RGM 1000hp e90 M3

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Jonathan335

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Hahahaha.. These guys are around the corner from my office, so i thought for a laugh let me pop around and ask them how much the would charge to install my WMI.

1st:
Rob claims they have never installed one :fencelook:

2nd: He rekons they can do it, but need 2 days (Hahaha) and at 520 an hour it will work out to around 10k to install a kit that costs 4k.

I then(for another laugh) asked him what mods he can do to my 335(it was already modded). Intercooler, intake, exhaust and software?? he reckons they get them up to 225-230 Wkw....... i didnt bother even asking a price....
 
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SP33DYV

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:yuck:
And there is nothing new on this car, all imported parts which they then just bolt on.
 
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SP33DYV

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notionza said:
SP33DYV said:
:yuck:
And there is nothing new on this car, all imported parts which they then just bolt on.


The RGMotorsport sticker is local ok! :rollsmile:

I did say bolt on, not stick on. :roflol:
 

DieselFan

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922-GP said:
Crash_Nemesis said:
Sorry 922, I completely disagree. Exclusive client base my ass. The supercharger they use is only R23000. The dastek UniQ plus tuning another R5000. The rest is simple plumbing and a "fancy" looking intake. You can buy a better flowing intake from Active Auto or VF engineering. RGM even use the stock bosh recirculating valve. I guess what I am saying is, that one can easily import a kit from USA for half the price RGM charges and make more power. Get me a quote for a supercharged e46 M3 from RGM... then come talk to me.

Dude please, not every car enthusiast, myself included, has the time to go researching and hunting for parts ect at bargain prices, and yes RGM are aiming for an exclusive client base hence their prices, bottom line is that it is their choice to charge whatever they feel, if they feel their work is worth R100k then that's what they are entitled to charge. Don't get me wrong, I agree their prices are astranomical but they are a business at the end of the day and it shouldn't bother you who agrees to pay their prices or not. If you have such a hatred for them that you flame their prices at every single opportunity you get, then why don't you just go take it up with them cos it really seems to rub you up the wrong way

But in 5 lines that you've already read, you've learned where you can get these parts for 1/4 of the price and that their kit is not necessarily the best?
 

922-ZN

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Crash_Nemesis said:
You seem to have missed the point of my argument. Once again 922...

Learn to read slowly... Everytime I have "bashed" RGM, it was to point out that people can get a kit for cheaper. Why must you insist on always turning this into an argument. What I say, is purely to educate this forum, that there are better options. How do I know? Because I have done it myself. If you want to spent the money at RGM after my advice, you are more than welcome to.

But most people don't realize that there are other options. There is a stigma that supercharging is meant for an exclusive club due to what RGM say. You say you don't have the time to research it? Then you deserve to get ripped off and have no leg to stand on when you come crying that you got ripped off on any car performance purchase you made.

So get off your high horse china and actually understand what it is that I am saying.

Hahahaha dude please, I won't even take this further as you have no concept of what a business is... anyway, well done Mr Supercharger Guru, all the best
 
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SP33DYV

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Sirhan said:
RGM are too expensive. For my Z4M

The Front brake upgrade for your vehicle consists of the following:



· RGM/Vari 6 pot billet aluminium callipers manufactured to RGM specifications

· 355mm directional vented & slotted brake discs

& billet machined aluminium centre brake bells

· Aircraft grade billet machined calliper anchors & mounting kits

· Goodgridge Teflon braided brake pipes

· Ferodo DS2500 street/race compound brake pads

· PRF racing brake fluid



RGM Front brake upgrade cost fitted R32,850.00 inc.vat



The rear brake upgrade consists of the following



· RGM/Vari 4 pot callipers

· 345 x28mm rear discs

· Ally bells and bolts

· Ally brackets

· Braided brake lines

· Rear brake pads



RGM rear brake upgrade cost fitted R 27900.inc vat



Please note these brake callipers are available in black, silver, gold. RGM also offers these brake callipers in ceramic coated Red at an extra cost of R1500.inc per calliper.

Clutch and flywheel options

· RGM offers various combinations of Spec clutch kits with flywheel combinations. My personal preference for your supercharge car would the stage 2 + clutch and the aluminium light weight flywheel.

· Cost of the Spec stage 2+ clutch plate, pressure plate and thrust bearing kit R19000.inc

· Cost of the Spec aluminium light weight flywheel R 12000.inc

· Total Package including installation R 34000.inc





Quaife differential – The quaife differential is a race designed and proven limited slip differential , this is a centre portion and does not change the differential ratio . When installed will allow the equal power distribution to both rear driven wheels , this power distribution is maintained on not only on straight road and pull off but performance equally on cornering .

The cost of this component installed is R 38000.inc

And guess where he gets this?
From BigBrakesDirect in Benoni. :nonono:
VARI Racing brakes did all the research and development, RGM just sells it with a huge mark up. You can probably get it fitted directly from VARI aka BigBrakesDirect for a quarter of the price and with better workmanship.
 

Nikhil

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The future of this car:

It will make speed and sound magazine
Be parked at a few big events
Disappear for a year or two
Then put up for sale at an insane price
The Engine will explode shortly after
The car will become a distant memory and no one will hear of it again.
 
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SP33DYV

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Nikhil said:
The future of this car:

It will make speed and sound magazine
Be parked at a few big events
Disappear for a year or two
Then put up for sale at an insane price
The Engine will explode shortly after
The car will become a distant memory and no one will hear of it again.

True story
 

Demon tweaked

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SP33DYV said:
Nikhil said:
The future of this car:

It will make speed and sound magazine
Be parked at a few big events
Disappear for a year or two
Then put up for sale at an insane price
The Engine will explode shortly after
The car will become a distant memory and no one will hear of it again.

True story

Amen.
 

Kimeran

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Nikhil said:
The future of this car:

It will make speed and sound magazine
Be parked at a few big events
Disappear for a year or two
Then put up for sale at an insane price
The Engine will explode shortly after
The car will become a distant memory and no one will hear of it again.

I dunno why u hating on them....Your number plate starts with rgm! :rollsmile:
 

Nikhil

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Kimeran said:
Nikhil said:
The future of this car:

It will make speed and sound magazine
Be parked at a few big events
Disappear for a year or two
Then put up for sale at an insane price
The Engine will explode shortly after
The car will become a distant memory and no one will hear of it again.

I dunno why u hating on them....Your number plate starts with rgm! :rollsmile:

Lies Rgw, if it was Rgm I would have never bought the car :fencelook:
 

Blert

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Nikhil said:
The future of this car:

It will make speed and sound magazine
Be parked at a few big events
Disappear for a year or two
Then put up for sale at an insane price
The Engine will explode shortly after
The car will become a distant memory and no one will hear of it again.


:roflol::roflol::roflol:

nail on the head.



dont know if anybody remebers the story of some dude with his alfa that took his car to RGM couldnt get his car sorted blah blah and charged him a stupid amount for the work done on the car that was not fixed
RGM went to his work and threated the guys life cause the guy went public about the workmanship and crappy service he got.
 

rhett325

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922-GP said:
Hahahaha dude please, I won't even take this further as you have no concept of what a business is...
By your deduction a "business" is a place where charging 2 or 3 times as much as other places charge is both acceptable and ethical. Charging triple what everyone else charges and making sales is not business, its luck.

How does RGM add enough value to supercharger oil to make the price 3 times as much?

Anyway, you are welcome to spend your hard earned money in whatever way you see fit I suppose, that's your business and I won't judge that at all.
 

moranor@axis

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not to take sides or get involved in a personal argument

charging 2-3 times what somethings worth is inviting completion to come in and charge less for a better job and make you look BAD... premium brand or not

unless you show the customer where the Value is in your product or service they will not be happy when they find out you can get the same thing for half or a third the cost elsewhere...

so the question is are they doing enough to prove their value to customers? by the looks of this thread probably not enough...
 

George Smooth

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This isnt a bespoke kit that can be ordered online. Its totally custom.
I think there are 2 or 3 Vortech YSI cars worldwide.
Will be interesting to see it run.
 

922-ZN

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moranor@axis said:
so the question is are they doing enough to prove their value to customers? by the looks of this thread probably not enough...

This is my point bud, I don't think the replies on this thread is a testiment to their business success cos obviously they are still openly trading, but somehow they are proving to some people that R100k, for arguements sake, is what their service is worth so they are doing enough to keep their doors open.

rhett325 said:
By your deduction a "business" is a place where charging 2 or 3 times as much as other places charge is both acceptable and ethical. Charging triple what everyone else charges and making sales is not business, its luck.

How does RGM add enough value to supercharger oil to make the price 3 times as much?

Anyway, you are welcome to spend your hard earned money in whatever way you see fit I suppose, that's your business and I won't judge that at all.

Bud, that's the beauty of having your own business, it's about your marketing and being able to charge whatever YOU feel is what you or your product is worth. MAYBE they charge eg 100% more than company X because THEY feel their expertise is worth that much more, but it's their choice, we may feel otherwise but that doesn't, and shouldn't, matter to them


George Smooth said:
This isnt a bespoke kit that can be ordered online. Its totally custom.
I think there are 2 or 3 Vortech YSI cars worldwide.
Will be interesting to see it run.

Dude how is the most anticipated car of 2013 doing?:rollsmile:
 

dvst8

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I had a long reply but then decided against posting it.

Rather let the experts discuss. While doing so, the RGM workshop is busy, cars are churning out and guess what ? The may not be the fastest, they are however still fast and reliable.

We were speaking to Steve in december about this, we came to the conclusion, you want cheap, sure there are cheap options out there, you want the experience and R&D that go into the RGM builds, there is a price and people are still paying. Companies have come and gone and RGM are still going strong.
 
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