Vishnu / Proceed tuners

Nukleuz

Well-known member
Hi all,

My brothers 135i has proceed software.
It was tuned by the guy who owned the car himself.

We had it on the dyno the other day, and the graph is not
very smooth. Is there anyone here that tunes with this software
or knows of someone that does?

Obviously not looking for a freebee.

TIA
 

outlaw335

Active member
I was having this conversation the other day.Unfortunately when it comes to tuners (not all,but most),if you dont have their product,they basically dont give a s**t about you and are not even willing to have a look.

I have a jb4 and im not trying to sing anyone's praises but when i do have a problem,Rennzport and bms provide excellent support,sometimes even with non jb4 related enquiries.Wish there were more out here in jozi that are willing to advise and tune your car no matter what software you have.There's money to be made as well so i really don't understand that mentality..

I hope you come right buddy,cant give much advice about procede but im sure theres plenty guys here that can help you out.Burgy is another guy that always willing to help.Goodluck!

 

bybyM3

Member
i am not a tunner but have some knowledge, send me your graph and some logs and i will get back to you.

By the way what was the smoothing factor on the dyno.
 

Baracus

New member
Nukleuz said:
Hi all,

My brothers 135i has proceed software.
It was tuned by the guy who owned the car himself.

We had it on the dyno the other day, and the graph is not
very smooth. Is there anyone here that tunes with this software
or knows of someone that does?

Obviously not looking for a freebee.

TIA
- What version Procede has your bother got, V5 Rev2 or Rev3?
- What maps is he running?
- Has he connected a laptop and checked for codes or done any logs?
- What other mods are installed
- Is this at the reef or the coast?
- N54 or N55?

Sounds like he might be running too much boost if the graph is not smooth

 

Nukleuz

Well-known member
@Baracus


- What version Procede has your bother got, V5 Rev2 or Rev3?
Its proceed Rev3.

- What maps is he running?
He is running on map 1 which was set up for normal pump gas,
He also dyno'd with map 2 when he was running 98 ron.


- Has he connected a laptop and checked for codes or done any logs?
have not done this yet, We not very technical so don't want to get too
busy with that.


- What other mods are installed
It has a Cold air intake, down pipe, and BMW sports exhaust

- Is this at the reef or the coast?
We are at the reef


- N54 or N55?
Its an N55


@i8am3

Where are you based?
 

Baracus

New member
Nukleuz said:
@Baracus


- What version Procede has your bother got, V5 Rev2 or Rev3?
Its proceed Rev3.

- What maps is he running?
He is running on map 1 which was set up for normal pump gas,
He also dyno'd with map 2 when he was running 98 ron.


- Has he connected a laptop and checked for codes or done any logs?
have not done this yet, We not very technical so don't want to get too
busy with that.


- What other mods are installed
It has a Cold air intake, down pipe, and BMW sports exhaust

- Is this at the reef or the coast?
We are at the reef


- N54 or N55?
Its an N55


@i8am3

Where are you based?


Rev3 is good as u have added fueling and additional functionality
Changing between Map 1 & 2 only means u engage between the 2 currently loaded maps/software (1 = conservative, 2 = race), what map software version are u running? For the N55 I think the latest version is "N55 V5 11-08" (see this link http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n55/downloads/downloads.html)
Unfortunately u will need to learn how to log if u want the maps to run properly, as u need to set the boost. On pump fuel with your mods, I wouldn't suggest anything more than 14.5psi given u at the reef and considering our poor fuel quality. U could maybe push to 15psi, but only logs will tell u its safe to do so. U can quickly see if its knocking by looking at the timing curve (lots of info on the international E90 forum: http://e90post.com/forums/)

Nevertheless if you not keen on going the DIY route, then I would highly recommend u contact Sherwin from Xcede as he can help u with the Procede on an N55. Lastly u should seriously look into runnning water meths considering our altitude, makes the timing curve as smooth as silk:thumbs: I have been running 18.5 psi which pulls like a freight train! However I would wait until Vishnu release a trunk mount meths kit as I have still been battling with the meths boiling at our high altitude with a windscreen wiper tank setup (see my other thread) Anyways my car is back to stock as I have to take in for a service, man am I missing that power :cry:

 

outlaw335

Active member
Baracus have you tried logging ob and meth? Im curious to know what that combination does to the timing?
 

Baracus

New member
outlaw335 said:
Baracus have you tried logging ob and meth? Im curious to know what that combination does to the timing?
Haven't tried logging OB & Meths together, although I don't think the OB will make much of a difference. Running a high meths ratio such as 70/30 timing advances timing to between 10-15 degrees and it stays there. As you can see from the below log, slight dip at 3500rpms but from there on almost a straight line. Also check those air intake temps, I think I'm addicted to meths :rollsmile:

Only problem now is that my stock turbo's are running out of boost in the higher RPM's. With OB or 100% meths, I can perhaps up the boost slightly under 5000 but in the higher rpm's boost duty cycle is maxed which means u can't adjust the wastegates anymore in order to deliver additional boost, despite what boost curve the map may be following. At our altitude the stock turbo's simply run out of air. Pity Vishnu have not yet considered a single turbo setup for RHD cars, unfortunately the damn steering column gets in the way. Guess I'm gonna have to wait until I get some cash together and get the upgraded twin RB turbo's

ProcedemethLog.jpg
 

i8am3

Member
Nukleuz said:
@i8am3

Where are you based?

I am in 4ways and have setup a few N55s with Procede. There are a few settings that need to be done for it to work properly at altitude.

Let me know if you need help:thumbs:
 

outlaw335

Active member
Baracus said:
outlaw335 said:
Baracus have you tried logging ob and meth? Im curious to know what that combination does to the timing?
Haven't tried logging OB & Meths together, although I don't think the OB will make much of a difference. Running a high meths ratio such as 70/30 timing advances timing to between 10-15 degrees and it stays there. As you can see from the below log, slight dip at 3500rpms but from there on almost a straight line. Also check those air intake temps, I think I'm addicted to meths :rollsmile:

Only problem now is that my stock turbo's are running out of boost in the higher RPM's. With OB or 100% meths, I can perhaps up the boost slightly under 5000 but in the higher rpm's boost duty cycle is maxed which means u can't adjust the wastegates anymore in order to deliver additional boost, despite what boost curve the map may be following. At our altitude the stock turbo's simply run out of air. Pity Vishnu have not yet considered a single turbo setup for RHD cars, unfortunately the damn steering column gets in the way. Guess I'm gonna have to wait until I get some cash together and get the upgraded twin RB turbo's

I think so too! Once you hooked onto meth there aint no going back :rollsmile: Nah it is addictive stuff hey.I downed half a 25 litre drum in 3weeks and its only driven on weekends haha.

I think RB turbo's are the way to go.I saw an ad in sns advertising for x35 aftermarket turbo's,not sure what make they are tho,will look into it..
 

fusion01

New member
i8am3 said:
There are a few settings that need to be done for it to work properly at altitude.

May I ask what the outcome is based on these settings made @ altitude, with the car then run at the coast? Would the software need to be recalibrated?
 

i8am3

Member
fusion01 said:
i8am3 said:
There are a few settings that need to be done for it to work properly at altitude.

May I ask what the outcome is based on these settings made @ altitude, with the car then run at the coast? Would the software need to be recalibrated?

The turbo needs to work harder at altitude so start boost and ignition correction needs to be set a bit different. I have seen some tuners setting everything to max which does not work and once I changed the settings the car picked up 20kw more. The waste gate position also needs to be changed for cars at altitude. You have map1 and map2 and can be set for altitude and coast. Depends on what suits you.
 
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