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2014 Porsche Cayman S PDK Sports Chrono
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MR_Y
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I thought the same, but it feels a lot different than on my others cars with xenons (2013 TT, 2017 320d).
My Volvo has adaptive/dynamic lights, so that is another story.
MR_Y
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Update
Car booked in at JHB workshop yesterday.
The bonnet gas struts were replaced.
The right headlight was adjusted (it was a few degrees misaligned, granted that it cannot be perfectly aligned with the left light because of the oncoming traffic blinding issue).
The slight floatiness at speed still needs to be assessed by the wheel/tyre/suspension technician. The service advisor tells me yesterday afternoon that my car will need to stay in another day because they have a queue for wheel alignment and need to test drive and recalibrate afterwards. Okay, I am happy that they will need to do a proper job, so willing to wait it out. But, surely they should have had some early warning/planning system in place to alert them of possible delays (like this queue story) and be able to notify the customer when (or before) they bring the car in on the day?
I am not too frustrated, given that this is not my main daily driver (family Volvo fulfils that duty now, with a cheaper car potentially coming next year, when I go back to the office), but I can imagine how frustrating this may be if you have (say) a family Porsche (Macan, Cayenne) that needs to spend another (unplanned) day at the workshop and you have errands and school run duties to perform.
Car booked in at JHB workshop yesterday.
The bonnet gas struts were replaced.
The right headlight was adjusted (it was a few degrees misaligned, granted that it cannot be perfectly aligned with the left light because of the oncoming traffic blinding issue).
The slight floatiness at speed still needs to be assessed by the wheel/tyre/suspension technician. The service advisor tells me yesterday afternoon that my car will need to stay in another day because they have a queue for wheel alignment and need to test drive and recalibrate afterwards. Okay, I am happy that they will need to do a proper job, so willing to wait it out. But, surely they should have had some early warning/planning system in place to alert them of possible delays (like this queue story) and be able to notify the customer when (or before) they bring the car in on the day?
I am not too frustrated, given that this is not my main daily driver (family Volvo fulfils that duty now, with a cheaper car potentially coming next year, when I go back to the office), but I can imagine how frustrating this may be if you have (say) a family Porsche (Macan, Cayenne) that needs to spend another (unplanned) day at the workshop and you have errands and school run duties to perform.
GravityLee
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MR_Y
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Update on the slight steering vagueness at higher speed.
After a long discussion with the service advisor and the technical manager, this is the story.
On my 981 Boxster, I had the optional adaptive steering (Steering Plus) installed which adjusted the steering according to speed. At low speeds, the steering is lightened and at higher speeds, the steering stiffens up.
On my current 981 Cayman S, the adaptive steering is not fitted. This means that the steering has one setting (or rather a narrow setting subset range) between the very light and very heavy steering settings of a car with adaptive steering fitted.
At higher speeds, the slight vagueness around centre point is normal. Taking into consideration also the fact that there is not much weight in the front of the car and when you accelerate at higher speeds, the weight/momentum shifts to the rear.
Anyway, this is normal, which at least gives me peace of mind.
After a long discussion with the service advisor and the technical manager, this is the story.
On my 981 Boxster, I had the optional adaptive steering (Steering Plus) installed which adjusted the steering according to speed. At low speeds, the steering is lightened and at higher speeds, the steering stiffens up.
On my current 981 Cayman S, the adaptive steering is not fitted. This means that the steering has one setting (or rather a narrow setting subset range) between the very light and very heavy steering settings of a car with adaptive steering fitted.
At higher speeds, the slight vagueness around centre point is normal. Taking into consideration also the fact that there is not much weight in the front of the car and when you accelerate at higher speeds, the weight/momentum shifts to the rear.
Anyway, this is normal, which at least gives me peace of mind.
AceRally
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So would I be in for it cost-wise if were to buy a Cayenne/Macan over an X3/X5 or GLC/GLE?
MR_Y
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Update:
- Attended an AMG event at Gerotek a month ago. Had an awesome time against AMGs, a few Porkers and a few Mustangs. Had a few sprints/drags with surprising results. Managed to be placed 3rd in the Gymkhana event in my group. Looking forward to another such event.
- Since I have been struggling to find a suitable runaround car, I have started using my car as my daily driver for the past week or so. Fuel consumption is not too bad on the highway - 7.5l/100km. Mixed route driving (in small scale traffic) is 8.5l/100km. Hardcore traffic pushes that beyond 10l/100km.
- Major service coming up soon (due every 2nd year). The dealer needs 2 days to complete that service.
- Attended an AMG event at Gerotek a month ago. Had an awesome time against AMGs, a few Porkers and a few Mustangs. Had a few sprints/drags with surprising results. Managed to be placed 3rd in the Gymkhana event in my group. Looking forward to another such event.
- Since I have been struggling to find a suitable runaround car, I have started using my car as my daily driver for the past week or so. Fuel consumption is not too bad on the highway - 7.5l/100km. Mixed route driving (in small scale traffic) is 8.5l/100km. Hardcore traffic pushes that beyond 10l/100km.
- Major service coming up soon (due every 2nd year). The dealer needs 2 days to complete that service.
MR_Y
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Macan is basically an Audi Q5.
Cayenne is basically a Touareg or Q7.
You can use those VAG cars reliability as a guideline. Labour and parts may be slightly more expensive than VW/Audi
If buying from a Porsche dealer, you can extend the plan until 12 years or 150,000km.
I will never buy a Porsche from a non Porsche dealer. There is no way to transfer the Plan.
modocrat
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So what happens to the Plan on the 2019/20 911s and GT3s that are for sale at all the non-Porsche dealers?
MR_Y
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The original 3 year mechanical warranty stays with the car and the new owner can benefit from that. However, no maintenance plan transfer allowed. I spoke to a salesperson at Fury Platinum in Woodmead and he says that people who buy these cars (especially at those prices) can afford to pay out of pocket for maintenance. Also, some of them take the cars to aftermarket Porsche techs for maintenance.
MR_Y
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Also, if you race your car on track, your Porsche Motorplan falls away. The guys who do this either take out a Track Plan (I have heard of this from some guys, but don't have full evidence) or pay for maintenance out of pocket.
MR_Y
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Updates at 38,000km:
- Major service went well. All covered under maintenance plan. Interestingly, my sports exhaust system is snap-crackle-and-popping a lot more when the PSE is switched on. I assume they lubricated those sports exhaust valves that control the sound effects. On overrun, the farting sounds are much improved
However, the slight drone in 7th gear cruising is still there from the exhaust, which seems to be normal based on feedback from international forums.
- I was caught in a freak hailstorm a few weeks back in JHB. I have a small dent on the bonnet, but it is something I can live with. It is on a curvy bit, so may not be easy to press out anyway.
- I have made peace with the fact that this will need to be my daily driver to work and back, in addition to being my toy. The depreciation cost of higher annual mileage, as well as other wear-and-tear costs and fuel consumption would still be less than buying (and maintaining) a R150k runaround car - also noting that R150k would buy me 4 more years of maintenance plan. Also, seeing some Porsches of my vintage (and older) on my early morning commute gives me some confidence that these cars can be used as dailys. This car is not a track day special (GT4), so it is made for daily use and needs to be used as such (granted that SA roads may not be the best in the world).
- Regarding fuel consumption, I managed to drop it down to 8 litres/100km on my commute, with moderate traffic and mostly highway driving these past weeks. This number easily shoots up to 14 litres/100km if I have to leave later and get stuck in worse traffic.
- Playing certain music (like HVME Goosebumps) causes rattles in the door speakers. The bass has to be cut down a lot to stop the speaker rattles. A Google search showed that this is normal for the basic audio system. The Bose and Burmester systems don't have this issue. First world problems, I know.
- The gearbox is performing faultlessly. That nightmare from earlier this year is well behind me now.
- The car gets a lot of attention from the cops and I am guaranteed to be stopped at a roadblock. Fortunately, I don't drink, so that is one less headache. Surprisingly, I have more speeding fines (and of higher values) on the Volvo than the Cayman. Could be due to the fact that the Volvo is so well insulated that you don't feel the speed.
- The car will be parked off for a few weeks in December. I will need to take it for a nice long run before getting back to work in Jan.
- Major service went well. All covered under maintenance plan. Interestingly, my sports exhaust system is snap-crackle-and-popping a lot more when the PSE is switched on. I assume they lubricated those sports exhaust valves that control the sound effects. On overrun, the farting sounds are much improved
However, the slight drone in 7th gear cruising is still there from the exhaust, which seems to be normal based on feedback from international forums.- I was caught in a freak hailstorm a few weeks back in JHB. I have a small dent on the bonnet, but it is something I can live with. It is on a curvy bit, so may not be easy to press out anyway.
- I have made peace with the fact that this will need to be my daily driver to work and back, in addition to being my toy. The depreciation cost of higher annual mileage, as well as other wear-and-tear costs and fuel consumption would still be less than buying (and maintaining) a R150k runaround car - also noting that R150k would buy me 4 more years of maintenance plan. Also, seeing some Porsches of my vintage (and older) on my early morning commute gives me some confidence that these cars can be used as dailys. This car is not a track day special (GT4), so it is made for daily use and needs to be used as such (granted that SA roads may not be the best in the world).
- Regarding fuel consumption, I managed to drop it down to 8 litres/100km on my commute, with moderate traffic and mostly highway driving these past weeks. This number easily shoots up to 14 litres/100km if I have to leave later and get stuck in worse traffic.
- Playing certain music (like HVME Goosebumps) causes rattles in the door speakers. The bass has to be cut down a lot to stop the speaker rattles. A Google search showed that this is normal for the basic audio system. The Bose and Burmester systems don't have this issue. First world problems, I know.
- The gearbox is performing faultlessly. That nightmare from earlier this year is well behind me now.
- The car gets a lot of attention from the cops and I am guaranteed to be stopped at a roadblock. Fortunately, I don't drink, so that is one less headache. Surprisingly, I have more speeding fines (and of higher values) on the Volvo than the Cayman. Could be due to the fact that the Volvo is so well insulated that you don't feel the speed.
- The car will be parked off for a few weeks in December. I will need to take it for a nice long run before getting back to work in Jan.
Ulephone camera isn't looking too grand there..
MR_Y
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Update
Maintenance Plan has been renewed until Mar 2023 or 150,000km.
Cost = R35,000
Car is currently on 39,500km
Interestingly, there is no inspection required to extend the Plan.
Since I claimed about R200k (gearbox, interior door panels, one xenon light, boot struts) in total under Plan since Jan 2021, R35k is a small price to pay for peace of mind for the year ahead.
Maintenance Plan has been renewed until Mar 2023 or 150,000km.
Cost = R35,000
Car is currently on 39,500km
Interestingly, there is no inspection required to extend the Plan.
Since I claimed about R200k (gearbox, interior door panels, one xenon light, boot struts) in total under Plan since Jan 2021, R35k is a small price to pay for peace of mind for the year ahead.
MR_Y
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Porsche changed this in 2020...
The limit to extension is 150,000km and 12 years from first registration.
I have another 4 years of annual extension opportunity left, which is still in total much cheaper than trading in my car now and buying a decently specced new GTI or S3. Anyway, that's my way to rationalize it.
With the big ticket items replaced, and with me now using the car daily, it would be interesting to see how the maintenance shapes up over the next few years.
MR_Y
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Update
Car is used 3x a week on the drive to work. Fuel consumption in normal traffic (congested urban roads and M1 highway) is between 13 and 14 litres per 100km (my Fuelly needs to be updated). I need to leave home before 6am (or after 8.30am) and leave work after 6pm (or before 2.30pm) to avoid congestion. Fuel consumption during off peak is a more reasonable 7 to 8 litres per 100km, with gentle throttle inputs. After working out the sums, I am happy to daily this car instead of buying a cheapish runaround. I have flexibility in my work hours, so I can work around the traffic to save some fuel.
My PS4s are wearing quite well after 10,000km and seem to be pretty robust for daily use on less than perfect roads. I do drive very slowly on dodgy road surfaces.
The PPF is also looking pretty good after more than a year and 10,000km of use.
The gearbox is working perfectly since it was replaced last year. It even handles crawling through traffic really well - no DSG clunking. However, I make sure to drive it hard when conditions allow, so that it does not get lazy.
I am a bit disappointed with the xenon lights in night driving on dark back roads. The beam is just not bright enough, even with high beam on. Trawling Google, it seems this is normal for this car. There is an option to Dynamic Lighting that improves the beam significantly, but this cannot be retrofitted. Anyway, if you drive slow at night then this is not really an issue.
With my higher mileage expected this year, I may hit two services (an interim and a major one) before end of the year. I need to get the rattle in the front right door speaker fixed (it is getting more annoying). I am also secretly wishing for more issues, so that I can milk my 1 year motorplan that I paid for recently.
Car is used 3x a week on the drive to work. Fuel consumption in normal traffic (congested urban roads and M1 highway) is between 13 and 14 litres per 100km (my Fuelly needs to be updated). I need to leave home before 6am (or after 8.30am) and leave work after 6pm (or before 2.30pm) to avoid congestion. Fuel consumption during off peak is a more reasonable 7 to 8 litres per 100km, with gentle throttle inputs. After working out the sums, I am happy to daily this car instead of buying a cheapish runaround. I have flexibility in my work hours, so I can work around the traffic to save some fuel.
My PS4s are wearing quite well after 10,000km and seem to be pretty robust for daily use on less than perfect roads. I do drive very slowly on dodgy road surfaces.
The PPF is also looking pretty good after more than a year and 10,000km of use.
The gearbox is working perfectly since it was replaced last year. It even handles crawling through traffic really well - no DSG clunking. However, I make sure to drive it hard when conditions allow, so that it does not get lazy.
I am a bit disappointed with the xenon lights in night driving on dark back roads. The beam is just not bright enough, even with high beam on. Trawling Google, it seems this is normal for this car. There is an option to Dynamic Lighting that improves the beam significantly, but this cannot be retrofitted. Anyway, if you drive slow at night then this is not really an issue.
With my higher mileage expected this year, I may hit two services (an interim and a major one) before end of the year. I need to get the rattle in the front right door speaker fixed (it is getting more annoying). I am also secretly wishing for more issues, so that I can milk my 1 year motorplan that I paid for recently.
