Inside pics of the ZF 6 speed transmissions

Ratslaaf

///Member
I think some of you might find this a little interesting. Auto transmissions fascinate me purely because of the mechanical genius of how they're put together and how interrelated all the various components in these are.

I'll also be talking in future about these transmissions and mostly discussing why there's the impression that they fail so often.

Anyway, I've got two boxes here that I'm busy rebuilding. There's a 6H19 off a preLCI 320d and then a 6H21 off an LCI 335i. Incidentally, you will notice how similar these boxes are internally.

First off, one of the patients:



Front shot with the Torque Converter still on:



Aaand the TC removed:



What a TC looks like (from behind). It gets oil pumped in from the inner main shaft that it slides into.



The bottom of the transmission. This is the sump and has the filter built into it



What the inside of the sump looks like. You can see the two magnets are chock full of debris



The fabled Mechatronics unit that makes up half the price of the transmission. You can see the gear position sensor at the bottom of the pic



And duly removed. You can see all the solenoids, these are used to engage the various gears.



The internal cavity after the Mechatronics has been removed



The input turret, with the TC oil feeder on the right and the A, E clutch in the middle. Clutch B is to the left



A Close up of the B clutch pressure plates. As you can see, you have many pressure plates that are compressed with oil to convert the inner momentum to the outer assembly when activated. When not activated these two assemblies spin freely.



Closeup of the A and E clutch



Closeup of the C and D clutches still mounted inside the transmission housing.



The A, B and E assemblies taken apart



Closeup of the A clutch assembly and planetary gears



The E clutch assembly taken apart



Notice the overworn plates and the discoloration the disks. There's our problem :)



This is all for now. I'll take a few more pics of the C and D assemblies at a later stage.
 

Bayn46

Active member
Excited to see what comes of this thread :thumbsup:

What were the failure symptoms of the two boxes?
 

Arbee

Honorary ///Member
:ty: :ty: :ty:

This must be one of the most informative threads on our forum. Thank you Gert.
 

Ratslaaf

///Member
Gee thanks gents *blush*

This specific box suffered from excessive slipping. This is due to wear on all the pressure plates.
 

ngoako7

Member
My ZF box is on its way out, how much is it to rebuild? Mileage is 231000 on original oil. There is some lurching as well.


Oh car is 320d E90 2005 model. This thread is epic:cartel:
 

Ratslaaf

///Member
Hey bud, at this point it's simply professional curiosity. I got these boxes as we're busy developing tunes for diesel cars based on the Alpina flashes so I needed Mechatronics to play with.

I will also be testing some performance modifications on these boxes so that they can handle more power, especially for the guys with tuned cars.

So, what I'm saying in a long winded way is that I'm not taking on general gearbox rebuilding for the public at the moment. I can highly recommend the guys from ZF for this as they are the real experts when it comes to these.
 

ngoako7

Member
Ratslaaf@OBDWorx said:
Hey bud, at this point it's simply professional curiosity. I got these boxes as we're busy developing tunes for diesel cars based on the Alpina flashes so I needed Mechatronics to play with.

I will also be testing some performance modifications on these boxes so that they can handle more power, especially for the guys with tuned cars.

So, what I'm saying in a long winded way is that I'm not taking on general gearbox rebuilding for the public at the moment. I can highly recommend the guys from ZF for this as they are the real experts when it comes to these.

That's epic, I've read about the Alpina mods for the diesels and I was blown away. Dont worry bout my box, it's almost dead, Js need to either sell the car as is or repair box and keep car.
 
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