discussion Motorplan Voided

CA_130

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so basically only buy used BMWs on Motorplan from BMW...otherwise you can get screwed over if there was software etc on car with previous owner and BMW miss it with moving over the Motorplan.
Starting to sound a lot like the Porsche motorplan monopoly
 

CA_130

///Member
aaaahhh ok so when the MP is transferred you have to get the car checked BM dont check unless you instruct them...ja then i agree i would def get it checked.
You pay for this, last time I checked (many years ago) it was like R2000, and I think that additional expense, plus whatever BS admin and "on the road" costs dealerships stick on is enough to put most people off getting it done, and get caught out like this. I think 3rd party dealerships might even bank on it in some cases.
 

TurboLlew

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aaaahhh ok so when the MP is transferred you have to get the car checked BM dont check unless you instruct them...ja then i agree i would def get it checked.

BMW will have no idea that you are the new owner unless you buy the car from them and they take care of it as part of the process. The transfer of motorplan is done in conjunction with a check to make sure the vehicle was not modified previously, wasn't repaired 'off the grid' structurally previously etc. If this check has not been done, then your plan has not been transferred.

There is nothing forcing a third party dealer to transfer the plan to you or to pay for that check. The checks that the dealer MIGHT pay for are relatively useless. Dekra/101 pt/AA - none will tell you much.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
Starting to sound a lot like the Porsche motorplan monopoly
It is nothing like Porsche. Porsche will not let you transfer their driveplan AT ALL unless you are buying from a Porsche dealer. It is to lock you into the Porsche brand, track the special models and protect their values I guess. With BMW, you can transfer your plan no matter where you buy from including from a private seller.

There is a lot of BS you have to wade through when buying a car, but the quality check is not one of them (IMHO). You need to do a check because of what we have read in this thread... Is that not evidence enough?

Cars are sold at dealers with 'balance of motorplan' which is only "true" because they haven't yet been to a BMW or had their plans transferred. Why moan about a R2000 or R3000 check that gives you confirmation in writing that your car is not modified, has never been modified, has not been repaired by a non-authorised place and has its plan intact? Are those not things you might want to know about the R700K+ thing sitting in your garage? The thing that could be generating R20 to R50K bills that the plan will pay for?

If the selling dealer won't pay for that check or at worst, seems unwilling to send the car for one at your cost, walk away.
 

Salt

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I was in the process of buying a 330d from a guy in CPT. I had him take the car to dekra for a technical inspection (not the entry level quality check) and they picked up errors on the car. The owner had installed an aftermarket android screen and that threw an error. His dealer in CPT apparently didn't mind but could not guarantee me that the dealers up here will feel the same. And I knew I still had to take it for the BMW inspection in order to transfer the plan on to my name. I walked away from the deal. There was no telling what another dealer would do or void on the plan. Point is dekra is actually useful and get the car checked at a dealer before buying if still on plan...
 

individj

Well-known member
BMW will have no idea that you are the new owner unless you buy the car from them and they take care of it as part of the process. The transfer of motorplan is done in conjunction with a check to make sure the vehicle was not modified previously, wasn't repaired 'off the grid' structurally previously etc. If this check has not been done, then your plan has not been transferred.

There is nothing forcing a third party dealer to transfer the plan to you or to pay for that check. The checks that the dealer MIGHT pay for are relatively useless. Dekra/101 pt/AA - none will tell you much.
ok makes sense. So now its to know whether it was transferred and not picked up or if it was not transferred
 
Had an issue early on with my M235i. Got it from a dealership in Krugersdorp. They had the car checked through Clearwater BMW and came back clean. I was super happy about it. First thing I did was take it through to BMW Midrand to get a few small things checked before my motor-plan expired. My issues were a window washing tank that was busted and some light issues. One of them turning out to be a rain sensor. Is there a way to tell if a windscreen is OEM? Thinking this could be the issue as well.

Got a phone call that warranty was suspended due to a charge pipe installation (I wasn't too mad about this - only had about a year of motorplan left over and I would have done the charge pipe myself as soon as my motor-plan expired). Not sure I'd use ABM again after that. Car was fully stock other than a charge pipe which would break on stock power anyway.

Lessons learnt. Atleast I was able to decat it a lot earlier than I expected too. Also i've found the 357 to be an amazing shop. A little pricy but recently had to do a gasket but no more leaks atleast. Amazing service and very trustworthy.
 

cerealkiller

New member
Had an issue early on with my M235i. Got it from a dealership in Krugersdorp. They had the car checked through Clearwater BMW and came back clean. I was super happy about it. First thing I did was take it through to BMW Midrand to get a few small things checked before my motor-plan expired. My issues were a window washing tank that was busted and some light issues. One of them turning out to be a rain sensor. Is there a way to tell if a windscreen is OEM? Thinking this could be the issue as well.

Got a phone call that warranty was suspended due to a charge pipe installation (I wasn't too mad about this - only had about a year of motorplan left over and I would have done the charge pipe myself as soon as my motor-plan expired). Not sure I'd use ABM again after that. Car was fully stock other than a charge pipe which would break on stock power anyway.

Lessons learnt. Atleast I was able to decat it a lot earlier than I expected too. Also i've found the 357 to be an amazing shop. A little pricy but recently had to do a gasket but no more leaks atleast. Amazing service and very trustworthy.


are you sure the car was at Clearwater BMW ?

did you check your Motorplan CIA printout?
 

NBN

Well-known member
Had an issue early on with my M235i. Got it from a dealership in Krugersdorp. They had the car checked through Clearwater BMW and came back clean. I was super happy about it. First thing I did was take it through to BMW Midrand to get a few small things checked before my motor-plan expired. My issues were a window washing tank that was busted and some light issues. One of them turning out to be a rain sensor. Is there a way to tell if a windscreen is OEM? Thinking this could be the issue as well.

Got a phone call that warranty was suspended due to a charge pipe installation (I wasn't too mad about this - only had about a year of motorplan left over and I would have done the charge pipe myself as soon as my motor-plan expired). Not sure I'd use ABM again after that. Car was fully stock other than a charge pipe which would break on stock power anyway.

Lessons learnt. Atleast I was able to decat it a lot earlier than I expected too. Also i've found the 357 to be an amazing shop. A little pricy but recently had to do a gasket but no more leaks atleast. Amazing service and very trustworthy.
Not sure if i understand your post correctly, did you just recently purchase this vehicle? If so, how did that car pass motorplan inspection with the charge pipe on in the first place?
 

NBN

Well-known member
i think they put comments on CIA mmm:unsure:
What im trying to gauge is, did bmw take the R2500 for the motorplan check and transfer the MP across to the new owner, knowing that the car had an aftermarket chargepipe . i cant speak for the original poster , but i wouldve walked away from a car that had the warranty voided at time of purchase. Im trying to see if a trend is forming where things are "overlooked" on motorplan transfer only for owners plans to be bombed as soon as the car has its first issue with the new owner
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
What im trying to gauge is, did bmw take the R2500 for the motorplan check and transfer the MP across to the new owner, knowing that the car had an aftermarket chargepipe . i cant speak for the original poster , but i wouldve walked away from a car that had the warranty voided at time of purchase. Im trying to see if a trend is forming where things are "overlooked" on motorplan transfer only for owners plans to be bombed as soon as the car has its first issue with the new owner

Sounds like this is exactly what happened to @kickasskeegan... Clearwater should be responsible in some way for this since they gave it the all-clear.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
did it pass the first time? mmm wonder what CIA stats
So I re read the post... the selling dealer seems to have sent it to Clearwater and not the buyer. This would not have been the same check that is done for plan transfer. Now the situation makes more sense.

At this point who knows what Clearwater was paid to check for... if it was actually checked at all. If it is not in writing or on the system then it's messy.
 

TurboLlew

Honorary ///Member
I wouldnt worry to much about Motorplan being cancelled as the quality of work done by these dealerships seems to be terrible anyway and they dont follow BMW guidelines/instructions on fitting parts anyway. Have a look what I am going through with BMW Midrand who I will never use again.

Then on top of this another dealership fitted my M Performance side skirts with white number plate pop rivets, didnt use the glue or the clips that are supplied with it or even follow the BMW spec/instructions? WTF?

The BMW Motorplan is not worth it anymore unless you have something big to claim. They definitely dont offer the top level service or the quality workmanship they used to offer.

So if you are buying a BMW, decide if you can afford to maintain it without motorplan and support your favourite independant company. You are paying for the motorplan anyway so just negotiate a better price if you dont take motorplan. If you cant then keep your old one (car) or buy another brand.

There are few things that will make me totally lose my shit... this is one of them. For who or for what are they pickling the retention clips and fitting kit for? Same with your sleeve-overs! ZERO excuse for doing this.

Unfortunately it seems like good service is indeed in short supply (and dependent on who you know)
 
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