M badges on non-M cars

[akash]

Just out of curiosity to those that do not want non ///M cars to bare the ///M badge, are the ///M135i and ///M235i cars considered as ///M cars.

Come on man, don't be ridiculous. Those cars can hit 100 in almost supercar times, and have had extensive chassis tuning.

So can my car with its 25K worth of mods, but that's besides the point.

What makes those cars including the 1M ///M cars?

 

[VictorMike]

So can my car with its 25K worth of mods, but that's besides the point.

What makes those cars including the 1M ///M cars?

Actually, your car is faster to 100 on paper, so I guess all it needs is a tuned suspension to make it an M.

To answer your question, ///M cars are cars tuned by BMW to focus on speed and performance, and forego everything else.

 

[Lizzard]

So that is what this is about, you have an M badge on yours :thinking: and now you know we dont like it, even after all the R25K's mods you did we dont like the ///M logo being there

 

[dvst8]

All Msport models have ///M badges all over the car, either on the rims, steering, fenders etc. And it comes like this straight out the factory.

That is not the debate. Mind you, I have a personal distaste for BMW marketing putting the word "Sport" on anything purely cosmetic, but that's another discussion.

But its just not cosmetic on the M Sport package

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Just out of curiosity to those that do not want non ///M cars to bare the ///M badge, are the ///M135i and ///M235i cars considered as ///M cars.

They are not ///M division cars, they bear the ///M badge because they are BMW Motorsport developed cars, like the X5 M5.0d.

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So that is what this is about, you have an M badge on yours :thinking: and now you know we dont like it, even after all the R25K's mods you did we dont like the ///M logo being there

I rate, No F$&@$ given about how u feel about it.

:rollsmile:

 

[VictorMike]

But its just not cosmetic on the M Sport package

I suppose it all depends on the definition of cosmetic. On the e39 for example, its minor suspension stiffening, and seats with a little more support. Difference in actual performance? Negligable.

 

[Lizzard]

So that is what this is about, you have an M badge on yours :thinking: and now you know we dont like it, even after all the R25K's mods you did we dont like the ///M logo being there

I rate, No F$&@$ given about how u feel about it.
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Exactly, we dont like it :rollsmile: so get use to that, we think you look stupid and by the way, now we know you have one on the car :tiptoe:

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

///My word :slow:
This debate is still going strong :thinking:

 

[Lizzard]

It will, remember that we have fanatics who has ///M badges on their cars either added by them or the M-sport package.

They feel angry that we dont like it and they want us to see that it is a good thing that the badge is there but regret to understand the meaning of that badge and what is stands for.

Remember a m-sport is cosmetic, bumpers etc, no bmw engine performance tweak. An air intake is not bmw engine performance

 

[dvst8]

Remember a m-sport is cosmetic, bumpers etc, no engine performance

:biglol:

The aero kit as part of the m-sport kit only cosmetic ? Motorsport division tweaked suspension only cosmetic ?

Ignorance is bliss :skit:

I give up.

As url were. :roflol:

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They feel angry that we dont like it and they want us to see that it is a good thing that the badge is there but regret to understand the meaning of that badge and what is stands for

In all your google wisdom, please enlighten us on what it stands for ?

:biglol:

 

[Lizzard]

So I presume you have an M-sport right, with the tweak stiffer suspension from bmw division and aero kit

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as requested :rollsmile:

Quote (Google)
Vehicles which have been modified by BMW Motorsport, but are not full M Cars, may feature "M" badges, whilst full M Cars will have "M" badges with the model number (e.g., "M4" or "M5"). Two exceptions would be the M Roadster and M Coupe models, both Z3, Z4 and 1-series variants, which only have an "M" badge with no number displayed on the trunk. These cars are full M Cars.
In recent years, there have been 'M'-badged accessories available on BMW's standard fleet as factory options or as part of the "M Sport" package (which is more expensive than the optional Sport package). Examples of this include the E39 and E60 5 series sedans which had optional aerodynamic packages that were strongly influenced by the M5's styling (for example, bumpers with larger intakes). It is not unusual to see "standard" BMW vehicles with "M" badges or ribbons accenting their design. The plain motorsports badge simply stands for the 'M-tech' upgrades equipped on the vehicle (e.g., suspension, brakes, looks or any other modification that has been developed by the M division), therefore the 'M' badge on these vehicles should not be confused with the true 'M' vehicles (except the Z-cars, as mentioned), as they are not fully fledged 'M' cars, just equipped with 'M'-tech upgrades. BMW has offered these 'M' options on their standard vehicles since the late 1970s which explains why these vehicles carry 'M' badges straight from the factory

 

[dvst8]

Google FTW

:roflol:

 

[michael.joseph]

This thread is slowly going south

:YesNo:

 

[akash]

So that is what this is about, you have an M badge on yours :thinking: and now you know we dont like it, even after all the R25K's mods you did we dont like the ///M logo being there

hehehehe :rollsmile: i always loved this debate. Its what makes this an Amazing forum.

Personally i don't have a ///M badge on my car except for what the factory put on as part of their design for the "Sport pack", i have massive MASSTRONIX stickers on the car but thats about it :rollsmile:

Anyway as a departing comment to this thread.

We all have our opinions. The fact is weather you like an ///M badge on a non a ///M car or not there is absolutely nothing we can do about it but have an opinion which we are all entitled to.

My opinion is, yes, i prefer not to see an ///M badge on a Non ///M car, but its not my car and there is nothing i can do about it. At the end of the day the owner of that car has in most cases worked hard to get what he/she has and if that's what he wants on his car, power to him/her.

Whom am "I" to judge.

 

[LukeHawk]

This thread is slowly going south

:YesNo:

Very much so. This thread was made to get opinions, not to bash each other.

 

[Lizzard]

Hi Akash,

I agree with you.


Why the MASSTRONIX stickers? (not going to bit you for this, just out of curiosity, havent heard of this)

 

[graan13]

So I presume you have an M-sport right, with the tweak stiffer suspension from bmw division and aero kit

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as requested :rollsmile:

Quote (Google)
Vehicles which have been modified by BMW Motorsport, but are not full M Cars, may feature "M" badges, whilst full M Cars will have "M" badges with the model number (e.g., "M4" or "M5"). Two exceptions would be the M Roadster and M Coupe models, both Z3, Z4 and 1-series variants, which only have an "M" badge with no number displayed on the trunk. These cars are full M Cars.
In recent years, there have been 'M'-badged accessories available on BMW's standard fleet as factory options or as part of the "M Sport" package (which is more expensive than the optional Sport package). Examples of this include the E39 and E60 5 series sedans which had optional aerodynamic packages that were strongly influenced by the M5's styling (for example, bumpers with larger intakes). It is not unusual to see "standard" BMW vehicles with "M" badges or ribbons accenting their design. The plain motorsports badge simply stands for the 'M-tech' upgrades equipped on the vehicle (e.g., suspension, brakes, looks or any other modification that has been developed by the M division), therefore the 'M' badge on these vehicles should not be confused with the true 'M' vehicles (except the Z-cars, as mentioned), as they are not fully fledged 'M' cars, just equipped with 'M'-tech upgrades. BMW has offered these 'M' options on their standard vehicles since the late 1970s which explains why these vehicles carry 'M' badges straight from the factory

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This is very true and is conjunction with an option that was once available on Msport or individual models when my ex used to work at BMW. You could have those versions of what ever model it was "de-Badged" and a "M" logo fitted at an extra cost - was astronomical cost of around R1500.00 at that time and that was around 1999 - 2005, so it was not common, otherwise, most of this thread would be nul and void. But, the comment above is very true, the M logo applies to Mtech and the appropriate modifications offered by the factory - bumpers, suspension, aero etc. So, to have a M logo on an individual or Msport is not "out of place" but on a std version it does look silly. If done subtly and tastefully then I dont have an issue with it, but dont add a 5 behind it if its not and just rather have the M on its own - thats my opinion and quite frankly we are entitled to do what we like on our own vehicle to add the individuality we seek without breaking the bank - which most of can't afford to do. We can give our personal thoughts and we should be big enough to accept others opinions - but when it gets to bashing its just stupid..... :tiptoe:

 

[K_S]

So what if someone wants to put an M5 badge on THEIR 520i?

Doesn't mean its an M5.

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Also, there is nothing wrong with a 320i, it's a decent car, but don't stick ///M badges on it.

Why?

 

[graan13]

So what if someone wants to put an M5 badge on THEIR 520i?

Doesn't mean its an M5. (ABSOLUTELY NOT - THATS JUST STUPID!)

NO>>>>>> read......
STD version - silly - thats what the thread is getting at - my view - DUMB - but the person can do what he likes if he sees fit.
Individual or Msport - was an option - but debadged and the M logo (M only - no other letters or numbers) in its place.... up to the buyer if he wanted to pay the BMW costs to do so.

 

[VictorMike]

Why?

Because when people do it, all I see is this:

 

[Iceman12596]

im such a Shmuck lol