Carbon tax

Rossouw

New member
Global warming does have an effect on the rising of the seas and the melting of the polar ice-caps, but the money from this tax is not going into studies to improve our feul standards.The government is making big bucks from this tax, so the question stands, what is the tax for if not to improve the enviroment?
 

Fordkoppie

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"Real scientists" also preach evolution to be true or that everything in the universe came with the big bang theory nonsense. :bs::bs:.
You cant really trust any of them
 

UpNcOmiNg!

Events Organiser
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The stupidest thing about this whole taxation story is that if you look at overseas taxes and the relative omission requirements if you will, they are absed on the relative fuels used.

Germany has one of the highest quality fuels around, whereas ours is some of the lowest and yet our ommission requirements are at a lower level??
I think its SA 120g/km and Germany is 140/160g/km!

ABSOLUTE LUNACY if you ask me. Money making scheme as is with the tolls introduced in JHB..

Currently there are only 8 cars that fall into the bracket where you wont be taxed on purchase.
Take that into account and compare it to how many new cars are bought annually....Can see alot of "fat cat" government "incompetants running around the world having expensive dinner parties in lavish hotels and driving fancy cars that we pay all their taxes on too....
And then we still got poor people living on less then a couple Rand a day..

Shameless :censored:!!!
 

Nic_s

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We do software for car dealerships that keep track of whatever they do W.R.T sales & clients. We got all the details for Ford and Mazda here in the office somewhere. But I did do some quick math and it seems to work out to about R2.08 per 1 gram CO2 over 120 mark. The new ford Figo (Tiny car) is 36 above that. I'm not really sure what average sort of car might be below this 120 mark, but I doubt there is any.

Also, there was an article somewhere about the temperatures on Mars also rising. Scientists believe that it helps to prove that the rising of the temps on earth has more to do with our Solar system than the exhaust gasses from SUV's. :hammerhead:


Oh and scientists are actually testing the big bang theory at CERN with the use of a Large Hadron Collider. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider
:thumb:
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
:pimp:
Blame the USA for doing all those Nuke testing all those years ago :cursin:
Now we have to suffer with CO2 crap!!
 

kabal

Active member
Fordkoppie said:
"Real scientists" also preach evolution to be true or that everything in the universe came with the big bang theory nonsense. :bs::bs:.
You cant really trust any of them

CO2 as the cause of global warming is debatable.

evolution is not :mmm:
 

Coisman

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Staff member
:pimp:
So kabal...
:clap: I TOTALLY agree with you... Monkeys rule!! :mmm:
And it all started here in Africa :thumbsup:
Waka-Waka VuvuZela :)
:thinking: wonder if I can modify my carhorn to blow through a VuvZela??
Maybe a cure for global warming... worth looking into I think. :mmm:
 

kabal

Active member
because I am bored :)

It is time for students of the evolutionary process, especially those who have been misquoted and used by the creationists, to state clearly that evolution is a fact, not theory, and that what is at issue within biology are questions of details of the process and the relative importance of different mechanisms of evolution. It is a fact that the earth with liquid water, is more than 3.6 billion years old. It is a fact that cellular life has been around for at least half of that period and that organized multicellular life is at least 800 million years old. It is a fact that major life forms now on earth were not at all represented in the past. There were no birds or mammals 250 million years ago. It is a fact that major life forms of the past are no longer living. There used to be dinosaurs and Pithecanthropus, and there are none now. It is a fact that all living forms come from previous living forms. Therefore, all present forms of life arose from ancestral forms that were different. Birds arose from nonbirds and humans from nonhumans. No person who pretends to any understanding of the natural world can deny these facts any more than she or he can deny that the earth is round, rotates on its axis, and revolves around the sun.

The controversies about evolution lie in the realm of the relative importance of various forces in molding evolution.

Today, nearly all biologists acknowledge that evolution is a fact. The term theory is no longer appropriate except when referring to the various models that attempt to explain how life evolves... it is important to understand that the current questions about how life evolves in no way implies any disagreement over the fact of evolution.

A few words need to be said about the "theory of evolution," which most people take to mean the proposition that organisms have evolved from common ancestors. In everyday speech, "theory" often means a hypothesis or even a mere speculation. But in science, "theory" means "a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles, or causes of something known or observed." as the Oxford English Dictionary defines it. The theory of evolution is a body of interconnected statements about natural selection and the other processes that are thought to cause evolution, just as the atomic theory of chemistry and the Newtonian theory of mechanics are bodies of statements that describe causes of chemical and physical phenomena. In contrast, the statement that organisms have descended with modifications from common ancestors--the historical reality of evolution--is not a theory. It is a fact, as fully as the fact of the earth's revolution about the sun. Like the heliocentric solar system, evolution began as a hypothesis, and achieved "facthood" as the evidence in its favor became so strong that no knowledgeable and unbiased person could deny its reality. No biologist today would think of submitting a paper entitled "New evidence for evolution;" it simply has not been an issue for a century.
 

Coisman

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Staff member
:pimp:
I think aliens made us :mmm:
and it is them not helping us with modern technology that is causing global warming!! :cursin:
I was abducted last night, Fact :mmm:
and made to have sex with alien girls... :mmm: :shocked:
I asked if they can get me same time tonight :excited:
:)
 

rick540

///Member
If space is curved then is the earth actually flat?

As of this year, here's some "theories" that bother me.

1) String theory.... really whacked out
2) Membrane theory... Bliksem!
3) Dark matter maybe doesn't actually exist, so we should stop looking for it.
4) Something last week about the universe is contracting not expanding....Huh?
5) Carbon tax ....In Africa....?
6) the solar maxumum in 2012
7) Why my BMW leaks oil and no amount of money or gaskets will stop it.
 

Coisman

Administrator
Staff member
rick540 said:
If space is curved then is the earth actually flat?

As of this year, here's some "theories" that bother me.

1) String theory.... really whacked out
2) Membrane theory... Bliksem!
3) Dark matter maybe doesn't actually exist, so we should stop looking for it.
4) Something last week about the universe is contracting not expanding....Huh?
5) Carbon tax ....In Africa....?
6) the solar maxumum in 2012
7) Why my BMW leaks oil and no amount of money or gaskets will stop it.

:pimp:
You forgot one...
How come coisman is allowed to "Skiet die bliksems!" and we aren't?
:pimp:
 

Skwinty

New member
@Coisman. We can bliksem the skieter so tread carefully...:hammerhead:

@Rick Just because you are not paranoid, doesn't mean they are not watching you..:)

It is not called global warming anymore, the term is climate change.

I blame the whole shebang on the American moonlanding, unless of course it never happened like many believe.

@ Fordkoppie. I was wondering when the intelligent design inferences were going to start. I am an atheist as there is no evidence for a god or gods.
 

netercol

New member
The common name for those who believe in this are called IDiots..

sorry mate, i take offence to this.. like every other human being you are entitled to your opinion, it does not however give you the right to make fun of the beliefs of others.
 

Skwinty

New member
netercol said:
The common name for those who believe in this are called IDiots..

sorry mate, i take offence to this.. like every other human being you are entitled to your opinion, it does not however give you the right to make fun of the beliefs of others.

I apologise. Statement deleted.
 

zulu

Member
this global warming is just american b/s ....they have an agenda from which they stand to gain. as usual only they know how......recent news report styated that a study done over the last 60 YEARS show that none of the worlds islands have suffered from the rising seas........ supposedly caused by this new 'threat'. just like 911 the yanks have a hidden agenda.....
 

rick540

///Member
zulu said:
this global warming is just american b/s ....they have an agenda from which they stand to gain. as usual only they know how......recent news report styated that a study done over the last 60 YEARS show that none of the worlds islands have suffered from the rising seas........ supposedly caused by this new 'threat'. just like 911 the yanks have a hidden agenda.....

The green thing started in Europe, the yanks are actually doing ok with it minus the SUV's which they are phasing out.
 
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