2008 323i E90 Oil Consumption

Philip Foglar

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That's good to hear! Glad that they are sorting this out for you! Would be nice to know what was ultimately the reason for the heavy oil consumption though.

Philip
 

frikkieh

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I Drive a 2000 323i with 250 000km and counting. Never topped up oil before. Only after the oil filter change, I check an top up as required. I check oil with every refuel. Something is wrong if your car use that much oil.

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Philip Foglar

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E46 is of course different to the E90 when it comes to the engines etc - fantastic achievement and cool pic!

From my various reading on oversees forums the some of the E90 six's are known to use oil - I think there are lots of things that can affect how much oil is consumed. The E90 motors also rev a bit higher - my E90 330i's redline is at 7000 rpm instead of 6000 rpm for the E46 330i for example. This alone doesn't explain the oil usage I know, but look at some of the 335i that have oil catch cans fitted to accumulate the blow-by oil that would otherwise go into the turbo, intercooler etc. This oil usage is also a very new thing for me to get use to - for now I am keeping an eye on it since I have only had the car for a relatively short time.

Philip
 

Sankekur

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frikkieh said:
Check the fuel and fill the oil :)

Yeah, the life of an opel owner :)

Philip Foglar said:
E46 is of course different to the E90 when it comes to the engines etc - fantastic achievement and cool pic!

From my various reading on oversees forums the some of the E90 six's are known to use oil - I think there are lots of things that can affect how much oil is consumed. The E90 motors also rev a bit higher - my E90 330i's redline is at 7000 rpm instead of 6000 rpm for the E46 330i for example. This alone doesn't explain the oil usage I know, but look at some of the 335i that have oil catch cans fitted to accumulate the blow-by oil that would otherwise go into the turbo, intercooler etc. This oil usage is also a very new thing for me to get use to - for now I am keeping an eye on it since I have only had the car for a relatively short time.

Philip

If I am not mistaken the e46 330i's redline is at 6500, at least mine is.
 

Philip Foglar

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LOL, not as bad as that, not with mine anyway! :)

But this tends to be the trend with modern motor manufacturers when it comes to "acceptable" oil consumption - our Isuzu bakkie which is a diesel uses a very small amount of oil and when I asked the service agent they said, the engine is still young in terms of mileage and it will settle and that the oil usage is so low in any case. Then I read through the owner's manual and from what I read, 1 ltr of oil consumed per 100 ltr of diesel used is within acceptable limits! What? That's crazy, but fortunately what I am seeing on the bakkie is literally just a small drop in level between scheduled oil changes... But knowing the way some people treat their diesels I wouldn't be surprised if they had to top up oil at each visit to the diesel pump... :mmm:

Oh, I thought the E46 330i's red line was from 6000 rpm - either way the impression I get is that the E46 motors are slightly more gutsy at lower revs while the E90 motors are still good but happier at higher revs. Ultimately the only reason why I went for the E90 was because I simply could not find a decent E46 330i manual in good enough condition and lowish mileage - if I could I would have! :)
 

Sankekur

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Manufacturers tend to have ridiculous specs for oil consumptions, I thing BMW gives it as 1l per 1000km, which is ridiculous unless the car is actually leaking oil.
 

Philip Foglar

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I think that's the standard sort of spec that most (if not all) manufacturers are operating/hiding behind these days! It's ridiculous! I do firmly believe that the world is going backwards in many respects - technology is improving, but quality and lifespan is more and more being optimised to only last as long as it takes for the replacement model to arrive! Things have become very disposable rather than repairable - in other words, things are no longer made to "last forever"...
 

Sankekur

///Member
Yeah I think hiding behind it the correct term :)

Yup things are definitely going backwards in terms of quality (of course prices keep going up)
 

Karthik

New member
Nice , we owned a BMW E90 320i and it also used alot of oil and BMW gave us a new motor . Bmw service is hassle free if you still under motorplan as to if you not . Else you screwed .
 

PsyLenT

New member
My 320i is also using oil, I would guess around 1 litre for every 3000 to 4000km. Given that it seems to be a fairly common issue I am not freaking out about it, and as I am not under motorplan I can't afford to freak out anyway.
 

TomJnr-WP

New member
Hey Guys

Just an Update, Got my car back yesterday with a brand new motor.

They are sending the old one back to BMW Germany for testing, all they could tell me was that it was using too much oil.

I got a copy of the invoice....


A massive R103 000 for the whole Job. Thank Goodness i had motorplan!! :clap:

Anyone still under motor plan having the same prob... take it in, and make a fuss. Coz if this happens to u after motorplan, then u gonna be in trouble!
 

BMW M

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Sankekur said:
Manufacturers tend to have ridiculous specs for oil consumptions, I thing BMW gives it as 1l per 1000km, which is ridiculous unless the car is actually leaking oil.

If this consumption is achieved, BMW would get a kick in the balls form the environmentalists because of their low CO emission claims being shot to pieces... :nono:

I would personally jump one someones desk at BMW if my car returned those kind of oil consumption figures... :cursin:

TomJnr-WP said:
Hey Guys

I got a copy of the invoice....


A massive R103 000 for the whole Job. Thank Goodness i had motorplan!! :clap:

Anyone still under motor plan having the same prob... take it in, and make a fuss. Coz if this happens to u after motorplan, then u gonna be in trouble!

CONGRATS!! R103k for a 320i motor fitted... That is a lot of money!
 
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Aatish Ramprsad

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TomJnr-WP said:
Hi Guys

I bought my 2008 323i Sport in July 2010 with 35 000km on it.

I have now done about 17 000 km and have thrown in 4 litres of oil so far...

This is my first BMW and find it very strange. with all my other cars i did not ever have to top up on oil.

I took it to them on 17 November 2010 - they did the leak test and ring test according to them and everything is fine. They Drained the oil and filled it up. Ive done 3500 km since then and had to throw in 2 Litres.

When i called them they said something is def wrong, and they will have to remove the head to have it tested. If it needs work they will replace the motor at their cost.

Is there anyone that has had a prob like this before? and any advice as to deal with BMW about this. Still under motor plan for another 2 years.

Thanks


I have got the same problem with my 2008 323i, I bought i brand new now doing 86000km but from about 45000km it started to use extra oil, i gave BMW a call at that time and their reply was it was all normal. But now with in the past 2months i filled 2.5 litres of oil in it, sent it in today waiting for there reply.



BMW M said:
Sankekur said:
Manufacturers tend to have ridiculous specs for oil consumptions, I thing BMW gives it as 1l per 1000km, which is ridiculous unless the car is actually leaking oil.

If this consumption is achieved, BMW would get a kick in the balls form the environmentalists because of their low CO emission claims being shot to pieces... :nono:

I would personally jump one someones desk at BMW if my car returned those kind of oil consumption figures... :cursin:

TomJnr-WP said:
Hey Guys

I got a copy of the invoice....


A massive R103 000 for the whole Job. Thank Goodness i had motorplan!! :clap:

Anyone still under motor plan having the same prob... take it in, and make a fuss. Coz if this happens to u after motorplan, then u gonna be in trouble!

CONGRATS!! R103k for a 320i motor fitted... That is a lot of money!



Did BMW FITT A 320 MOTOR ON A 323i ? cos 323i is a 2.5 litre please confirm
 

vishal@somaitech

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i have a 2005 E90 320i with an excessively high oil consumption. about 1 litre per 1000km.

i have done some research and it seems like there is a problem with the crank case ventilation valve. my car is sitting on 173000km and apparently it is common at high mileages.

i am going to check it out for sure this weekend and let you guys know.:thumbs:
 

SKYF

Member
one of the biggest factors in oil consumption is driving styles.
Oil usage in the performance motors are very common, and a car driven hard every day will obviously take more oil.
Generally a 320i 323 or 325 driven slowly/normally every day will not consume oil. Also every motor is not the same, so comparisons to other cars may not be 100% correct.
Just glad your car got sorted out, 103K is very steep!!
 

TOOFAST MP

New member
My o6 523 E60 uses 1l. Every 4000k depending on how I drive but this is very common if you look on the net on some different forums about 4k is common on these engine
 

Philip Foglar

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My E90 330i uses some oil, but I think overall, not too bad - around about this time last year I had to top up, now recently again. Distance travelled from then until now is 8100 km, so not chronic, but still something I cannot get used to with a car that only has 57 280 km on the clock. Looking at the service book, the oil consumption from the service prior to me owning the car until I had topped it up last time, was 6480 km - so for what it's worth, oil consumption has dropped a bit. My driving is mostly gentle using mid revs and sticking to the speed limits, but I do put the hammer down every now and again, and she keeps asking for more. The previous (original) owner was a woman, I suspect an older woman, and judging by her title, she was single. And she lived/worked in the Southern Suburbs or maybe closer to town, so I would think mixed traffic conditions.
 
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