E46 M3 *No longer Supercharged :)

Pho3niX90

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Also vote for charged. But put the vortech on rather this time. Much better efficiency.

And then we do some runs :rollsmile:

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Andy1GP

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Headgasket

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Xack

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Neven said:
You sir are a brave man! Subscribed.

On this forum We believe that since a man's hands assembled the engine in the beginning, it's only fitting for a man's hands to take it apart again in the end.:=): :clapper:

Let's put it together nicely now:cartel:
 

Andy1GP

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Collected the exhaust manifold gaskets and nuts. Coolant. Intake manifold and water manifold seals. 2ndary air intake gasket and some other bits today.

I now have everything needed to complete the install.

However

I first want to clean absolutely everything. Every bolt and nut will go through prepsol. All the mating surfaces will be scraped and cleaned to scalpel level.

Then all the covers. All the internals as well. Coolant flush and oil flush will follow once its all assembled.

Before assembly starts ill also remove the current supercharger setup and install and align the ESS kit.

Seeing as there's space now to make sure everything aligns properly I want to make it work 100% from the get go.

Im not going to rush anything (even though the urge is there)

I also want to install a wideband O2 sensor in the xorst (which i still need unless i can use the secondary ones?) I have a digital AFR gauge already. Also have a Intake temp sensor post charger and post water meth on the intake manifold. Both to be wired into the cabin still.

Then changing pulleys and belts until the correct boost is achieved. And then finally proper mapping.

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Pho3niX90

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Andy1GP@TheFanatics said:
Collected the exhaust manifold gaskets and nuts. Coolant. Intake manifold and water manifold seals. 2ndary air intake gasket and some other bits today.

I now have everything needed to complete the install.

However

I first want to clean absolutely everything. Every bolt and nut will go through prepsol. All the mating surfaces will be scraped and cleaned to scalpel level.

Then all the covers. All the internals as well. Coolant flush and oil flush will follow once its all assembled.

Before assembly starts ill also remove the current supercharger setup and install and align the ESS kit.

Seeing as there's space now to make sure everything aligns properly I want to make it work 100% from the get go.

Im not going to rush anything (even though the urge is there)

I also want to install a wideband O2 sensor in the xorst (which i still need unless i can use the secondary ones?) I have a digital AFR gauge already. Also have a Intake temp sensor post charger and post water meth on the intake manifold. Both to be wired into the cabin still.

Then changing pulleys and belts until the correct boost is achieved. And then finally proper mapping.

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To make achieving boost easier. Check vortechs site, they have a pulley calculator that will make it easier. Just account for the 2 psi loss in altitude as well.

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Andy1GP

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What about 15 PSI with WMI and 98 fuel [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES] hahaha will probably aim for 8psi up at altitude

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Pho3niX90

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Andy1GP@TheFanatics said:
What about 15 PSI with WMI and 98 fuel [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH AND TIGHTLY-CLOSED EYES] hahaha will probably aim for 8psi up at altitude

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Better yet, Fit both SCs :rollsmile:

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Crash_Nemesis

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3 psi loss at altitude. I've done enough calculations and testing.

Running the VF kit with their 9psi setup (Correct size pulley and Belt from VF) I was only getting 5-6psi in JHB.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/page.php?id=33511

To get 6psi we were running a 2.75" pulley (Which is what VF use on their 9psi setups). Will need to go through my notes again, but with that being said, ESS have a different bracket and set up so their pulley sizes may vary, but if they are anywhere near the VF sizes, then you may need to increase your Crank Pulley size, which I do recall that the ESS kit does anyway.
 

Pho3niX90

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Crash_Nemesis said:
3 psi loss at altitude. I've done enough calculations and testing.

Running the VF kit with their 9psi setup (Correct size pulley and Belt from VF) I was only getting 5-6psi in JHB.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/page.php?id=33511

To get 6psi we were running a 2.75" pulley (Which is what VF use on their 9psi setups). Will need to go through my notes again, but with that being said, ESS have a different bracket and set up so their pulley sizes may vary, but if they are anywhere near the VF sizes, then you may need to increase your Crank Pulley size, which I do recall that the ESS kit does anyway.

Placement of the SC or bracket doesn't matter, all that matters is the crank pulley diameter and the sc pulley diameter to calculate the boost. A 3psi boost drop is more accurate since at 1650m we lose around 2.5 psi boost.
 

Crash_Nemesis

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Yes, that makes sense.

The ESS kit has a different size pulley on the Vortech charger compared to the VF kit due to the crank pulley being bigger with the ESS kit. The smallest size pulley Vortech sells is 2.65" if I recall, and that will barely get you 7psi up here with a V3 charger and stock crank pulley.

ESS said the reason they change the crank pulley instead of the supercharger pulley was to eliminate slip. A 2.65" pulley is very small and you will need to put a lot of stress on the belt to keep it tight. I upgraded my belt tensioner to the one VF sells to insure no belt slip would occur.

If you are looking to up your boost, you may need to read more into changing that crank pulley I'm afraid.
 

Pho3niX90

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Crash_Nemesis said:
Yes, that makes sense.

The ESS kit has a different size pulley on the Vortech charger compared to the VF kit due to the crank pulley being bigger with the ESS kit. The smallest size pulley Vortech sells is 2.65" if I recall, and that will barely get you 7psi up here with a V3 charger and stock crank pulley.

ESS said the reason they change the crank pulley instead of the supercharger pulley was to eliminate slip. A 2.65" pulley is very small and you will need to put a lot of stress on the belt to keep it tight. I upgraded my belt tensioner to the one VF sells to insure no belt slip would occur.

If you are looking to up your boost, you may need to read more into changing that crank pulley I'm afraid.
Yes this is correct. Theybdo this on the S65 and S85s as well. Increase crank pulley.

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Andy1GP

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Started cleaning

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And removed the old charger and started fitting the vortech

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