Bugger said:I know my M3 isn't the fastest car in the world, and there are lots of worked and tuned cars that will beat me.....BUT,as a complete package,I think there is VERY little that can match it. And the cool thing is,yes,the buying price is high,but you get a lot of car for your money without having to do much,if anything at all.
So what it costs someone to buy an S3,tune it and maintain it,he may as well have bought an M3 to start with.
Pho3niX90 said:Bugger said:I know my M3 isn't the fastest car in the world, and there are lots of worked and tuned cars that will beat me.....BUT,as a complete package,I think there is VERY little that can match it. And the cool thing is,yes,the buying price is high,but you get a lot of car for your money without having to do much,if anything at all.
So what it costs someone to buy an S3,tune it and maintain it,he may as well have bought an M3 to start with.
And at least you will be able to control the car on high speeds with one hand on the wheel, like to see a shoe box sized car that's tuned do that.
Bugger said:Pho3niX90 said:Bugger said:I know my M3 isn't the fastest car in the world, and there are lots of worked and tuned cars that will beat me.....BUT,as a complete package,I think there is VERY little that can match it. And the cool thing is,yes,the buying price is high,but you get a lot of car for your money without having to do much,if anything at all.
So what it costs someone to buy an S3,tune it and maintain it,he may as well have bought an M3 to start with.
And at least you will be able to control the car on high speeds with one hand on the wheel, like to see a shoe box sized car that's tuned do that.
Lol,ain't that the truth..... The S3 isn't Quattro is it? So when it's tuned, there must be some hectic torque steer on that thing.
dvst8 said:Bugger said:Pho3niX90 said:Bugger said:I know my M3 isn't the fastest car in the world, and there are lots of worked and tuned cars that will beat me.....BUT,as a complete package,I think there is VERY little that can match it. And the cool thing is,yes,the buying price is high,but you get a lot of car for your money without having to do much,if anything at all.
So what it costs someone to buy an S3,tune it and maintain it,he may as well have bought an M3 to start with.
And at least you will be able to control the car on high speeds with one hand on the wheel, like to see a shoe box sized car that's tuned do that.
Lol,ain't that the truth..... The S3 isn't Quattro is it? So when it's tuned, there must be some hectic torque steer on that thing.
S3 is Quattro.
My Cupra is stable at speeds in excess of 250 km/h.
:thumbs:
MikeR said:I wonder if this guy says the same about an RS4 - his RS3 must trash them also - I hope he mentions that on the forum.
Bugger said:Agreed about the loss of power. Although these M's are still blisteringly quick at altitude. The loss of power on my RS4 was huge compared to the M, but you have to take into account the weight of the Quattro system and the issues regarding carbon buildup on the valves in those FSi motors, and it adds up. A stock RS4, on the wheels in good health is supposed to be doing around 190kw... on a motor that at the flywheel is doing somewhere around 309kw.
tcal69 said:Bugger said:Agreed about the loss of power. Although these M's are still blisteringly quick at altitude. The loss of power on my RS4 was huge compared to the M, but you have to take into account the weight of the Quattro system and the issues regarding carbon buildup on the valves in those FSi motors, and it adds up. A stock RS4, on the wheels in good health is supposed to be doing around 190kw... on a motor that at the flywheel is doing somewhere around 309kw.
I raced a friend of mine RS4 with chip and exhaust against my stock e92 M3... That's just say he doesn't want to be my friend anymore:roflol:
Bugger said::rollsmile::biglol:
I got a similar response when I nailed my mate in his RS4, he was just a bit more gracious in defeat than I expected. I think the M3 is highly under estimated, certainly from what I have experienced driving mine the last couple of weeks, but it is still the benchmark in that segment.
tcal69 said:Bugger said:Agreed about the loss of power. Although these M's are still blisteringly quick at altitude. The loss of power on my RS4 was huge compared to the M, but you have to take into account the weight of the Quattro system and the issues regarding carbon buildup on the valves in those FSi motors, and it adds up. A stock RS4, on the wheels in good health is supposed to be doing around 190kw... on a motor that at the flywheel is doing somewhere around 309kw.
I raced a friend of mine RS4 with chip and exhaust against my stock e92 M3... That's just say he doesn't want to be my friend anymore:roflol:
Bugger said:When I had mine,I never got the opportunity against a V8 M, even an E46 M. I was pretty much on par with an ISF, but I do realise now that I wouldn't have stood a chance against a V8 M3 in my Audi. That's why I am not so convinced about the initial post and this S3 dishing it out to the M3, other than it being a VERY short distance.