Trade up/in considerations

[boost3d]

Aim for Porsche , That’s my plan

+1 , that for me is also the dream one day!

Just take into consideration what Llew has said about being safe from Covid, i think we are going to feel the brunt of the economic impact only much further down the line. The company i work for, whilst not retrenching, have already said that we should not expect any salary increases or bonuses ( which were a large part of our packages ) to fall away for atleast two years.

 

[Maljan]

My vote goes to option four. The Z4M is a great car, WTF do you need a new toy for? But that is just me.

 

[GravityLee]

Z4MC to 996T is a downgrade. Been there, done that. I know it doesn’t sound practical, but whatever you decide to get, try to keep the Z4MC. It’s the only car I ever regretted selling.

 

[Eust]

I'd keep the Z4M and......
Especially if you are talking 12 to 18 months horizon. Z4M was the only car I regretted selling as well, and then had to find another. Its a car that will also appreciate IMO and for what you going to get for it now, no brainer to just keep it and save up more in the 12 to 18 months and get whatever else....

 

[Salt]

Why not just do some changes on your current car...a bit of a refresher and maybe a tune? For me, you have a fantastic car and basically wana change it out for another 2 door 2 seater. I would do that. If you're still itching then go for it if the numbers makes 100% sense. You only live once.

 

[rsgordini]

996 turbo or 997 turbo b the latter is m2 comp money. But it’s a distant league in all aspects.

 

[momoPike]

Really been pondering the same. Keen to try a M240i before I settle down and really itching with the current interest rate situation.

Wasn’t looking at Porsches lol but guess that’ll be next in the ladder

 

[TBP88]

Aim for Porsche , That’s my plan

The more I think about it the more a part of me just wants to save more until I can get a *new* Cayman GTS 4.0...

However those options lists are scary - I spec'd my ideal one out and it came to R1.5m... that's base GT4 money.

Oh well, we dream. For now, the Z4M still feels and, to me anyway, looks SO special.

Every time I walk up to the car parked there I get a buzz of joy.

 

[NtandoN]

Porsche FTW!
997.2 would be a great choice but if you're considering the M2 why not look at the 991? For the price of a new M2 you can get a low mileage 991 Carrera S. If it was my money that's what I would consider.

 

[Eust]

Aim for Porsche , That’s my plan

The more I think about it the more a part of me just wants to save more until I can get a *new* Cayman GTS 4.0...

However those options lists are scary - I spec'd my ideal one out and it came to R1.5m... that's base GT4 money.

Oh well, we dream. For now, the Z4M still feels and, to me anyway, looks SO special.

Every time I walk up to the car parked there I get a buzz of joy.

Every time you speak you talk about how special the Z is and thats how you know you should just keep it, maintain it with everything that is needed and drive it more often. Save up and get a newer porsche cayman GTS in 18 to 24 months, rather than buy an old porsche that you dont even know what its been through  :fencelook:

What will you be in for on a Turbo if something catastrophic happens, and then you still in for the 700k + you paid for it, sounds a bit crazy.

 

[individj]

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take my money for that red GT3

 

[TBP88]

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take my money for that red GT3

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Rather save R200k and get one from porsche themselves?

https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for-sale/porsche/911/gt-(996)/25476038

Must be honest the 997.2 just hits the spot (but a manual C2S 997.2 is rare as hell).

It's a big decision and one I can see a lot of guys are sitting on. It's strange, when the E46M3 came out I was about 13, and I recall just how epic a car it was, easily as fast as the 996C2S, about half the price, great looking and well built.

But today an M4 is running a bunch closer to a 911T - and at that money it's hard to buy the BMW unless you really are a BMW purist.

 

[Woodies]

BMW Purists must be having a hard time as BMW don’t seem to cater to petrol heads as much anymore.
As mentioned above, the older M3’s made sense on price point vs performance. Nowadays performance on sooooo many cars is massive, but the feel and excitement differs a lot.
Porsche’s coupes are still proper drivers cars.

 

[mathias]

What advise would you give your younger self?

If I could advise my younger self I would never have sold the car which made me fall in love with driving and by the sounds of it this you with your Z4m, unless you can afford to keep her as well as upgrade then just keep her until you can.

But between your other options I would go for the M2, absolute beauty of a car, not sure how old you are but iv always seen Porsche as an old mans car albeit a great car...

 

[rsgordini]

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take my money for that red GT3

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Rather save R200k and get one from porsche themselves?

https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for-sale/porsche/911/gt-(996)/25476038

Must be honest the 997.2 just hits the spot (but a manual C2S 997.2 is rare as hell).

It's a big decision and one I can see a lot of guys are sitting on. It's strange, when the E46M3 came out I was about 13, and I recall just how epic a car it was, easily as fast as the 996C2S, about half the price, great looking and well built.

But today an M4 is running a bunch closer to a 911T - and at that money it's hard to buy the BMW unless you really are a BMW purist.

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Never compare an m4 with a 911 turbo... the turbo will kill the m4 in all aspects. Even the new carrera is faster but they are at least closer

 

[TBP88]

https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-ba...utm_source=Lifull-connect&utm_medium=referrer

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https://www.cars.co.za/for-sale/use...utm_source=Lifull-connect&utm_medium=referrer

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https://www.surf4cars.co.za/showroo...)-Western-Cape&vehicleid=2913918&ref=showroom

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take my money for that red GT3

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Rather save R200k and get one from porsche themselves?

https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for-sale/porsche/911/gt-(996)/25476038

Must be honest the 997.2 just hits the spot (but a manual C2S 997.2 is rare as hell).

It's a big decision and one I can see a lot of guys are sitting on. It's strange, when the E46M3 came out I was about 13, and I recall just how epic a car it was, easily as fast as the 996C2S, about half the price, great looking and well built.

But today an M4 is running a bunch closer to a 911T - and at that money it's hard to buy the BMW unless you really are a BMW purist.

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Never compare an m4 with a 911 turbo... the turbo will kill the m4 in all aspects. Even the new carrera is faster but they are at least closer

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911T = carrera T, so not the turbo (I think a new turbo is in the R3m range - double an M4!). A carrera T was around 1.6m, a new M4 is around 1.4m. I don't really understand why one would take an M4 given that...

 

[TurboLlew]

It is tempting to measure all these cars on paper but there are 2 things to consider:

1. Porsche community is a strange one and hypes up these odd cars as 'truly pure' or 'last of the breed' etc etc. It happens generation after generation. This isn't Porsche - it is the community itself. The Carrera T is one of those. The one I drove was really REALLY basic and at the end of the day it might be a fun car but you don't want to spend all that money and feel like you're in a budget car. Second.... well it doesn't go all that nicely - rather get your fix from a manual GT4 (even with the auto rev match nonsense). Get a Carrera GTS used rather than a new Carrera T (and it MIGHT hold its value, but don't think any of the current crop are going to appreciate like some of the ones in recent memory - their prices are already dropping as the hype cycles subside). I am not going to go into much more detail but use your head and test drive these things for yourself. I do feel like porsche is the answer at these prices, but don't just disgard the excellent GTS models, C4S etc just because the internet tells you something is more pure or you're not a 'true' something if you don't like it. This isn't a hot hatch you're buying and it is not a small amount of money.

2. Somewhat on this: Go and drive those 7MT cars and then drive a PDK before you write it off. Only the internet will think you are cool and you will have to live with it. Youtubers are paid on views - Throw in phrases like 6MT or Man Pedal and it is clicks, views, likes etc... If you like it good for you. I do like manuals obviously as well and I don't think there has ever been a time without at least 1 manual car in the garage.I have also had a car with what people consider one of the best manual boxes (and manual BMWs, Hondas, Subaru etc) but that doesn't mean that current gen autos can be laughed at like those of the 90s or 2000s or that DCTs are rubbish. Same with the manual M cars though they are good. Don't let people convince you of what you prefer... and it really is a preference. There is a vocal minority of manual lovers (or else it would not be in such rapid decline) that will also accept any half-baked manual which IMHO covers MANY BMW models that haven't had work done on them. If you've driven an S2000 or R33/R34 Skyline you will immediately know what I mean. DCTs are spoken about as swear words - yet everyone who has them loves them... and not just to sit in traffic and not just because they are faster. There is this perception that it removes you from the driving experience, but if you really want to channel your inner rally driver or F1 driver there is arguably no substitute. I would argue that it adds a different dimension. Again it's YOUR choice. These aren't the SMG days or early days of single clutch transmissions or slow changing autos.

 

[momo1]

Ive recently traded up from A Z4 3.0si Coupe to a Z4 M coupe, and I am absolutely delighted, its definitely a future classic and the driving experience is the best I've experienced, I Say keep the M coupe as long as you can. with that being said, the guy I bought mine from upgraded to a Porsche and if im honest that would be my aspiration as well someday...

 

[TBP88]

Ive recently traded up from A Z4 3.0si Coupe to a Z4 M coupe, and I am absolutely delighted, its definitely a future classic and the driving experience is the best I've experienced, I Say keep the M coupe as long as you can. with that being said, the guy I bought mine from upgraded to a Porsche and if im honest that would be my aspiration as well someday...

Where's the new car thread? Love seeing Z4Ms.

I definitely enjoy my Z4M, it is really special, and even though Z4s themselves are pretty dime a dozen, the M does differentiate itself without being gaudy or over the top.

As a kid I also thought more-more-more. But 250kw or so is plenty. I'm not even close to skilled enough to control this car at even 7 tenths.

i think I'll probably wait out the next few quarters and see what comes along. Right now I think taking on *such* a massive financial burden is a bit overboard. But this may be something I revisit more seriously in 6-9months.

 

[individj]

nice one Momo....ja i think we all love them coups but imagine a GT3!!!