2003 330i M 6 Speed

[Zound]

How have you hooked up your speakers? My 330 came with the 10 speaker hifi option, but not the Harmon Kardon edition. The woofers in the front and rear of my car were all 2ohm and each set of speakers is equalised and powered by the factory Alpine amp fed by a balanced differential input from the head unit. I presume you've wired it such that the splits are being powered off the targa 4ch amp and the sub is receiving a bridged signal but how are you powering the rear deck speakers? Surely they are 4 ohm and will therefore not receive enough power from the stock amp. But since you have the in dash dvd player it'll most likely have a built in 4x22w RMS amp and that would be more appropriate to power the rear deck...

 

[ZMC]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

 

[Yuben]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

 

[Yuben]

How have you hooked up your speakers? My 330 came with the 10 speaker hifi option, but not the Harmon Kardon edition. The woofers in the front and rear of my car were all 2ohm and each set of speakers is equalised and powered by the factory Alpine amp fed by a balanced differential input from the head unit. I presume you've wired it such that the splits are being powered off the targa 4ch amp and the sub is receiving a bridged signal but how are you powering the rear deck speakers? Surely they are 4 ohm and will therefore not receive enough power from the stock amp. But since you have the in dash dvd player it'll most likely have a built in 4x22w RMS amp and that would be more appropriate to power the rear deck...

I am running a 4 channel amp. The front and rears are both running off 2 channels and the sub is bridged onto the other 2 channels :coolShake:

 

[Yuben]

No speakers are running off the Headunit

 

[ZMC]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

 

[RAArmstrong]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

Different strokes for different folks. Its his car and if he likes it then thats actually all that matters. Surely you can accept that?

 

[Jamaine]

Good setup specially if you want space I like it. would love to hear how it sound inside the car. good stuff bra :coolShake:

 

[Spiro]

Hi Zound


i've done the replacement of HK Items in my other car, it's actually very simple to replace the Drivers and tune against the Factory HK Amp


Spiro

:=):

How have you hooked up your speakers? My 330 came with the 10 speaker hifi option, but not the Harmon Kardon edition. The woofers in the front and rear of my car were all 2ohm and each set of speakers is equalised and powered by the factory Alpine amp fed by a balanced differential input from the head unit. I presume you've wired it such that the splits are being powered off the targa 4ch amp and the sub is receiving a bridged signal but how are you powering the rear deck speakers? Surely they are 4 ohm and will therefore not receive enough power from the stock amp. But since you have the in dash dvd player it'll most likely have a built in 4x22w RMS amp and that would be more appropriate to power the rear deck...

 

[dvst8]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

You do not represent the entire community. You have an opinion, you have have made it known, now you do the right thing and not troll as you usually do.

OP's car, his install, he is happy.

I think the install is great. Knowing Spiro has helped with the install, I know it would be a quality job.

 

[Zound]

I am running a 4 channel amp. The front and rears are both running off 2 channels and the sub is bridged onto the other 2 channels :coolShake:

I'm not sure how that works. A 4 channel amplifier can power 2 sets of speakers (1 pair left and right and the 2nd pair left and right). To provide enough power for the sub, two channels (usually the rear left and right) are bridged together to provide sufficient amplification. That leaves two channels (a left and a right) for your front splits. There's no additional channels that can power your rear deck speakers. You would require an additional 2ch amp to power them.

 

[S1NGH 911]

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

:blueCry::roflol:

 

[Yuben]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

Sorry u feel that way Bud:blueCry:

As far as the E46 goes, this setup is one of the best ways to get sound into the cabin.

Once again Spiro deserves all the rep points for this raise:

 

[Yuben]

I am running a 4 channel amp. The front and rears are both running off 2 channels and the sub is bridged onto the other 2 channels :coolShake:

I'm not sure how that works. A 4 channel amplifier can power 2 sets of speakers (1 pair left and right and the 2nd pair left and right). To provide enough power for the sub, two channels (usually the rear left and right) are bridged together to provide sufficient amplification. That leaves two channels (a left and a right) for your front splits. There's no additional channels that can power your rear deck speakers. You would require an additional 2ch amp to power them.

Zound, the left front and rear speakers are on the 1 channel and the right front and rear speakers are on 1 channel. The sub is then bridged onto the other 2 channels.
Hope this makes sense now:coolShake:

 

[Spiro]

Is that the end result, i.e what it looks like now?

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

Howzit ZMC..

with regard to the "way it looks" yep i can understand where you come from with the "non oem" look, however

to conserve the most amount of boot space and still have a decent install an IB setup is the best,

please let us know if you have seen one of these setup's in person, then i can maybe take your input from there, as it makes a whole lot more sense when you see it up close, maybe the picture is not doing enough of justice,

maybe have a look at this install..

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=45273

or this

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=44815


let me know your thoughts... keep in mind, us BMW drivers are still young at heart, and love the thrill of Speed and some Sound...

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I am running a 4 channel amp. The front and rears are both running off 2 channels and the sub is bridged onto the other 2 channels :coolShake:

I'm not sure how that works. A 4 channel amplifier can power 2 sets of speakers (1 pair left and right and the 2nd pair left and right). To provide enough power for the sub, two channels (usually the rear left and right) are bridged together to provide sufficient amplification. That leaves two channels (a left and a right) for your front splits. There's no additional channels that can power your rear deck speakers. You would require an additional 2ch amp to power them.

we took the Wattage or Amp + Wattage of speaker and had to make do with what we had

so the Left Speakers(front and rear) are running on the Left Front of the Amp ,

the Right Speakers ( front and rear ) are running on the Right Front of the amp

the Sub is running on bridge on the rear channels of the amp ( temporary ) as yuben is considering an Amp Upgrade ( 5 or 6 Channel )

for now the Cabin is tuned to 60Hz, and the Sub @ 40Hz, hence a neat clean sounding curve and full coverage within the car

 

[Zound]

Ah okay, now I understand what you've done :coolShake:

Has the in dash dvd player/head unit not got a built in amplifier? I'd advise running the rear coax speakers off that because those speakers will be essentially providing rear fill, which should not compete with your front splits. Modern radios and head units are putting out a decent 20+Watts RMS so you'll struggle to tell the difference volume wise.

Also with your current setup the effective load that your amplifier is seeing on channel 1 and 2 is now 2ohms instead of 4. Combine that with the bridged sub and your amplifier is going to be working very hard and you might get some heat issues. Would be worthwhile to check if your amp is 2ohm stable per channel. Otherwise you could run into issues with the amp later on. Also moving your rear deck speakers onto the Head unit power will allow you to fade the system and better adjust your staging. Just my 2c

 

[Spiro]

Ah okay, now I understand what you've done :coolShake:

Has the in dash dvd player/head unit not got a built in amplifier? I'd advise running the rear coax speakers off that because those speakers will be essentially providing rear fill, which should not compete with your front splits. Modern radios and head units are putting out a decent 20+Watts RMS so you'll struggle to tell the difference volume wise.

Also with your current setup the effective load that your amplifier is seeing on channel 1 and 2 is now 2ohms instead of 4. Combine that with the bridged sub and your amplifier is going to be working very hard and you might get some heat issues. Would be worthwhile to check if your amp is 2ohm stable per channel. Otherwise you could run into issues with the amp later on. Also moving your rear deck speakers onto the Head unit power will allow you to fade the system and better adjust your staging. Just my 2c

No stress bru, as per previous mention, there will be a new amp in the works, so i did not want to make too many major wiring changes right now, i have already spoken to Yuben about this, so we will be wiring in some new cable and RCA's for the clean up part + new amp

:ty::ty:

 

[ZMC]

Yep, that's the end result. It is a free air setup. The boot serves as the box.
The best part is that boot space is not compromised with a box :chef:

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

Howzit ZMC..

with regard to the "way it looks" yep i can understand where you come from with the "non oem" look, however

to conserve the most amount of boot space and still have a decent install an IB setup is the best,

please let us know if you have seen one of these setup's in person, then i can maybe take your input from there, as it makes a whole lot more sense when you see it up close, maybe the picture is not doing enough of justice,

maybe have a look at this install..

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=45273

or this

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=44815


let me know your thoughts... keep in mind, us BMW drivers are still young at heart, and love the thrill of Speed and some Sound...

if it were my car, I would prefer a cleaner look, i.e no screws sticking out. Perhaps cover the speaker in the same material as the boot.

 

[Yuben]

Ok. But are you satisfied with the way that looks???

I take it u not happy with the look :cartel:

I got no problem with it as I need my boot space.

Well if we being honest here, not really.
That would piss me off knowing my boot looked like that. I would pull out my hair and eat it. How could that not piss you off??? Rather remove it and keep it OEM dude. For the sake of this community.
Do the right thing.

Howzit ZMC..

with regard to the "way it looks" yep i can understand where you come from with the "non oem" look, however

to conserve the most amount of boot space and still have a decent install an IB setup is the best,

please let us know if you have seen one of these setup's in person, then i can maybe take your input from there, as it makes a whole lot more sense when you see it up close, maybe the picture is not doing enough of justice,

maybe have a look at this install..

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=45273

or this

http://www.bmwfanatics.co.za/showthread.php?tid=44815


let me know your thoughts... keep in mind, us BMW drivers are still young at heart, and love the thrill of Speed and some Sound...

if it were my car, I would prefer a cleaner look, i.e no screws sticking out. Perhaps cover the speaker in the same material as the boot.

It is a free air sub application, therefore the sub needs to breathe as well. Covering the sub is NOT an option.
For the neatness u looking for, it's best for you the use the box application :=):

 

[Yuben]

Ah okay, now I understand what you've done :coolShake:

Has the in dash dvd player/head unit not got a built in amplifier? I'd advise running the rear coax speakers off that because those speakers will be essentially providing rear fill, which should not compete with your front splits. Modern radios and head units are putting out a decent 20+Watts RMS so you'll struggle to tell the difference volume wise.

Also with your current setup the effective load that your amplifier is seeing on channel 1 and 2 is now 2ohms instead of 4. Combine that with the bridged sub and your amplifier is going to be working very hard and you might get some heat issues. Would be worthwhile to check if your amp is 2ohm stable per channel. Otherwise you could run into issues with the amp later on. Also moving your rear deck speakers onto the Head unit power will allow you to fade the system and better adjust your staging. Just my 2c

Good advice there Zound,. U r definitely right abt the amp heating up. Just discussed it with Spiro this week.

There's nothing wrong with the setup. The biggest problem at this stage is the amp that is the limitation.