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BMW 650i Yes or No? Pros and Cons?
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zaleonardz
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Has plan expired on age.. If so.. thats a bit expensive..
ShaunAshley
Active member
Thanks guys, with your help he cancelled the test drive haha 
Im trying to get him to stick to n55 or b58. But he needs 4 doors.
Regards
Im trying to get him to stick to n55 or b58. But he needs 4 doors.
Regards
nish_M240i
Member
The 650i is a nice car, but if he puts in at least 100k more, he can find himself in an M6 with under 60k on the clock
zaleonardz
Well-known member
The N63 is a magnificent machine when it runs well, and the pre-face was fret with issues. The face lift solved most of this issues.
But when it runs, OMFG what a nice place to be.
My concern, with it being out of plan (2014 model) that 450k or half a bar is excessive, as that thing will depreciate like a lead baloon. He can expect to loose 200k over the next 2 years at least.. Had he of gotten it for 250 or even 300, bargain...
But half bar, for something potentially dodgy, is iffy
Oh and 640d FTMFW !!!!
But when it runs, OMFG what a nice place to be.
My concern, with it being out of plan (2014 model) that 450k or half a bar is excessive, as that thing will depreciate like a lead baloon. He can expect to loose 200k over the next 2 years at least.. Had he of gotten it for 250 or even 300, bargain...
But half bar, for something potentially dodgy, is iffy
Oh and 640d FTMFW !!!!
GravityLee
Well-known member
N63 , even the TU, is the engine to consider when you’re buying the car with lots of plan, and your biggest worry is what loaner you’ll get when your car is in the shop. They make early N54s look good in terms of reliability.
Out of warranty you have to be a serious masochist to do this to yourself.
Out of warranty you have to be a serious masochist to do this to yourself.
TurboLlew
Honorary ///Member
Any redeeming qualities the N63 might have in the 20% of the time it is properly working is negated by the fact that you can buy an S63Tu based car for the same amount of money you would pay for an N63 car and doing the preventative work on it (which will not stop the inevitable anyway). The only people who will tell you the N63 is not garbage are those that own them and are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. It is not any more expensive (it is probably cheaper in fact) to own an M5 or M6 vs. an x50.
This forum is full of people who have bought either junk OR a sub-M model OR a car that was quickly surpassed by a revision but will tell you things like 'oh but it sounds better' (this is the N63 owner's go-to) or that it 'drives better' or or for other cars 'it is a baby M2/M3/M5/M6' GTFO.
There is an N63 for sale which some tuner managed to convince a guy to invest in heavily: Forged motor, upgraded intercooler, turbos, suspension etc etc. Apparently this car makes 400 wheel (so maybe 10kw more than a bone stock first run M5) and it apparently had to be detuned to 340kw (no doubt because this 'freshly built' car was still full of issues).
We must stop being polite about how bad some of these cars are I think and even where cars are fine (eg: if you have one, it is not worth upgrading yet) telling potential new owners that 'the old one was better'. I am very aware that there are cars this does apply to... but N63 based cars are not among them.
This forum is full of people who have bought either junk OR a sub-M model OR a car that was quickly surpassed by a revision but will tell you things like 'oh but it sounds better' (this is the N63 owner's go-to) or that it 'drives better' or or for other cars 'it is a baby M2/M3/M5/M6' GTFO.
There is an N63 for sale which some tuner managed to convince a guy to invest in heavily: Forged motor, upgraded intercooler, turbos, suspension etc etc. Apparently this car makes 400 wheel (so maybe 10kw more than a bone stock first run M5) and it apparently had to be detuned to 340kw (no doubt because this 'freshly built' car was still full of issues).
We must stop being polite about how bad some of these cars are I think and even where cars are fine (eg: if you have one, it is not worth upgrading yet) telling potential new owners that 'the old one was better'. I am very aware that there are cars this does apply to... but N63 based cars are not among them.
RAArmstrong
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JN plate on a 2014 combined with a skew bonnet badge. This is accident damaged and repaired.
The 50i issues have been well covered above.
Stay the F away. Get a 640d.
The 50i issues have been well covered above.
Stay the F away. Get a 640d.
Benji
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TBP88
Well-known member
I think in general this forum is pretty reasonable on the cars. But yeah, we do get a bit caught up in "BMW"ness... The truth is a lot of the higher performance engines from BMW of the last 20yrs have had a variety of issues (6cyl, v8 and v10 bearings, vanos, solenoids), N54 wastegate issues and cooling issues, and on and on and on.
The reality is that we are to some extent blinded, so we need to keep that in mind. I don't feel like I got an S54 car and was duped by the BMW forum, the opposite really, there was a lot of openness and relative clarity about the costs of ownership. Thankfully!
The reality is that we are to some extent blinded, so we need to keep that in mind. I don't feel like I got an S54 car and was duped by the BMW forum, the opposite really, there was a lot of openness and relative clarity about the costs of ownership. Thankfully!
