oil light stay on

[fouzibach]

Hi,
My car its BMW 316 I E36 MODEL 1997 8 VALVES. The oil pump is situated inside the cover and is only one gear.
After the sump oil was broken. I fit another sump from there oil light don't stay on.
I strip the engine because the main bearing, big end and the crank-shaft was damage due of lack of oil.
The mechanic who fit sump for me he say I need another oil pump. But before broken sump everything was fine.
Line bore the block grind the crank-shaft fit new big end, main bearing, set of rings close the engine. The car start one kick but I still have the problem with oil light on. It seem no oil pressure. I prime oil pump even fit new oil pump and change oil pump cover with another one after I prime this last one, I still have same problem no oil pressure. Can some one give me solution for this problems or any body happen to him before.

 

[Sankekur]

You will probably have a better chance of getting a solution if you rewrite your problem in a more coherent way.

 

[bimmer330]

Hi.
Did you not get an oil level warning before the engine siezed up?
Check if maybe an oil presure and oil level sensor issue?

 

[fouzibach]

Hi.
Did you not get an oil level warning before the engine siezed up?
Check if maybe an oil presure and oil level sensor issue?

The sump broke another one was fitted and no there was no oil level warning.This engine seized up at the mechanic as they were cranking and idling with no oil being fed from sump to pump.After fitting now another oil pump and cover we still have the same problem

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You will probably have a better chance of getting a solution if you rewrite your problem in a more coherent way.

Sorry as english is not my first language i will try and get it more coherent

 

[bimmer330]

Since you replaced bearings and worked on the crank and replaced the oil pump and light stay on, I think your oil presure sensor must be guggard. When car idles, does cams get oil?

 

[bachfou]

Since you replaced bearings and worked on the crank and replaced the oil pump and light stay on, I think your oil presure sensor must be guggard. When car idles, does cams get oil?

The oil is not leaving the sump at all.

 

[Luis Malhou]

did you put timing /oil chain back on.?

 

[bimmer330]

So you are running the engine already and no oil leaving sump?
Wow. I think your motor is allready dammaged again since this is the case.
Your technician working on your motor probably did a bad job. And since they ran the motor with no oil, you should fire them.....

 

[bachfou]

did you put timing /oil chain back on.?

This oil pump is built into the cover and it turns with the crankshaft it does not have an oil chain.The engineering was just here and can find no problem with crankshaft.Thank you

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So you are running the engine already and no oil leaving sump?
Wow. I think your motor is allready dammaged again since this is the case.
Your technician working on your motor probably did a bad job. And since they ran the motor with no oil, you should fire them.....

I am not running it we crank and the oil light stays on and we put off have removed big ends and mains sent it for damage check to engineering they are still fine

 

[Waseem 333i]

Start it and let it idle for few seconds to have pressure build up. If the light stays on the you have a problem. Its possible that its not cranking fast enough to fill the oil up in the filter and get oil everywhere else.

 

[bimmer330]

Well, it's difficuilt to say.
Set rotor can be dammaged, control valve can be fitted wrong or dammaged for some reason, pick up can be blocked. There can be many more reasons for this.

Question, how was the sump dammaged? Was the car in accident?

 

[bachfou]

Well, it's difficuilt to say.
Set rotor can be dammaged, control valve can be fitted wrong or dammaged for some reason, pick up can be blocked. There can be many more reasons for this.

Question, how was the sump dammaged? Was the car in accident?

The sump hit a rock

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Start it and let it idle for few seconds to have pressure build up. If the light stays on the you have a problem. Its possible that its not cranking fast enough to fill the oil up in the filter and get oil everywhere else.

i leave it to idle for +- a minute just to build pressure.When I see the oil light staying on I put if off.I am so frustrated I want to burn this dam car

 

[Waseem 333i]

And you say the the oil doesn't go to the top of the engine? Only thing it can be is oil pump or blockage. Are these mechanics who worked on your car good?

 

[bimmer330]

I dont think are any good since they ran the motor with no oil in.....

 

[bachfou]

And you say the the oil doesn't go to the top of the engine? Only thing it can be is oil pump or blockage. Are these mechanics who worked on your car good?

Hi there this is the second oil pump and cover we have put on still no luck it just stays in the sump.They are good they have fixed most of my cars over the past 13 years and this is the first time I have had a problem like this.After the sump broke because of where I was I did not take it to them and eventually towed it from the first mamparara to this guy.They have inspected this sump inside and out there are no blockage.Thank you for your help

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I dont think are any good since they ran the motor with no oil in.....

:=):On breakdown they were not the guys who stuffed it up.I towed it to them from theses guys .I am female and they have kept me posted every step of the way and have taught me so much at the same time

 

[racing snake]

it sounds like they have possibly installed something in the incorrect sequence, possibly the oil pressure relief valve.

feel free to bring the car through to me if you would like a 2nd opinion.

 

[bachfou]

it sounds like they have possibly installed something in the incorrect sequence, possibly the oil pressure relief valve.

feel free to bring the car through to me if you would like a 2nd opinion.

Checked that. have the sump on the floor the minute we tilt it it pumps fine manually.Put it in its correct position and no can do.I thank you for your help but am going to give up now

 

[fouzibach]

Hi,
I would fiirst like to thank everyone for the help offered today
I have removed oil pan and oil rotor cover from the car.


In this picture the oil rotor is inside the cover

When I look inside the oil pan there is an oil canal l just under oil gear cover that distance to me seems to far from the bottom of the pick up.
This photo shows the distance from pick up to the oil rotor

The aim of this photo is to show that when I fill up the oil pan with oil I can see that the oil is not reaching the canal or anywhere near the oil rotor
My question is? Now that I have exhausted all your suggestions
Can the oil rotor pump oil from the pick up whilst the canal is empty ?
I tried it on the floor and I turn the oil rotor and whilst I am aware that it is not the same speed of the crank shaft when the engine is turning. I found out that the oil rotor can't pump any oil. The only time it is pumping is if I fill up the sump canal with oil and manually turn it.Once I fit it back on the car no can do
I think this oil pan is not for this bmw 316I.
When I research on google I found that this oil pan can be fitted on a 318 I 16 VALVES.
You do not think this is the wrong pan for this car ?

Again I would like to thank you all for your help and patience.

 

[fouzibach]

Hi, to everyone
It was so funny I went to BMW dealer.
And I spoke to workshop services and repairs about my problem.
I get the answer to my oil light stay on there is it:
I do not know what can be the problem.
Its funny.
How you can trust dealers to fix your car then.

 

[DieselFan]

My advice would be to take it to some one like racing snake or some one whom the forum suggests.

Why are you having to find the problem with your car if it is at your mechanics. What is the point of a mechanic then? Just to fit parts?