Sabretooth tiger
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MR_Y
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Hi All,
Approx. 17,000km and 1 year later...
More words to follow later 😁
Pictures from Kyalami late last year.
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Approx. 17,000km and 1 year later...
More words to follow later 😁
Pictures from Kyalami late last year.
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MR_Y
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Hi All
Some forumites have asked me offline for comments on how my experience has been so far and also surprised that I am keeping my cars for so long now 😁
I also see there was a heated debate on an F80 M3 post (https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/threads/f80-comp-vs-g80-comp.101919/) about Porsches vs BMW M cars while I was away. I have nothing to add there. There is no wrong choice in choosing an M car over a 911 or vice versa. It boils down to what you want for yourself.
After a year of daily driving and weekend blasting, 17,000km over varied road surfaces (dodging potholes everywhere in JHB, light gravel sections in Midrand, smooth black top on the national highways, undulating back roads, driving through heavy rain, etc), I am more in love with this car than when I first got it a year ago.
Here is the list:
1. It does the daily commute perfectly. The ride in traffic is no worse than a modern 3 series. Even on low profile 20 inch tyres, it is very acceptable. The PASM (adaptive dampers) playing a role in keeping the ride decent. Dealing with potholes is a pain, but being low to the ground in a sports car adds an element of fun as you try to dodge them swiftly. You will hit the odd minor/small pothole (on the M1 highway there are a few forming), but the car keeps its composure. My wheels and tyres are still perfect (I did routine balancing/alignment recently - only minor toe adjustment was needed). Because it is a larger car than the Cayman, I feel it handles undulations in the road better - it feels more planted, in a Grand Tourer type of way. The back seats are also usable for kids, but the lack of rear headrests is a concern if traveling long distances.
Fuel consumption on open road hits 7-8 litres per 100km. With daily traffic and open road mixed in, I am averaging 11 litres per 100km.
2. It does the sports car thing well. Being naturally aspirated, when you breach 3,000 rpm it changes character and this is its weekend mode. I explained before how well it handles and drives in a spirited fashion, so won't expand further. It is not as quick as a modern hyper hatch or a modern full fat M car, but comparing to them is missing the point of the car - it is about the sensation of speed not the sheer speed. Not everyone will understand this and appreciate this difference and like that F80 M3 thread I mentioned earlier, it depends on what you want and what is right for you. Having also driven a 997, I can say that that the 991 is more refined and balances the daily vs weekend role better.
3. Reliability. The car has had some big ticket items replaced under Plan, as posted last year. No major issues since then. The 12 year major service was done recently on Plan - this was the one where the PDK oil change is also done. Being out of Plan, I am not worried about maintenance costs - for big ticket items, there is always the independent Porsche specialists around Gauteng that can fix issues (much cheaper than replacing parts fully, as per most dealers) at a reasonable cost. Being driven daily also helps allow the car to stretch its legs over a variety of conditions. Instead of worrying if something is going to break, just enjoy the car as much as you can. These cars are arguably the best built sports cars around of this vintage (ok, an MX-5 is more reliable
) and that goes someway to explain why a 2013 911 Carrera S keeps it value so much better than a similar aged Aston Martin, F Type or SL sports cars - which are likely dropping 50% or more from original price (granted, that makes them great used buys).
4. Therapeutic factor. I personally prefer going to the office to work and avoid WFH as much as possible. The drive to/from the office in this car helps clear the mind. I have owned a variety of cars, but it is this 911 that gives me the best automotive therapy - especially when leaving the office at 6.30pm and having minimal traffic.
Anyway, that's just my ramblings.
Good to be back and will engage further on the X3 side of things - seeing that I will need advice on other items therein as the car crosses over the 8 year mark.
Thanks for reading.
Some forumites have asked me offline for comments on how my experience has been so far and also surprised that I am keeping my cars for so long now 😁
I also see there was a heated debate on an F80 M3 post (https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/threads/f80-comp-vs-g80-comp.101919/) about Porsches vs BMW M cars while I was away. I have nothing to add there. There is no wrong choice in choosing an M car over a 911 or vice versa. It boils down to what you want for yourself.
After a year of daily driving and weekend blasting, 17,000km over varied road surfaces (dodging potholes everywhere in JHB, light gravel sections in Midrand, smooth black top on the national highways, undulating back roads, driving through heavy rain, etc), I am more in love with this car than when I first got it a year ago.
Here is the list:
1. It does the daily commute perfectly. The ride in traffic is no worse than a modern 3 series. Even on low profile 20 inch tyres, it is very acceptable. The PASM (adaptive dampers) playing a role in keeping the ride decent. Dealing with potholes is a pain, but being low to the ground in a sports car adds an element of fun as you try to dodge them swiftly. You will hit the odd minor/small pothole (on the M1 highway there are a few forming), but the car keeps its composure. My wheels and tyres are still perfect (I did routine balancing/alignment recently - only minor toe adjustment was needed). Because it is a larger car than the Cayman, I feel it handles undulations in the road better - it feels more planted, in a Grand Tourer type of way. The back seats are also usable for kids, but the lack of rear headrests is a concern if traveling long distances.
Fuel consumption on open road hits 7-8 litres per 100km. With daily traffic and open road mixed in, I am averaging 11 litres per 100km.
2. It does the sports car thing well. Being naturally aspirated, when you breach 3,000 rpm it changes character and this is its weekend mode. I explained before how well it handles and drives in a spirited fashion, so won't expand further. It is not as quick as a modern hyper hatch or a modern full fat M car, but comparing to them is missing the point of the car - it is about the sensation of speed not the sheer speed. Not everyone will understand this and appreciate this difference and like that F80 M3 thread I mentioned earlier, it depends on what you want and what is right for you. Having also driven a 997, I can say that that the 991 is more refined and balances the daily vs weekend role better.
3. Reliability. The car has had some big ticket items replaced under Plan, as posted last year. No major issues since then. The 12 year major service was done recently on Plan - this was the one where the PDK oil change is also done. Being out of Plan, I am not worried about maintenance costs - for big ticket items, there is always the independent Porsche specialists around Gauteng that can fix issues (much cheaper than replacing parts fully, as per most dealers) at a reasonable cost. Being driven daily also helps allow the car to stretch its legs over a variety of conditions. Instead of worrying if something is going to break, just enjoy the car as much as you can. These cars are arguably the best built sports cars around of this vintage (ok, an MX-5 is more reliable
) and that goes someway to explain why a 2013 911 Carrera S keeps it value so much better than a similar aged Aston Martin, F Type or SL sports cars - which are likely dropping 50% or more from original price (granted, that makes them great used buys).4. Therapeutic factor. I personally prefer going to the office to work and avoid WFH as much as possible. The drive to/from the office in this car helps clear the mind. I have owned a variety of cars, but it is this 911 that gives me the best automotive therapy - especially when leaving the office at 6.30pm and having minimal traffic.
Anyway, that's just my ramblings.
Good to be back and will engage further on the X3 side of things - seeing that I will need advice on other items therein as the car crosses over the 8 year mark.
Thanks for reading.
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Sabretooth tiger
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Welcome back MrY. Glad to see you still happy with that sweet ride of yours
TBP88
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I think it's worth reiterating that point about enjoying a car at slower speed being *so* important to the experience. 99.9% of the time you're going 70km/h. Beyond like 400hp extra power does nothing. The extra 300hp or whatever a more powerful car has means nothing then, the small little improvement on the buttons and seating position will make you feel far better. And if you're kicking on a better set of tyres, a better sorted car and an improvement in driver skill will more than bridge the gap in power.Hi All
Some forumites have asked me offline for comments on how my experience has been so far and also surprised that I am keeping my cars for so long now 😁
I also see there was a heated debate on an F80 M3 post (https://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/threads/f80-comp-vs-g80-comp.101919/) about Porsches vs BMW M cars while I was away. I have nothing to add there. There is no wrong choice in choosing an M car over a 911 or vice versa. It boils down to what you want for yourself.
After a year of daily driving and weekend blasting, 17,000km over varied road surfaces (dodging potholes everywhere in JHB, light gravel sections in Midrand, smooth black top on the national highways, undulating back roads, driving through heavy rain, etc), I am more in love with this car than when I first got it a year ago.
Here is the list:
1. It does the daily commute perfectly. The ride in traffic is no worse than a modern 3 series. Even on low profile 20 inch tyres, it is very acceptable. The PASM (adaptive dampers) playing a role in keeping the ride decent. Dealing with potholes is a pain, but being low to the ground in a sports car adds an element of fun as you try to dodge them swiftly. You will hit the odd minor/small pothole (on the M1 highway there are a few forming), but the car keeps its composure. My wheels and tyres are still perfect (I did routine balancing/alignment recently - only minor toe adjustment was needed). Because it is a larger car than the Cayman, I feel it handles undulations in the road better - it feels more planted, in a Grand Tourer type of way. The back seats are also usable for kids, but the lack of rear headrests is a concern if traveling long distances.
Fuel consumption on open road hits 7-8 litres per 100km. With daily traffic and open road mixed in, I am averaging 11 litres per 100km.
2. It does the sports car thing well. Being naturally aspirated, when you breach 3,000 rpm it changes character and this is its weekend mode. I explained before how well it handles and drives in a spirited fashion, so won't expand further. It is not as quick as a modern hyper hatch or a modern full fat M car, but comparing to them is missing the point of the car - it is about the sensation of speed not the sheer speed. Not everyone will understand this and appreciate this difference and like that F80 M3 thread I mentioned earlier, it depends on what you want and what is right for you. Having also driven a 997, I can say that that the 991 is more refined and balances the daily vs weekend role better.
3. Reliability. The car has had some big ticket items replaced under Plan, as posted last year. No major issues since then. The 12 year major service was done recently on Plan - this was the one where the PDK oil change is also done. Being out of Plan, I am not worried about maintenance costs - for big ticket items, there is always the independent Porsche specialists around Gauteng that can fix issues (much cheaper than replacing parts fully, as per most dealers) at a reasonable cost. Being driven daily also helps allow the car to stretch its legs over a variety of conditions. Instead of worrying if something is going to break, just enjoy the car as much as you can. These cars are arguably the best built sports cars around of this vintage (ok, an MX-5 is more reliable
4. Therapeutic factor. I personally prefer going to the office to work and avoid WFH as much as possible. The drive to/from the office in this car helps clear the mind. I have owned a variety of cars, but it is this 911 that gives me the best automotive therapy - especially when leaving the office at 6.30pm and having minimal traffic.
Anyway, that's just my ramblings.
Good to be back and will engage further on the X3 side of things - seeing that I will need advice on other items therein as the car crosses over the 8 year mark.
Thanks for reading.
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MR_Y
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Fuel consumption stats under different scenarios - pretty decent for a 3.8 NA.
1. Friday afternoon commute, usual traffic on the M1 North and stop go traffic in Midrand. Average 12 litres per 100km.
2. Evening drive commute, no traffic, slightly shorter route, similar mix of M1 and urban roads. 7.6l/100km
3. Sunday morning, backroad blast to Cullinan and back. 10l/100km.
1. Friday afternoon commute, usual traffic on the M1 North and stop go traffic in Midrand. Average 12 litres per 100km.
2. Evening drive commute, no traffic, slightly shorter route, similar mix of M1 and urban roads. 7.6l/100km
3. Sunday morning, backroad blast to Cullinan and back. 10l/100km.
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MR_Y
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Cracked 50,000km mark recently.
Porsche Sports Exhaust (switchable valves) was ordered and will be fitted Friday. Weighed up going aftermarket or even Akrapovic, but ended up going with PSE. The pricing is a fraction of an Akrapovic.
Also, the PSE was only thing missing from this car's spec sheet. Adding it completes the 911 Carerra S full fat experience
Porsche Sports Exhaust (switchable valves) was ordered and will be fitted Friday. Weighed up going aftermarket or even Akrapovic, but ended up going with PSE. The pricing is a fraction of an Akrapovic.
Also, the PSE was only thing missing from this car's spec sheet. Adding it completes the 911 Carerra S full fat experience
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A glamour shot from LVL2 Midrand from a while back.
Will get an exhaust video soon...
A glamour shot from LVL2 Midrand from a while back.
Will get an exhaust video soon...
Went for a run on Friday and the car sounds amazing with this exhaust.
A quacken good buy!
