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Breakfast run to Ceres on Sunday 20 Oct
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Rolf
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Clownshoe said:
Very inappropriate reply :thumbdo:
BLACK MACHINE
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Mine came on Thursday..R400...:rollsmile:
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Rolf
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I will send mine to the leader of the pack.....
I think Clownshoe also wants to contribute towards the fines (at least his comments lets one guess that) :ty:
I think Clownshoe also wants to contribute towards the fines (at least his comments lets one guess that) :ty:
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Rolf
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Your post just confirms what I initially thought ..... I should have turned arround when the mob raced off
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BlueBeastie
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3V0M-WP
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I've only received a R200 fine. I had the cruise control on just under the 10km above speed limit, all the way until the tunnel. My fine was near Paarl, doing 107 in a 100 zone. It must have been when we overtook the slow bakkie and truck that you guys went a bit faster.
They supposed to allow a 10km above speed limit "window" before they can start fining you, because the speedo's are not 100% accurate.
If you wanna get your fine reduced contact this person:
Roma: [email protected]
They supposed to allow a 10km above speed limit "window" before they can start fining you, because the speedo's are not 100% accurate.
If you wanna get your fine reduced contact this person:
Roma: [email protected]
Rory M-POWER
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I haven't recited any fines yet, touch wood.
I think it's a good idea to always have a route chat just before we leave so everybody knows where we going and where we stopping.
I firmly believe in doing these runs safely and don't condone reckless driving but I think I lot of fuss was made on the day because of a few guys that pulled away from the group and sped off for a bit. No one was forced to do anything. We all regrouped closer to our destination. After the guys in front took a wrong turn.
At the picnic we all discussed what had happened and everyone voiced his or her opinion as to what had happened. I thought all was sorted and spoken but sadly I can see there is still some tension regarding this.
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I think it's a good idea to always have a route chat just before we leave so everybody knows where we going and where we stopping.
I firmly believe in doing these runs safely and don't condone reckless driving but I think I lot of fuss was made on the day because of a few guys that pulled away from the group and sped off for a bit. No one was forced to do anything. We all regrouped closer to our destination. After the guys in front took a wrong turn.
At the picnic we all discussed what had happened and everyone voiced his or her opinion as to what had happened. I thought all was sorted and spoken but sadly I can see there is still some tension regarding this.
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Ive been to a few runs (not this one) but the rules stay the same.
You are responsible for your own driving style. If you speed, you pay. No one elses fault. Sorry if it sounds a bit blunt but thats the way it is.
What we do (well, when I was there) is have a chat beforehand on what the route will be, where possible speed cameras are and who the 'leader' will be etc.
If this has become an issue, we should maybe have a 'leader' and a 'follower' (someone who keeps to the back of the pack but knows exactly where we should go). That way the guys that feel they need to go a bit faster can go do there own thing at their own risk without the rest feeling pressured to persue.
This website does not condone racing or encourage it on public roads and therefore should not be blamed if any member decides to go on his own runs on these club events.
Lets keep it safe and if you do get caught, we feel for you, but that is a risk YOU were willing to take.
You are responsible for your own driving style. If you speed, you pay. No one elses fault. Sorry if it sounds a bit blunt but thats the way it is.
What we do (well, when I was there) is have a chat beforehand on what the route will be, where possible speed cameras are and who the 'leader' will be etc.
If this has become an issue, we should maybe have a 'leader' and a 'follower' (someone who keeps to the back of the pack but knows exactly where we should go). That way the guys that feel they need to go a bit faster can go do there own thing at their own risk without the rest feeling pressured to persue.
This website does not condone racing or encourage it on public roads and therefore should not be blamed if any member decides to go on his own runs on these club events.
Lets keep it safe and if you do get caught, we feel for you, but that is a risk YOU were willing to take.
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Rolf
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No drivers briefing was held and some people left WITHOUT informing the others in the back of the parking lot! (about 10+ cars)
None of these cars knew which route to take
Then the route was changed WITHOUT notice to the "rest"
Making comments on how it was done in previous runs or how it should be done is not helping the cause.
No more runs for us..... that is the only way to prevent frustrations :argh:
None of these cars knew which route to take
Then the route was changed WITHOUT notice to the "rest"
Making comments on how it was done in previous runs or how it should be done is not helping the cause.
No more runs for us..... that is the only way to prevent frustrations :argh:
Thanks Rolf.
Unfortunatley what happened has happened and not much to do now.
This is only a forum and not an events planning company. Therefore those involved are quite amateur. I can understand your frustration and I don't see why a planned route should be changed without prior notice.
My suggestion is that the organisers learn from this. Maybe get a bit more advise from other forums to prevent this from happening again.
Also, with reference to the upcoming Charity drive, the organisers make sure that something similar does not happen.
We enjoy having you on the runs Rolf and hope this experience has not deterred you from joining in next time.
Unfortunatley what happened has happened and not much to do now.
This is only a forum and not an events planning company. Therefore those involved are quite amateur. I can understand your frustration and I don't see why a planned route should be changed without prior notice.
My suggestion is that the organisers learn from this. Maybe get a bit more advise from other forums to prevent this from happening again.
Also, with reference to the upcoming Charity drive, the organisers make sure that something similar does not happen.
We enjoy having you on the runs Rolf and hope this experience has not deterred you from joining in next time.
BLACK MACHINE
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Runs should be planned properly.
A bunch of us were still talking and checking out our machines when we noticed we were left behind, so naturally we had to catch up:rollsmile: but we all regrouped at the toll, after the toll was each man for himself tho..:fencelook:
I just followed the cars I saw infront of me...the road from Worcester till we met up with everyone else was KAK tho with road works all the way...:thumbdo:
A bunch of us were still talking and checking out our machines when we noticed we were left behind, so naturally we had to catch up:rollsmile: but we all regrouped at the toll, after the toll was each man for himself tho..:fencelook:
I just followed the cars I saw infront of me...the road from Worcester till we met up with everyone else was KAK tho with road works all the way...:thumbdo:
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Rolf
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When the back markers arrived at the toll station, the fast ones were already moving again .... so virtually no regrouping!
Anyways.... by then the speed traps did their job already!
When we arrived at the Rawsonville turnoff (original published route to be taken via Rawsonville), no sign of any other car except "Black Machine" in front of us continued on N1 towards Worcester and the rest turned right direction Rawsonville
Sorry Chris... no more run means NO MORE run :nonono:
Will go straight to the Charity event without taking part in the pre event run......
Anyways.... by then the speed traps did their job already!
When we arrived at the Rawsonville turnoff (original published route to be taken via Rawsonville), no sign of any other car except "Black Machine" in front of us continued on N1 towards Worcester and the rest turned right direction Rawsonville
Sorry Chris... no more run means NO MORE run :nonono:
Will go straight to the Charity event without taking part in the pre event run......
BLACK MACHINE
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Yip Rolf, that's the part where I got confused, because I could see the white M far in front and I had you behind. I only noticed you turned after we passed the traffic cop as I was paying more attention to him and then suddenly I was alone...I caught up with the rest of the guys only after the Montagu Springs sign..:=):
Montagu Springs? Eish, you took quite a few wrong turns then, since that's about 100km further!
The turtle group took the correct turn-off, ie. Rawsonville, as was published on the suggested route in the first post. And then had to wait for 20 minutes+ for the hares to get there, as they skipped the turn-off entirely. In truth, not sure if we could have waited at the turn-off for more people to catch up, given the usual police presence there.
Yes, given the confusion, this was not organised properly. In my opinion, during a run like this the leader of the pack should be a turtle. Everybody who aren't 100% sure of the route, should also be in that group. The hares then leave 5-10 minutes later and play catch up, thereby minimising the waiting time at the pit/regrouping spot. And yes, all the waiting gets to me. First we wait for everyone to pitch up at the beginning. Then we wait for people to get breakfast or fill up their cars. Hello, you know you're going for a long drive, so have some respect for other people's time and fill up your car beforehand. Get up a little bit earlier and be on time.
In summary, have the run clearly mapped out, eg. starting time is 09h00 for 09h30, which means we leave at 09h30. If you're not there, you'll be left behind, so you best research the route beforehand. Clear route information (google maps) during the initial discussions on the forum. Confirmation of that route when we set off. Staggered starting as suggested in previous paragraph. And most importantly, have fun.
The above is of course my own opinion. It is not aimed at anybody else. Feel free to agree or disagree with me. It might sound a bit rigid and draconian, but that's probably my German genes.
The turtle group took the correct turn-off, ie. Rawsonville, as was published on the suggested route in the first post. And then had to wait for 20 minutes+ for the hares to get there, as they skipped the turn-off entirely. In truth, not sure if we could have waited at the turn-off for more people to catch up, given the usual police presence there.
Yes, given the confusion, this was not organised properly. In my opinion, during a run like this the leader of the pack should be a turtle. Everybody who aren't 100% sure of the route, should also be in that group. The hares then leave 5-10 minutes later and play catch up, thereby minimising the waiting time at the pit/regrouping spot. And yes, all the waiting gets to me. First we wait for everyone to pitch up at the beginning. Then we wait for people to get breakfast or fill up their cars. Hello, you know you're going for a long drive, so have some respect for other people's time and fill up your car beforehand. Get up a little bit earlier and be on time.
In summary, have the run clearly mapped out, eg. starting time is 09h00 for 09h30, which means we leave at 09h30. If you're not there, you'll be left behind, so you best research the route beforehand. Clear route information (google maps) during the initial discussions on the forum. Confirmation of that route when we set off. Staggered starting as suggested in previous paragraph. And most importantly, have fun.
The above is of course my own opinion. It is not aimed at anybody else. Feel free to agree or disagree with me. It might sound a bit rigid and draconian, but that's probably my German genes.
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Rolf
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Nice pics Pieter :joy:
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