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3D Printed Swirl Flap Blanks?
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Our company has a 3D printer, which can print in Nylon and Onyx(infusion of plastic and carbon fibre). Then we can go a step further, and re-inforce with Carbon fibre, Kevlar or Fibre glass.
The Onyx and nylon set melting points according to the printer are roughly 140-180deg C. The printer runs at those temps to easily melt the medium...it prints in layers of 100 micros, but 125 on Onyx.
To be honest though, the material is imported and would cost a bit, not only the cost, the time it takes to print it. I would try asssit, but the material is costly - an would generally be frowned upon.
CNC for the win on this one!
The Onyx and nylon set melting points according to the printer are roughly 140-180deg C. The printer runs at those temps to easily melt the medium...it prints in layers of 100 micros, but 125 on Onyx.
To be honest though, the material is imported and would cost a bit, not only the cost, the time it takes to print it. I would try asssit, but the material is costly - an would generally be frowned upon.
CNC for the win on this one!
Waseem 333i
Active member
I noticed i slight drop in low down power and a slight increase in fuel consumption. That was straight after the mod. After driving for a couple days it settled to the way it was before. Probably the thing adapted.
Maverick550
Member
ChefDJ said:
One would think that seeing you’re administrator in chief and honorary member you’d have more to contribute to a thread than your monosymbolic excuse for a refutal.
While you over inflated ego may misinform you to think that your No, without any further explanation is adequate, unfortunately in the real world and assuming you actually have a contribution to make to the thread specifically, you would then inform us lesser mortals as to why this is not the case, so that we may all become better informed.
So, as initially stated, there is a wide experience beyond yours, and which and documented that this is indeed the experience of many who have removed swirl flaps, and again was what I was expecting.
Which is why I posted that I was pleasantly surprised to see a gain on the Dyno.
However this was more a consequence of careful mapping to compensate for the removal of said flaps.
I have not found a thread where its been claimed that there is an automatic improvement in performance through the removal of swirl-flaps.
It has either been neutral or negative effect on performance.
There are countless threads in this regard.
So my response to your no is that remove the n from your response.
You’re left with O.
Your actual contribution in this post.
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f18/2003-e46-320d-swirl-flap-removal-down-power-t277425/
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f15/blanked-swirl-flaps-less-power-t216529/
http://www.bimmerforums.co.uk/forum/f15/2006-e60-530d-swirl-flaps-removed-but-problem-help-t47120/
http://www.e46zone.com/forum/topic/56569-320d-swirl-flaps-removal-down-on-power/
http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa...618-observations-after-swirl-flap-delete.html
speeddemon
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Solo Man said:
How big of a job is it to do? I need to do this on my E90 330D soon. Can this be done D.I.Y?
VictorMike
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Maverick550 said:
You are skating on VERY thin ice. Personal insults are explicitly against the rules.
Maverick550
Member
I say things how I see them and how I receive them.
I don’t consider that I insulted anyone but responded within the context of the value of a reply directed at me.
I would consider No to be a negative response.
What is a thread but merely an online conversation.
Could anyone in clear conscience face to face refute a point without backing it up?
Doing it in public place you would raise temperature, same on a Forum.
If I am skating on thin Ice so be it.
I don’t see why I should tolerate a meaningless response directed at me personally.
The Poster has gone on to say that it is the result of a Forum Glitch but has made no further attempt to substantiate his negative.
In my opinion this is a public space where we can learn and share from each other, through a mutual love of cars, generally.
And hopefully this leads to networking on other levels even if just buying and selling each others cars, knowing (hopefully) you are acquiring a much loved example.
My technical knowledge is limited and most of my cars are old, albeit in perfect shape.
But nothing beats experiencing all the engineering that has gone in to your car knowing its in perfect working order.
Intelligent, meaningful contribution assists within that aim and while I could probably buy any car on the market I couldn’t bear the thought of being constrained to servicing at any dealer.
The point being, Forums such as this and others provide a knowledge base for those of us who maintain our vehicles on our own dime.
In the absence of said Forums I would have remained ignorant on unique issues specific to the 11 odd vehicles I own and maintain.
For those of us who have acquired previously owned sometimes we pay the purchase price three times over, to get the car to where it is ‘new’ again.
And real information is valuable rather than a ton of emoji’s that litter most threads, or at least a well written response adds interest to the thread, rather than dumbing down of a thread with countless emoji’s.
Which I assume count as a post and then enables you to enter various areas restricted to me because I don’t have the correct post count.
Perhaps it’s a generational thing?
If I must be banned for calling someone out in my attempt to raise the bar, no problem.
I give respect automatically but I receive it as a disrespect to tell me no.
No what?
There was nothing to prevent the poster following up with a subsequent post in order to clarify his point of view.
I have no problem with the No, I have a problem with that was the beginning and the end, Its an insult to my intelligence actually and I responded accordingly.
I don’t consider that I insulted anyone but responded within the context of the value of a reply directed at me.
I would consider No to be a negative response.
What is a thread but merely an online conversation.
Could anyone in clear conscience face to face refute a point without backing it up?
Doing it in public place you would raise temperature, same on a Forum.
If I am skating on thin Ice so be it.
I don’t see why I should tolerate a meaningless response directed at me personally.
The Poster has gone on to say that it is the result of a Forum Glitch but has made no further attempt to substantiate his negative.
In my opinion this is a public space where we can learn and share from each other, through a mutual love of cars, generally.
And hopefully this leads to networking on other levels even if just buying and selling each others cars, knowing (hopefully) you are acquiring a much loved example.
My technical knowledge is limited and most of my cars are old, albeit in perfect shape.
But nothing beats experiencing all the engineering that has gone in to your car knowing its in perfect working order.
Intelligent, meaningful contribution assists within that aim and while I could probably buy any car on the market I couldn’t bear the thought of being constrained to servicing at any dealer.
The point being, Forums such as this and others provide a knowledge base for those of us who maintain our vehicles on our own dime.
In the absence of said Forums I would have remained ignorant on unique issues specific to the 11 odd vehicles I own and maintain.
For those of us who have acquired previously owned sometimes we pay the purchase price three times over, to get the car to where it is ‘new’ again.
And real information is valuable rather than a ton of emoji’s that litter most threads, or at least a well written response adds interest to the thread, rather than dumbing down of a thread with countless emoji’s.
Which I assume count as a post and then enables you to enter various areas restricted to me because I don’t have the correct post count.
Perhaps it’s a generational thing?
If I must be banned for calling someone out in my attempt to raise the bar, no problem.
I give respect automatically but I receive it as a disrespect to tell me no.
No what?
There was nothing to prevent the poster following up with a subsequent post in order to clarify his point of view.
I have no problem with the No, I have a problem with that was the beginning and the end, Its an insult to my intelligence actually and I responded accordingly.
ChefDJ
///Member
Maverick550 said:
Do you want a Noddy badge? You're unnecessarily harping on about something that was a result of a known glitch that our webmaster is working on.
It wasn't the intended start nor end of the post, as stated above.
The post had more info.
It wasn't intended negatively, as stated above.
There was an informative statement as to why I said no, plus a link to my DIY.
I wasn't refuting a point without backing it up, as stated above.
As mentioned, there was more to the post.
It wasn't a meaningless response directed at you personally, as stated above.
Read the bold comment above this one again.
There's no need to substantiate the negativity, as stated above.
There was no negativity.
Stop acting like a snowflake and PM me if you have an issue further, but now I can easily say I won't be very helpful in the future towards you after you showcased your attitude here.
Taking "no" for an answer is insulting... I'll reserve my thoughts on this statement.
Maverick550
Member
Do is that glitch still preventing your informative reply being posted?
If so I apologise.
If not, my response stands.
If so I apologise.
If not, my response stands.
Maverick550
Member
You do not deprive me personally of anything by withholding your information.
My swirl-flaps are done.
There are others though who seek said information on this very thread.
I didn’t DIY so am not able to speak authortively and guide them through the process.
But you can, apparently, but you wont.
Lets deal with more facts.
We have your post YESTERDAY at around 5 saying nothing.
I waited 24 hours for you to substantiate your response.
This was not forthcoming. Not 5 minutes, 24 hours later.
In the interim you have participated on numerous other threads, Glitch, notwithstanding.
But have made no attempt to rectify what you put out there.
In 24 hours you must have surely become aware as to how your post stands but you felt no need to explain further, that the info got lost or a commitment to elaborate / update later.
All considering you were attempting to contribute valuable information.
Yet, you have displayed no visible handicap with timely response subsequently, you also have refused to be the better man and say here is my post and the information that was missing from the original.
As it stands I call you out by all available evidence and reiterate that your contribution was zero.
You however claim that you have this so called info and in fact are now withholding it because of my response 24 hours later.
I understand. Perfectly. :thumbs:
My swirl-flaps are done.
There are others though who seek said information on this very thread.
I didn’t DIY so am not able to speak authortively and guide them through the process.
But you can, apparently, but you wont.
Lets deal with more facts.
We have your post YESTERDAY at around 5 saying nothing.
I waited 24 hours for you to substantiate your response.
This was not forthcoming. Not 5 minutes, 24 hours later.
In the interim you have participated on numerous other threads, Glitch, notwithstanding.
But have made no attempt to rectify what you put out there.
In 24 hours you must have surely become aware as to how your post stands but you felt no need to explain further, that the info got lost or a commitment to elaborate / update later.
All considering you were attempting to contribute valuable information.
Yet, you have displayed no visible handicap with timely response subsequently, you also have refused to be the better man and say here is my post and the information that was missing from the original.
As it stands I call you out by all available evidence and reiterate that your contribution was zero.
You however claim that you have this so called info and in fact are now withholding it because of my response 24 hours later.
I understand. Perfectly. :thumbs:
Iceman12596
///Member
Wow.
Iceman12596
///Member
ChefDJ said:
Yip, must be a special kinda stupid bud.
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