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BMW 135i 60 ROLL Build (THE MONSTER)
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General.Massacre
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Great news on the crank Dax,
Both parties (BMW and Engine builder) should take accountability now and get this sorted (Perfect world scenario unfortunately).
Keep unformed bud, i believe with eveything sorted, your car will be unmatched. keen to see this unfold further
Both parties (BMW and Engine builder) should take accountability now and get this sorted (Perfect world scenario unfortunately).
Keep unformed bud, i believe with eveything sorted, your car will be unmatched. keen to see this unfold further
Dax
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I agree, unfortunately the builder still insists it is not his problem. I am just waiting on documentation that the crank was replaced under warranty due to factory default and that will give me what I need to take on the engine builder.
This will prove he did not measure or he does not know how to use a micrometer and that he should pay for all other parts and labor.
General.Massacre
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Agreed, regardless of whether the Crank was correct or not, the engine builder should of done all relevant measurements and clearance checks with plastiguage and made sure it was all within spec. this has already been stated so wont go into the detail again.
Good luck, once that documentation is provided, you have full ammo to fight the battle.
Good luck, once that documentation is provided, you have full ammo to fight the battle.
Dax
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I think any engine builder would have realized it was too big if they just followed the basics of engine building.
Top builders don't rely on Plastigauge they rely on measuring each component and doing a little bit of math to work out clearances that said most use plastigauge to double check their calculations and for peace of mind.
I am just glad BMW came to the party and gave me a new crank, they made it clear that the rest is on the builder and I agree with that.
Unfortunately some people think if they have a snapon torque wrench and a stretch gauge they are engine builders,
I am a person that takes peoples word, if they tell me they can do X Y Z I believe them, I need to change and stop paying for some dip shits school fees.
This guy F up two N54 in the space of a couple of weeks, it is a shame these cars are fantastic we just don't have the skillset like the Americans have, well not in Cape Town anyway.
I do believe we have very good engine builders in Cape Town and South Africa, I just cant find them and a lot do not want to work on these motors.
Check these companies:
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Dax
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I have spoken to:
Freddie Fast developments, he is closed until next year and said he is very busy
Boetie Budler motorsports, he wants the whole car and he will do it, I wish I had the budget
Sherwin, Williams engine builders. consider him a friend and don't want to kill the relationship but he is willing to help
Warren, Stealth engineering, mainly does V8's he doesn't really want to work on these motors, he is busy with a 2JZ so I might twist his arm and get the input from Sherwin
If anyone can give me input please let me know, I don't really want to send the motor to JHB unless I take it myself and that wont happen.
Freddie Fast developments, he is closed until next year and said he is very busy
Boetie Budler motorsports, he wants the whole car and he will do it, I wish I had the budget
Sherwin, Williams engine builders. consider him a friend and don't want to kill the relationship but he is willing to help
Warren, Stealth engineering, mainly does V8's he doesn't really want to work on these motors, he is busy with a 2JZ so I might twist his arm and get the input from Sherwin
If anyone can give me input please let me know, I don't really want to send the motor to JHB unless I take it myself and that wont happen.
osiris
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The problem with South Africans is they like to form little cult followings of their mechanics. So you will notice lots of politics on forums with regards to guys who sell turbos or rebuild them and guys who fit mods and do tuning etc. So when they F up, their little cult following will praise their name and protect them saying they can do no wrong! It's typical south African mentality and it's why these clowns get away with destroying peoples engines and magically keep their good name! They have cult protection!I think any engine builder would have realized it was too big if they just followed the basics of engine building.
Top builders don't rely on Plastigauge they rely on measuring each component and doing a little bit of math to work out clearances that said most use plastigauge to double check their calculations and for peace of mind.
I am just glad BMW came to the party and gave me a new crank, they made it clear that the rest is on the builder and I agree with that.
Unfortunately some people think if they have a snapon torque wrench and a stretch gauge they are engine builders,
I am a person that takes peoples word, if they tell me they can do X Y Z I believe them, I need to change and stop paying for some dip shits school fees.
This guy F up two N54 in the space of a couple of weeks, it is a shame these cars are fantastic we just don't have the skillset like the Americans have, well not in Cape Town anyway.
I do believe we have very good engine builders in Cape Town and South Africa, I just cant find them and a lot do not want to work on these motors.
Check these companies:
(@cylindersupportsystem) • Instagram photos and videos
54K Followers, 2,421 Following, 2,188 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from (@cylindersupportsystem)
Billiam Mason (@b_mase_monkey) • Instagram photos and videos
12K Followers, 3,144 Following, 5,096 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Billiam Mason (@b_mase_monkey)
The other major problem is even if people that follow them like sheep can see they F'kd up they don't speak up cause they worried they can't get the parts elsewhere or get frowned upon by everyone else that follows that guy. Or they get parts for cheap from that person and don't want to loose that luxury so they rather turn a blind eye. In fact when you speak up and let people know what they did you end up looking like the doos at the end of the day as the cult name and shame you instead of the doos who broke your motor!
osiris
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I strongly suggest not taking your car to a "friend" to get fixed because it will destroy the relationship and you will get the "I am working on a customers car at the moment, let me get the customers cars out the way then I can spend some time on yours"
The only way to work with a friend on a car is if you are both doing it for the passion of it and there is no cash transaction involved. As soon as money is involved and it's a friend then "they are doing you a favor" and you will always come last on the list.
The best way to go about this is find someone who is not a friend or a family friend who is doing this for you at the correct price "No favors"
They absolutely know wtf they doing and you DO NOT PAY UP FRONT!
Once you pay up front for a service to be rendered its game over, you will wait an age and the job will be done badly as they have nothing to work for as they have the cash already! The job will also take twice as long and once the clown has spent the money he will find other shit that needs to be done that you will then need to pay for on top of the cash you already sent him. NEVER pay upfront. If they need cash for parts then they are not a professional business. Any professional successful business will have the cash on hand to complete the job without you having to pay for all the parts up front. I mean they have your car, if you don't pay them they can just keep your car!
Anyway this is how I operate these days. I have been screwed over too many times in the past cause of this kind of nonsense.
Dax
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100% Luckily I have all the parts it is just the labor.
I might twist the arms of Warren and Sherwin and we do it together.
Shit goes wrong, its how you fix it what makes the difference
Dax
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100%
i cannot agree more with this. The most solid advice here.
Dax
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I just wish I could find a local builder that I could trust
I have all parts needed and rotating assembly has been balanced (New rods and new crank) ready to go.
If any one can suggest a builder I would appreciate it.
That looks good...
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osiris
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I have heard some good things about @Peter@AEW he is a forum advertiser, check some of his work out and maybe give him a call. I have not used him personally myself however I probably would in this situation. I know you said you don’t really want to send the motor to jhb but in a situation like this it might be the best option? Costs involved in doing this I am unsure of however it might be worth the trip?
individj
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Was good meeting you yesterday Dax...think id talk to you for hours...oldschool passionate car head...this car is unbelievable...well done man its a dream. Thanks for the parts and positive vibrations with everything....i wonder if there are any hub dynos in cape town...
Dax
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Thanks mate, Its nice to meet people with the same values and passion.
I have not heard of any Hub dyno's, I will be updating this thread in a few weeks time hopefully with some great news, I don't want to get ahead of myself LOL.
