Sabretooth tiger
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I saw a very bad inicident with a 18 year old in a Tazz. So the power of the car is not the issue here.
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Durban teen killed in 'high-speed' N2 crash
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Xack
Active member
Magneto said:
I think what Saber is trying to say is that "speed" is the problem, but unfortunately, speed and power are very closely related to each other, so consider this, a Tazz can reach atleast 140km/h, that's enough to kill anybody....but a car with 225kw can reach that in much shorter space and less effort And more likely to reach higher speeds more often, coupled with in experience, you got yourself an accident waiting to happen.
Ralf*
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I dont think "age" is to blame, more about maturity.
Most F1GP drivers are between 18 and 25, and you are considered to be beyond your peak (sharpness) by the time you reach 30, but unlike the general public, F1 drivers are mature and PROFFESIONAL, thats what is missing here, maturity.
And some folks don't ever "mature", still racing around in "BOY-RACERS" well into their 40's, like the Golf accident, a few days ago, that took out all the innocent neighbours children.
Grow up/ maturity is the key, there should be physcological profilling done.
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Most F1GP drivers are between 18 and 25, and you are considered to be beyond your peak (sharpness) by the time you reach 30, but unlike the general public, F1 drivers are mature and PROFFESIONAL, thats what is missing here, maturity.
And some folks don't ever "mature", still racing around in "BOY-RACERS" well into their 40's, like the Golf accident, a few days ago, that took out all the innocent neighbours children.
Grow up/ maturity is the key, there should be physcological profilling done.
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michael.joseph
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Just arrived in Durbz and heard this story. My youngest brother knew this kid. A few weeks ago they were all talking about whether the 7R, A45 or M135i would b the car that his dad was gona get for him. Apparently the dad didn't want to but after much convincing he got it. This kid also only had his license for 2months.
Very sad though. If u are gona gift your kids with such a power full machine, make sure they've been for the necessary driving courses on how to handle it responsibly.
Very sad though. If u are gona gift your kids with such a power full machine, make sure they've been for the necessary driving courses on how to handle it responsibly.
Rayzor
Well-known member
Drivers of all ages die every day on our roads. We can't assume that he didn't have advanced driving skills. It's very easy to point fingers when you don't have facts.
F1 drivers crash all the time. Paul Walker died in the hands a vary cable driver.
Stop picking on others and assuming that just because he is younger he can't drive.
Rather accept that shit happen, offer condolences and move on
F1 drivers crash all the time. Paul Walker died in the hands a vary cable driver.
Stop picking on others and assuming that just because he is younger he can't drive.
Rather accept that shit happen, offer condolences and move on
michael.joseph
Active member
Rayzor said:
I'm not assuming or pointing fingers here brother. I'm not saying that having been for any advanced driving course would hav prevented the accident, but maybe The outcome wouldn't hav been as drastic The funeral is 2mrw and i've already forwarded my condolences if u really nust know
Magneto
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Rayzor said:
You make a good point, and we are all surmising as to what happened, but most of us have felt very moved and upset by the loss of a fellow BMW petrolhead. So if what we say here remains respectful and mindful of the fact that a young life was lost, then why not discuss it? Who knows, perhaps some of what has been said can help prevent further senseless loss of life. Just accepting that shit happens and moving on won't help the next person.
Drama
Member
This kid and his family are from my home town. His dad is well known for cars and mods, having built, owned & driven some really fast cars. To point fingers at the parents for gifting the kid a fast car (I believe the kid did purchase it on his own) or say that the kid was inexperienced is irrelevant to the fact that a young man has lost his life. I'm 30, & I sometimes also drive really fast (it's stupid & irresponsible. I know) but it happens. My point is I don't think it's fair to cast judgement.
Anyway, RIP & condolences to the family.
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Anyway, RIP & condolences to the family.
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pimpassdaddy
Well-known member
Insurance companies do not charge a premium for under 25's for nothing. The mortality tables fully support the hypothesis. The graph has a VERY noticeable bump around 18 to 23, then begins to normalise.
It's sad what happened here. But there's empirical evidence available to support the fact that this was to be expected at that age. I agree with most on the forum, high performance cars for youngsters (not all obviously) should be a no no. Maturity comes with age.
Starting them off small (Yaris, Polo etc) by no means eradicates the risk, but it does mitigate it. Even the colour you choose for a car plays a part in your risk profile.
But we live in a world of free choice. Results like this, pain me!
It's sad what happened here. But there's empirical evidence available to support the fact that this was to be expected at that age. I agree with most on the forum, high performance cars for youngsters (not all obviously) should be a no no. Maturity comes with age.
Starting them off small (Yaris, Polo etc) by no means eradicates the risk, but it does mitigate it. Even the colour you choose for a car plays a part in your risk profile.
But we live in a world of free choice. Results like this, pain me!
cOlDFuSiOn
New member
This is very sad indeed, he was obviously a petrolhead from the facts that I gathered. :blueCry:
On the entire maturity issue, age dictates nothing. It's a silly measure of maturity by any yardstick. Granted I will stick to what I always say, nothing wrong with owning a fast car and driving it, BUT you MUST learn your car well before you do.. I took it easy for at least a month when I got my 335i learning it and how it responds and reacts on wet and dry roads. Then you can plant it because you know how it 'should' react, but anything can still happen out there.
That said very sad loss indeed. Condolences to the family and friends.
On the entire maturity issue, age dictates nothing. It's a silly measure of maturity by any yardstick. Granted I will stick to what I always say, nothing wrong with owning a fast car and driving it, BUT you MUST learn your car well before you do.. I took it easy for at least a month when I got my 335i learning it and how it responds and reacts on wet and dry roads. Then you can plant it because you know how it 'should' react, but anything can still happen out there.
That said very sad loss indeed. Condolences to the family and friends.
