Video: M3 (G80) vs RS5 at the Highveld

[MR_Y]

 

[individj]

 

[shauwn]

holly sh!t hahahahahaha thats kak weg ry lol

 

[Twinz]

So much talking....

 

[MR_Y]

In the UK review videos, where roads were wet, the M3 struggled a bit for grip and the RS5 pulled ahead quicker. But, in the right conditions, that M3/4 is a monster

 

[GoCart]

Maybe if they compared the new RS5 (whenever that comes out) to the G80 M3 it might be a closer race as essentially, this result was inevitable.

 

[shauwn]

Maybe if they compared the new RS5 (whenever that comes out) to the G80 M3 it might be a closer race as essentially, this result was inevitable.

thought this was new one?

 

[shauwn]

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is there a new one?

 

[TurboLlew]

The RS5 is (or was) priced a good R350K lower than the M3/4 currently is from memory. The M3 is cheaper but closer in price to the RS6 at R2M which is a 441kw AWD monster...

Then again options and revised pricing is likely to mean that this will change. I see the Audi site has pricing revisions pending for many models.

 

[shauwn]

But RS5 should be compared to G80 M3 in terms of technical specs..my 2 cents

 

[GoCart]

But RS5 should be compared to G80 M3 in terms of technical specs..my 2 cents

You're probably right, or more like M4 vs RS5, coupe vs coupe, from a class perspective then..

Point is, to compare apples to apples, both needs to be the latest models. I feel the RS5 was more like a banana in this fight.

 

[TurboLlew]

Oh so were are ignoring price again... but when we compare the M3/4 to a non-base 911 the Porsche is in a different price class?

Go through whatever mental gymnastics suit - whether on price or performance these are no longer good value by any stretch of the imagination

 

[TBP88]

Oh so were are ignoring price again... but when we compare the M3/4 to a non-base 911 the Porsche is in a different price class?

Go through whatever mental gymnastics suit - whether on price or performance these are no longer good value by any stretch of the imagination

My thoughts exactly - an M4comp is around R500k over the RS5 base vs base? Wild to compare. But again, literally anyone who buys a new (ugly M4/M3) over a 992 911 really is a special individual. I like BMW plenty and even if the M car was R200 or R300k less. I'd struggle to justify.

 

[shauwn]

lol personally i never look at price when it comes to these type of tests, im the apple vs apply type which i think is fair to a point, coz every car maker's prices are ridiculous from vw straight to porche

Oh so were are ignoring price again... but when we compare the M3/4 to a non-base 911 the Porsche is in a different price class?

Go through whatever mental gymnastics suit - whether on price or performance these are no longer good value by any stretch of the imagination

 

[GoCart]

Oh so were are ignoring price again... but when we compare the M3/4 to a non-base 911 the Porsche is in a different price class?

Go through whatever mental gymnastics suit - whether on price or performance these are no longer good value by any stretch of the imagination

Your view on pricing is a good one for sure. Only reason I didn't comment on price is I suspect a new model RS5 will be priced to suit it's direct rivals.

 

[shauwn]

My thoughts exactly - an M4comp is around R500k over the RS5 base vs base? Wild to compare. But again, literally anyone who buys a new (ugly M4/M3) over a 992 911 really is a special individual. I like BMW plenty and even if the M car was R200 or R300k less. I'd struggle to justify.

eish this ugly M topic is all over, personally even if its ugly (debatable)..M is M its a special division in BMW which is after all on its own if you know what i mean..i do agree on the price theory though its madness!!!

 

[Rayzor]

Oh so were are ignoring price again... but when we compare the M3/4 to a non-base 911 the Porsche is in a different price class?

Go through whatever mental gymnastics suit - whether on price or performance these are no longer good value by any stretch of the imagination

Yeah we can compare the price of an M3 or RS5 to a Porsche, in terms of "buck per performance" and the Porsche wins hands down, but in terms of "buck for practicality" there is nothing better than a family saloon that rivals purpose built sport cars. I'm sure that is how many people justify the spend. Why buy two vehicles, a sports car and family car, when you can buy one with a little bit of best of both worlds.

 

[shauwn]

what i would really like to see from BMW is what porche does with some of their 911's do like a special edition of an old model with all the new technology..G80 Type engine technology in like an e39 m5 type chassis

 

[TurboLlew]

I hear you on the apples vs. apples... but then we have to wait for the apple from Audi to materialise

 

[shauwn]

and also porche will always be wayyyyyy better as they have a super car devision and bmw doesnt, so what ever bevaria brings our porche has a supercar to F it up lol