anile8-zn said:
Tashens' stock and chipped runs were done in the same gear, as can be seen by the duration of the runs. His wheel power gain was 21.9kw. But Zeemax printed the flywheel reading as per normal.
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Tashens' stock and chipped runs were done in the same gear, as can be seen by the duration of the runs. His wheel power gain was 21.9kw. But Zeemax printed the flywheel reading as per normal.
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one hit wonders happen , reffer to my above post about mods and monday cars.
i have seen over 30 m3's at odr , only maybe 5 have made less than 300 bhp atw
ryans z4m makes 322
sherwin's z4m makes 318
i have seen over 30 m3's at odr , only maybe 5 have made less than 300 bhp atw
ryans z4m makes 322
sherwin's z4m makes 318
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sorry boet please reffer to the grpah in question
the stock run is shorter than the chipped run
also the sw cant print what it feels like , if it was a flywheel run then it prints flywheel
if wheels then it prints only as ambient correction
so i guess i hold the hyper power dyno record for most powerful 335i in dbn
man that rocks
boned craigs car started from 270 to 300
270 is as much as a ko3 gti with all bolt ons makes there
mohamed desai made 270 on that dyno
something very wrong with that m
the stock run is shorter than the chipped run
also the sw cant print what it feels like , if it was a flywheel run then it prints flywheel
if wheels then it prints only as ambient correction
so i guess i hold the hyper power dyno record for most powerful 335i in dbn
man that rocks
boned craigs car started from 270 to 300
270 is as much as a ko3 gti with all bolt ons makes there
mohamed desai made 270 on that dyno
something very wrong with that m
anile8-zn said:
That shows you lack of knowledge. Those are old spec cars. They make that power. I can't control how much power a car comes in with. This is ridiculous. These are not LED spec M3's. Tashen's is the only LED spec and at the dyno day the strongest stock LED spec made 220kw. So his is in line with the other LED"s and yet he gained over 20 WHEEL Kw.
anile8-zn said:
I have posted several graphs all with gains. We hold the records at the tracks with some of these cars. My evidence is before and after grpahs with gains with the same CF. Where is your evidence. This is a one-sided argument.
anile8-zn said:and not on a serious of modded or monday cars
can u imagine that frc 1kw = 24 xcede kw
imagine when u do the decat daren , then u will be faster than the 24kw chipped m3's
Your brain still doesn't comprehend that no 2 cars are the same. You are comparing LED spec to old spec. We will be doing an LED at KAR soon. Then we shall see the gains.
Anile, I still don't see graphs from the FRC camp with gains. 1kw on Darren's car is not a gain.
anile8-zn said:
Who cares what you saw. The car came in on XXX power. Craigs is an old spec. At the dyno day there were stock E46 M3's making 280hp. Check the results. Any comments on that? On an uncorrected dyno you can't compare results from differnt days. You compare on the same day.
And on the same day, Craig gained 30hp. You can shout and scream as much as you want, it gained 30hp uncorrected with ODR dynoing.
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oh no......
not again...
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Why do ppl make issues of everything... :mmm:
not again...
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Why do ppl make issues of everything... :mmm:
BonedM3 said:
I think it was 308hp, old spec so not as great cams as you have. I'm not sure of the exact number, you have to ask the ODR guys.
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so if i read u right
an led m3 should make 193ish at kar
ergo , if u do infact gain 24kw atw
the car should make 217 kw atw
am i following u right ,
but i guess next u will telll me that no 2 cars can make the same power
ok i will settle for a measely 15 kw atw gain
thats 208kw atw
so i guess poor rads wasted his money
he has an led spec car and makes 215kw atw
cams and decat , induction added less than 10kw going on your logic
an led m3 should make 193ish at kar
ergo , if u do infact gain 24kw atw
the car should make 217 kw atw
am i following u right ,
but i guess next u will telll me that no 2 cars can make the same power
ok i will settle for a measely 15 kw atw gain
thats 208kw atw
so i guess poor rads wasted his money
he has an led spec car and makes 215kw atw
cams and decat , induction added less than 10kw going on your logic
anile8-zn said:
My word, you using the info I showed you to act like you know something. When in fact you know nothing. I taught you about the duration of the runs, and I can even show you the post.
But your igorance is amazing. The car was revved higher. That's why the run took longer. I was trying to point out that the runs were in the same gear, but looking at the duration. A higher gear takes 2.5 times to complete the run. Bookmark that to use against me next time.
The wheel gain was over 20kw. the flywheel gain (on the printer graph) was 24kw.
anile8-zn said:
It was a very hot day and it is old spec. The power is right.
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I have a 2005 with LED, new spec ///E46 M3, BONE STOCK with +- 85 000kms
Just putting it out there....:thinker:
Guys, at the end of the day, whatever software the guys choose, they will happy with what they get as it is their choice.
No use arguing overs gains and graphs etc.
Just makes it harder for us consumers........
Just putting it out there....:thinker:
Guys, at the end of the day, whatever software the guys choose, they will happy with what they get as it is their choice.
No use arguing overs gains and graphs etc.
Just makes it harder for us consumers........
M_POW said:
Jealousy. On a thread that has nothing to do with them. Sit in their corner and criticise people that are showing genuine gains. When they gain 1kw. And Oscar runs slower times chipped than stock and flashed his car back to stock.
AryM said:
Can you go to KAR tomorrow and get a base run. This sh1t ends tomorrow. I hope your car doesn't make low power stock, 'cos then it will be my fault.
Hi guys...can i make a suggestion...i realise we are all very emotive when it comes to the //M brand and we ALL have lots of experience with the various M3's including the //V8M...and our experiences are often different....
This thread could be very useful indeed so...
....i am just making a plea for us to keep our cool and not to make our comments too personal...Sherwin from your side Okay on this?...i have major respect for all your views and would not want to miss the good ideas in the heated exchanges...what do you guys think?
This thread could be very useful indeed so...
....i am just making a plea for us to keep our cool and not to make our comments too personal...Sherwin from your side Okay on this?...i have major respect for all your views and would not want to miss the good ideas in the heated exchanges...what do you guys think?
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i noticed , man u have sharp wit , razor sharp
anile8-zn said:
just got off the phone with Andre. Stock E46's in hot condutions make around 270hp, old spec. New spec can make more. If its cold then can get more. That's not the point your brian isnot comprehending. It's all about the gain on the same day, a few hours apart.
Allow me to prove to everyone your ignorance.
http://opc.forumup.co.za/viewtopic.php?t=3750&mforum=opc
6 CYLINDER N/A M3
338.2 RADESH BMW M3
311.0 MAHEN BMW M3
302.0 RAAZ BMW M3
300.6 JOEY BMW M3
294.5 LLEWELLYN BMW M3
267.0 KERSEN BMW M3
239.0 RICS BMW M3
Mahen, Raaz, Llerellyn and Joey are modded E46 M3's. KErsen is stock old spec.
Mahen's car was prepped and driven there by Cleo. Fully modded.
So Craig's stock run of 267hp is in line.
Oscar and Darren. Read what I am saying. I am providing proof in the form of dyno day results. That is what E46 M3's make on that dyno. Craig has an E46 M3. We took his car from 267 to over 300hp. Enough with this bull. Go to ODR tomorrow and ask them. Why do you guys criticise when I am providing the proof.
AryM said:
Shane's fans are too small for 4th gear. Despite what the experts on here say, the car will pull hectic timing in 4th. 4th gear goes to 230km/h and the car expects that amount of cooling air. all M3's are dyno'd in 3rd at SNail and KAR. IT doesn't matter what gear it is, as long as it's the same gear for the before and after runs.
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i think kersens car was a 4 dr e36
i know llewleyn personally he was a decat and nothing else and he has the old spec m3
joey's car is bone stock
i am in dbn i know most of these guys
and this was a different day different temps
anycase do it again just for an encore
get ary a 24kw atw gain
i know llewleyn personally he was a decat and nothing else and he has the old spec m3
joey's car is bone stock
i am in dbn i know most of these guys
and this was a different day different temps
anycase do it again just for an encore
get ary a 24kw atw gain
anile8-zn said:
That's a good theory of what if? But that's not necessary. Radesh made 260hp with chip. So no need to guess. You see, no 2 cars are the same.
BonedM3 said:
Maybe you can go find somebody with a reasonable IQ out there and point them to this thread. This thick-headed mentality is just plain tiresome to argue against. It's like arguing with a retard.
Ok can I explain this to you.
Your car is up there with cars gaining 24kw.
And you gained 1 kw.
Step back and this about what you are posting. Did you formulate an objective when you made that post? Ar eyou trying to say your car is superfast.
Because it is. It makes awesome power.
But, and here's the killer. It gained 1kw.
These other cars gained 24kw.
Why you may ask? Well because the pre-LED spec cars have inferior hardware. And within the parameters we tune with, they are inconsistent and we have more room to gain.
So my point? We are providing a service to our customers and gaining them 24kw with inferior cams, head, ECU whatever else BMW changed. Your car may end up with the same power, but it started off 23ke higher than them. Can you not understand this? What goes through your mind when you post a statement like that?
now Sherwin, why get your panties in a knot, i was simply asking a question, 229hp for a stock 4 pipe is damn weak, stock e36 m3s make that on our dyno.....and last time i checked our dyno reads lower than KAR...
is all the M3s u guys tuning making below 230HP......? darrens car makes 249hp stock on our dyno and after the remap he made about 253hp, peak power shifted to 8100rpms as apposed to before, tuning an m3 is not about making more ponies it also about were u make that power......how about we test both the cars on the road, your 260hp e46 against darrens car?? Darrens e46 M3 came with a good tune from the factory , u not going to get huge gains from that car without hardware......unless u really have a magic stick that can produce miracles......we all are in our learning phase with the M cars, u learn new things with time...we not claiming to best when it comes to aspirated cars , hence my intial question to you...........trust me if i was here for bragging right i will post graphs of turbo cars that we do everyday with huge gains......when u ready to race darrens frc M3 with software against your software alone car let me know......dyno figure mean jack, lets see how the car performs on the road
is all the M3s u guys tuning making below 230HP......? darrens car makes 249hp stock on our dyno and after the remap he made about 253hp, peak power shifted to 8100rpms as apposed to before, tuning an m3 is not about making more ponies it also about were u make that power......how about we test both the cars on the road, your 260hp e46 against darrens car?? Darrens e46 M3 came with a good tune from the factory , u not going to get huge gains from that car without hardware......unless u really have a magic stick that can produce miracles......we all are in our learning phase with the M cars, u learn new things with time...we not claiming to best when it comes to aspirated cars , hence my intial question to you...........trust me if i was here for bragging right i will post graphs of turbo cars that we do everyday with huge gains......when u ready to race darrens frc M3 with software against your software alone car let me know......dyno figure mean jack, lets see how the car performs on the road
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