Red duck tail πŸ¦†

TBP88

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Was factory fitted before delivery to first owner back in 2013.

Can also be retrofitted today at a cost of R98k (installation is extra):

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I knew you could get it retrofitted but my word, didn't realise Porsche runs you R100k for the privilege!

This is a very nicely spec'd car. I'm not partial to red myself but that's a taste preference, the ducktail and rims look ace.
 

///M3FAN

Active member
stunning ride sir, enjoy it, the rims on the black one in the video would look ace on yours in Silver finish
 

MR_Y

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I'm not partial to red myself but that's a taste preference, the ducktail and rims look ace.
This was an issue for me.
I wanted a darker colour or neutral colour.
Anyway, with that ducktail there is no need being subtle πŸ˜‚

Regarding the rims, they were black gunmetal. Previous owner painted them silver. I think it pops out nicely on red.
 

Del-Bosc

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Wow, absolute stunning combo with the wheels , color and duck tail. Congrats. I really like how you transitioned into the 911. You took your time to enjoy all the cars leading up to this. Enjoy in good health and hope to see your driving journey continue to grow.
 

TurboLlew

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I am not a huge Red fan, EXCEPT on Porsches and Ferraris: Two cars that I would absolutely have in Red. Timeless colours for both. With the ducktail even more so! Spec on this car is absolutely perfect.
 

DeadbeatFM

Active member
Congrats! My old man has a 991.1 C2S which I am fortunate enough to drive quite often. Ours is black with red interior and has PSE fitted. A very special car indeed, enjoy!
 

MR_Y

Well-known member
Wow, absolute stunning combo with the wheels , color and duck tail. Congrats. I really like how you transitioned into the 911. You took your time to enjoy all the cars leading up to this. Enjoy in good health and hope to see your driving journey continue to grow.
Thanks for the comment.

The 911 has been the dream and after facing issues and irritations on other "lesser" cars, I decided to make that dream a reality sooner rather than wait.

The choice to get rid of my Macan Diesel was not taken lightly. The plan was to keep the Macan and get a 997.1 or .2 (to replace the Z4). However, after driving the 997, I realised that it is indeed a totally old school experience - from the look and feel of the interior, to the way the car drove and sounded (lots of road and wind noise instead of engine/exhaust noise).

If I had got the 997, I would have sold it after a short period, since it felt that it was a compromise based on what I wanted vs what I can afford (while still keeping the Macan).

When I drove the 991, I was initially disappointed (this was back in mid 2023), because the steering felt way too light and the car did not feel as composed as my 981.

Fast forward to last month and after test driving my current 991, I was blown away. The steering feels better than the 991 I drove last year (not sure if that car had an issue), but like all early electric systems still has a slight vaguness around centre point.

Anyway, to get into this 991, I had to sell my Macan Diesel. The deal worked out and here we are now :)
 

TBP88

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Thanks for the comment.

The 911 has been the dream and after facing issues and irritations on other "lesser" cars, I decided to make that dream a reality sooner rather than wait.

The choice to get rid of my Macan Diesel was not taken lightly. The plan was to keep the Macan and get a 997.1 or .2 (to replace the Z4). However, after driving the 997, I realised that it is indeed a totally old school experience - from the look and feel of the interior, to the way the car drove and sounded (lots of road and wind noise instead of engine/exhaust noise).

If I had got the 997, I would have sold it after a short period, since it felt that it was a compromise based on what I wanted vs what I can afford (while still keeping the Macan).

When I drove the 991, I was initially disappointed (this was back in mid 2023), because the steering felt way too light and the car did not feel as composed as my 981.

Fast forward to last month and after test driving my current 991, I was blown away. The steering feels better than the 991 I drove last year (not sure if that car had an issue), but like all early electric systems still has a slight vaguness around centre point.

Anyway, to get into this 991, I had to sell my Macan Diesel. The deal worked out and here we are now :)
Odd - I liked the 997 interiors. But finding a 997.2 in any decent spec and shape is nigh on impossible. Lots off very nice (LIKE THIS ONE!) 991.1s about.
Plus while it may have early electrical steer it still has an NA engine (the last non GT NA 911 as well!) - and in terms of size the 991 is about as big as you'd want to get, the 992 is a really *large* car.

@MrY, I'm sure you'll enjoy this, if the red really is far too much for you - get a wrap (Gentian blue looks good I hear).
 

MR_Y

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Odd - I liked the 997 interiors. But finding a 997.2 in any decent spec and shape is nigh on impossible. Lots off very nice (LIKE THIS ONE!) 991.1s about.
Plus while it may have early electrical steer it still has an NA engine (the last non GT NA 911 as well!) - and in terms of size the 991 is about as big as you'd want to get, the 992 is a really *large* car.

@MrY, I'm sure you'll enjoy this, if the red really is far too much for you - get a wrap (Gentian blue looks good I hear).
Thanks.

The 997 is now a modern classic, according to Porsche (which strangely enough means you can get a Porsche approved Android Auto retrofit, that is not available on the 991.1).

The 997 is an excellent weekend car, in my view. It rides less refined and feels less insulated than the 991. Also, the 997 brakes are old school sportscar brakes and require a hard stomp for them to bite, but they do bite well.

On the interior:
I sit on the lowest setting on any car that I drive. On the 997, the dash appeared to be high up when the seat was at its lowest setting, so feels like you are sinking into the car. On the 991, on the lowest setting, the interior wraps around me better than the 997. I am 1.8m as reference.

The 997 feels more old school sports car to me than modern Grand Tourer, which I think is what the 991 works more towards being.

Anyway, I need to have more seat time to write a more in depth review of my 991 :)
 
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MR_Y

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Let the milking of the maintenance plan begin....

The car has a 1 year plan that cannot be extended (since 12 years/150,000km is the max limit for Porsche SA). So far (and I know some will make a joke that I may sell the car before then 🀣), I intend to keep this car beyond a year.

This means that any issues picked up, no matter how small, must be addressed.

So far, these items are on the list:

- brake pads/discs. Brakes are squealing loudly. Granted, they may need a clean, but no harm is asking for a new set :)

- the interior door panels are warping. Common issue on both the 981 and 991 (I had a claim made on my Cayman under Plan back in 2021 for R50k). Guess the latest price on the 991 for new door panels? R85k 😲

So far, no other issues.

As far as other known issue areas on these cars:

- The PDK is performing well, in both traffic and open road driving. I am budgeting for a replacement if needed after the Plan expires.

- The usual spider cracks underneath the laminate of the headlights (common on the 981 and 991) is not showing on this car.

- Oil consumption and coolant levels are behaving - even with heavy traffic and open road blasting.

- The front radiators/condensers are still in excellent condition. I am glad that the dealer fitted fine black mesh to cover those gaping holes that are prone to sucking up small stones and other road debris.

The next major service is in March 2025, the expiry of the Plan, so will need to be dealt with in February.

The car has been for a full valet and detail. However, there is still a trace of old carpet (not damp) smell from the rear. I will need to search for a DIY solution. I had a similar issue on the X3 a while back and tried a few things that eventually got rid of the smell.

Anyway, a longer review on the driving experience to follow in future.

Some pictures:

3 spoke steering wheel was optional extra
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5 dials means 911
Cayman/Boxster have 3 dials.
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Alcantara (or equivalent) headlining in standard on S model
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Seats still look good after 11 years. These are Sports Plus seats.
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Child seat fits well. The front passenger seat is pushed far back. A 1.8m front passenger can fit in front with a 1.2m child in this seat in the rear. Removing the child seat does offer more space for slightly bigger kids. Not a family car, but perfectly fine for a fun Sunday drive.
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Minor wear on driver side seat bolster. But really nothing wrong with these seats.
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Door panel lifting/warping on the top close to the glass, a common issue on 991.1 and 981. Factory fault that requires entire door panel on inside to be replaced.
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TBP88

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Let the milking of the maintenance plan begin....

The car has a 1 year plan that cannot be extended (since 12 years/150,000km is the max limit for Porsche SA). So far (and I know some will make a joke that I may sell the car before then 🀣), I intend to keep this car beyond a year.

This means that any issues picked up, no matter how small, must be addressed.

So far, these items are on the list:

- brake pads/discs. Brakes are squealing loudly. Granted, they may need a clean, but no harm is asking for a new set :)

- the interior door panels are warping. Common issue on both the 981 and 991 (I had a claim made on my Cayman under Plan back in 2021 for R50k). Guess the latest price on the 991 for new door panels? R85k 😲

So far, no other issues.

As far as other known issue areas on these cars:

- The PDK is performing well, in both traffic and open road driving. I am budgeting for a replacement if needed after the Plan expires.

- The usual spider cracks underneath the laminate of the headlights (common on the 981 and 991) is not showing on this car.

- Oil consumption and coolant levels are behaving - even with heavy traffic and open road blasting.

- The front radiators/condensers are still in excellent condition. I am glad that the dealer fitted fine black mesh to cover those gaping holes that are prone to sucking up small stones and other road debris.

The next major service is in March 2025, the expiry of the Plan, so will need to be dealt with in February.

The car has been for a full valet and detail. However, there is still a trace of old carpet (not damp) smell from the rear. I will need to search for a DIY solution. I had a similar issue on the X3 a while back and tried a few things that eventually got rid of the smell.

Anyway, a longer review on the driving experience to follow in future.

Some pictures:

3 spoke steering wheel was optional extra
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5 dials means 911
Cayman/Boxster have 3 dials.
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Alcantara (or equivalent) headlining in standard on S model
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Seats still look good after 11 years. These are Sports Plus seats.
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Child seat fits well. The front passenger seat is pushed far back. A 1.8m front passenger can fit in front with a 1.2m child in this seat in the rear. Removing the child seat does offer more space for slightly bigger kids. Not a family car, but perfectly fine for a fun Sunday drive.
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Minor wear on driver side seat bolster. But really nothing wrong with these seats.
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Door panel lifting/warping on the top close to the glass, a common issue on 991.1 and 981. Factory fault that requires entire door panel on inside to be replaced.
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When my car is coming towards the end of plan I need to fly you down so you can make sure I get full benefit out of it. You could start selling this as a service!
 

Spanky

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The car has been for a full valet and detail. However, there is still a trace of old carpet (not damp) smell from the rear. I will need to search for a DIY solution. I had a similar issue on the X3 a while back and tried a few things that eventually got rid of the smell.

Perhaps consider using an Ozone generator for this
 
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