad, it seems the michelin PS2 seems like a good replacement (non run flat), but not sure if they sell them here?

I had a puncture with a runflat in my old mans car, by the time you pull over, the tyres are unrepairable, so you then have to fork out 2 x new run flats @ R3900 each...

 

[Scouse]

Here we go Darren

http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c...I-RUNFLAT-TYRES-TO-FIT-BMW-W0QQAdIdZ146819425

 

[calypso]

Why not put regulars and just keep a can of tire snot to get you home.

 

[SLOW BMW]

I made some enquiries previously when my car went in for a minor prang...the guys at forsdicks told me that I should stick to runflats...insurance and bmw are not too keen on paying claims were the specified wheels are not used, ie. runflats....so the question is...why be penny wise and pound foolish?

 

[Superchip]

I made some enquiries previously when my car went in for a minor prang...the guys at forsdicks told me that I should stick to runflats...insurance and bmw are not too keen on paying claims were the specified wheels are not used, ie. runflats....so the question is...why be penny wise and pound foolish?

They told me the same thing

Had to dig deep, very deep to pay for my new run-flats

Going to drive more conservatively now

 

[Rennzport]

u just need to specify on your insurance contract that you are not using run flats

i think its a greater issue if you're using el-cheapo tyres... whether runflat or not

 

[Hellas]

Why would not running runflats risk the m/plan? 'Air' tyres ryn smoother, softer AND ARE CHEAPER. BMW dealers will think up ANY excuse to not pay up... :cursin:

 

[CheapnNasty]

My brother had a tyre issue when he bought his E90 motorsport. Because he bought it through a private sale the previous owner put on "non run flats". BMW did give him issues about transferring and extending the motorplan. But he did however manage to sneak it through the process by taking out his spare and jack out of the boot and speaking to a different agent :shocked:

But here's Murphy's law :hammerhead: About 6 months later he had a puncture on one of the rears. The "loose/flapping" tyre knocked off the side sill. Also when he finally got to a garage. The bottle jack that he had didn't work (nowhere to put it?!?). Luckily the jack from my car did work (a e46 half scissor).

So the moral of the story is:
1) BMW may give you issues if the find out. Especially if there's a motorplan claim.
2) If you go the regular tyre route and have a puncture, stop as soon as possible to avoid trim damage.
3) also make sure you have the right jack. i.e. the half scissor that fits into the std jack slots.

Oh yes. In the end he did bite the bullet and shell out for the run flats so that it never happened again. A +-R12000 exercise for 4 tyres and few free side sill clips later.

 

[Rennzport]

what claim could mplan deny coz u dnt have runflats?
Its not like they cover tyres.
And regular tyres cant affect the functioning or wear and tear on parts, anymore than with runflats.
So i cant see mplan being a problem at all.
Some dealers will give u any bs, so check with bmwsa instead.

I dnt have run flats, and its not much cost saving.. Coz these "regular" tyres run around 4k each.

 

[Hellas]

But if BMW dealers want to give to lip about the jack, they had better come up with a better design first. The half scissor is as dangerous as it gets...

 

[Rennzport]

true.. Piece of crap
Rather drive around with 1 of those big jacks in the boot

I remember jacking my golf once, with the crap vw jack
It slipped while the wheel was off!
What a mission it was to lift it

 

[darren]

ja, I suppose its best to just bite the bullet and get the originals! damn, i think I must drive like a granny from now on! it seems like any decent tyre is around the R4000 mark anyway, I will see if I can find any good deals in the next month!

thanks for the help chaps!