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The impressive Rowen....
Now where are the gains on E36's
Now where are the gains on E36's
Anile...pity we did not know you were around. I had some fun runs on saturday night...then hooked up with Rissipit and PMAC at the waterfront for very late night party:thumbsup:
Car goes in for its first dealer service tomorrow, so won't be able to show off while you are still around :thumbsup:...but would like to see you anyway...just PM'd my number....will see if freerider can join us
Car goes in for its first dealer service tomorrow, so won't be able to show off while you are still around :thumbsup:...but would like to see you anyway...just PM'd my number....will see if freerider can join us
I am sure sherwin has an answer.
Mine is: It is irrelevant.
2. It would be difficult to give an indication if one cannot compare the readings directly...i.e. at which point on the graphs do they criscross?
3. Are the readings all stock readings which are being compared?
4. Same cars/same dyno/same day...? All these will have a bearing on the reading.
Mine is: It is irrelevant.
2. It would be difficult to give an indication if one cannot compare the readings directly...i.e. at which point on the graphs do they criscross?
3. Are the readings all stock readings which are being compared?
4. Same cars/same dyno/same day...? All these will have a bearing on the reading.
Nukleuz said:
Yes there is. This graph is kw over NM. You probably had horsepower over NM.
nsaneM3 said:
This would be the best gain at KAR sir:
229hp to 260hp. Software alone, no hardware.
nsaneM3 said:
He made 190.8kw or 256hp. And his gain was 1kw. Or was that half a kw. Are you asking me about how much kw we gain? Because you are braggin about a 1kw gain. Maybe you are bragging that Darren's car is strong to start with. But seeing as you are a tuning company I don't think you mean to brag that BMW did such a good job when the car left the factory that it makes 191kw stock. I think a tuning company would like to brag about the gains, not what the car makes stock. But I don't know, maybe you are different.
nsaneM3 said:
Actually you are wrong there buddy. We gained 30hp on the wheels at sea-level independently dyno'd. And we do it over and over again. There is a magic stick. The S54 is gaining more than the V8's and V10's with software only. It's something we uncovered recently and I was kidding about the magic stick. It's just simple tuning. If you change the fuelling only then yeah you will gain 1kw. You have to do more than that.
If you don't believe me then I don't give a sh1t. I log every car in front of the customer and gain over 25g/s time after time. It is real. These are the gains we are getting. Either accept it or be a non-believer & stay in the corner. We will continue to provide the proof with the graphs and times. You don't have to post in this thread if you want to discredit us. Just ignore and don't open it.
Sherwin@Xcede said:
Hey Sher how come all the S54’s you are doing seem to be dogs? Shane himself will tell you that they normally make over 243hp on his dyno.
I have owned 3 cars with S54, a 2009 Z4 M coupe, made 184kw on KAR
A 2005 E46 M 184kw atw stock, 190kw with FRC
Current E46 M 193kw atw stock and the same with FRC, holds the power all the way to 8400rpm
I would like to see you make 24kw on my car from stock
The threashold on that motor with software only is about 193 to 195kw max
Sherwin@Xcede said:Nukleuz said:
Yes there is. This graph is kw over NM. You probably had horsepower over NM.
nsaneM3 said:
This would be the best gain at KAR sir:
229hp to 260hp. Software alone, no hardware.
nsaneM3 said:
He made 190.8kw or 256hp. And his gain was 1kw. Or was that half a kw. Are you asking me about how much kw we gain? Because you are braggin about a 1kw gain. Maybe you are bragging that Darren's car is strong to start with. But seeing as you are a tuning company I don't think you mean to brag that BMW did such a good job when the car left the factory that it makes 191kw stock. I think a tuning company would like to brag about the gains, not what the car makes stock. But I don't know, maybe you are different.
nsaneM3 said:
Actually you are wrong there buddy. We gained 30hp on the wheels at sea-level independently dyno'd. And we do it over and over again. There is a magic stick. The S54 is gaining more than the V8's and V10's with software only. It's something we uncovered recently and I was kidding about the magic stick. It's just simple tuning. If you change the fuelling only then yeah you will gain 1kw. You have to do more than that.
If you don't believe me then I don't give a sh1t. I log every car in front of the customer and gain over 25g/s time after time. It is real. These are the gains we are getting. Either accept it or be a non-believer & stay in the corner. We will continue to provide the proof with the graphs and times. You don't have to post in this thread if you want to discredit us. Just ignore and don't open it.
I thought we always took our best figures, 2 days before my car made 258hp….and the other E46 you did has de cat also. I saw Rowen posting he has de cat on the carsforum
tashen@Xcede said:
LOL
You might break my motor trying to do that. 193 + 24=217kw
Rads car with cams and all other hardware mods makes less and you want to make more with my car with just software.
No thanks, you can do R&D on your current cars
and here is the post by the owner stating that the car has de cat..
"Not sure...seeing that the Decatt was done a couple of days prior to the software, maybe some type of induction is next up, but given that I feel the stock pan filter seems to hold up better than the likes of the K&N / BCM pan filters...its going to take some convincing to go the full induction route..."
http://www.carforums.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19582
BonedM3 said:
Maybe you need to read before you post. That is not Rowen's car. That is a DIFFERENT car. IT made 260 with no decatt. More than your car. With no decatt. And it's the old spec which makes less power.
BonedM3 said:
Shane is not an expert on the S54. The ones I have dyno'd are old spec, pre-LED. They make less power. But what are your cronies trying to imply here? The cars made that power. Shane dyno'd it. What does that have to do with anything? You know from realOEM that the LED spec has different part numebrs for the cams. At the dyno days at Snail I notice the old specs's dyno about 175 and the LED spec about 185kw. If you want to insinuate anything, so investigations first. I can't control what the car comes in with. That dyno I posted ot that M3 (NO IT's NOT ROWEN'S CAR), I wasn't even there. Both for the stock and chipped runs. I was not present and the car gained 30hp.
BonedM3 said:
I'm happy for you. Those are all LED spec with the new cams. Post your graph please. I want to see the gains and the peak on KAR. We posted a few of ours. Instead of acting like jealous children and criticising, post your graph. I dare you.
BonedM3 said:
Who told you that? The VAG N75 experts? Or are you the expert. That is not the threshold. You know nothing about S54 tuning, and neither do your D&G gods.
And BTW we wouldn't do any R&D on your car. All the R&D is done already. But I wouldn't be interested in doing anything for any of your cars anyway. Cheers, we'll have a dop next time.
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tashen@Xcede said:
This just got interesting !!!
Do i take it as been a CHALLENGE !!!
This myself and a few others got to see.
Got balls there to do the above statements. :thumbsup:
I am with Tashen and Sherwin on this issue...i am not in the M3 tuning game...my only interest is the twin turbo cars...but i have seen different softwares producing very different results on the same car...so i will not be surprised if they do break the "expected ' threshold safely with their software...and which i hope :thumbsup:
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tashen@Xcede said:
This just got interesting !!!
Do i take it as been a CHALLENGE !!!
This myself and a few others got to see.
Got balls there to do the above statements. :thumbsup:
///MOS1TED said:
We will do it. With anotherf LED spec car. We have already done Tashen's car and gained 25g's airflow.
BonedM3 said:
Not on KAR.
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