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The Mean Greenie - 330d
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Ok, got the car all buttoned up and off to Excede. Unfortunately, got there a little later than I would have liked and they are so busy they can't fit me in, so only Monday now before it will be sorted and I can take the car for a proper drive.
Front bushes replaced, tomorrow afternoon rear bushes will be done, along with the boost pipe which is split and which I taped up to get me to Excede and back.
There only seems to be two major issues now, apart from the downpipe:
1. There is a terrible rattle on switch off which sounds like it's coming from the front of the engine. When the aircon compressor kicks in at idle then it makes a hell of a racket too, but when I rev the engine it disappears. I think it might be the pulley.
2. Sometimes, it's like the starter motor doesn't engage, it can take 3 or 4 times to start. I hope it's not the flywheel.
The engine itself runs sweet and smooth.
Anybody got any ideas about the rattle, please let me know. Where is the most cost effective place to get the damper pulley?
Front bushes replaced, tomorrow afternoon rear bushes will be done, along with the boost pipe which is split and which I taped up to get me to Excede and back.
There only seems to be two major issues now, apart from the downpipe:
1. There is a terrible rattle on switch off which sounds like it's coming from the front of the engine. When the aircon compressor kicks in at idle then it makes a hell of a racket too, but when I rev the engine it disappears. I think it might be the pulley.
2. Sometimes, it's like the starter motor doesn't engage, it can take 3 or 4 times to start. I hope it's not the flywheel.
The engine itself runs sweet and smooth.
Anybody got any ideas about the rattle, please let me know. Where is the most cost effective place to get the damper pulley?
RAArmstrong
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Check with John at Leo Haese PTA... They normally have very competitive pricing on the damper pulleys
Here are some pics of the intake prior to fitting. I did the swirl flap delete:
The swirl flaps were still solid and in good nick, but peace of mind is better knowing that they are not there at all to go wrong.
Car is all running so decided it was time for more cleaning, started off with removing the front wheels again and removed the wheel well liners:
They were rather dirty, so cleaned them twice, but they still not perfect, so will redo them again in the Summer properly. Took the time however to clean behind them properly.
Wheels were also very filthy with some tar deposits so cleaned them too:
Made a start on the interior too-
Before:
After:
Amazing transformation, but I just noticed there is more dirt on the door card again...............
Started with the leather seats too, but cleaning almost 13 years of grime takes some doing. There must be an easier way to do this:
It really took some scrubbing and took me ages. I didn't even finish the one seat. Any ideas?
I never got round to doing the rear trailing arm bushes as Saturday was pretty much a wash out, but will check next weekend. Tomorrow first thing I will be at Excede to get the downpipe corrected. While it's there, I will change the torn boost pipe.
The swirl flaps were still solid and in good nick, but peace of mind is better knowing that they are not there at all to go wrong.
Car is all running so decided it was time for more cleaning, started off with removing the front wheels again and removed the wheel well liners:
They were rather dirty, so cleaned them twice, but they still not perfect, so will redo them again in the Summer properly. Took the time however to clean behind them properly.
Wheels were also very filthy with some tar deposits so cleaned them too:
Made a start on the interior too-
Before:
After:
Amazing transformation, but I just noticed there is more dirt on the door card again...............
Started with the leather seats too, but cleaning almost 13 years of grime takes some doing. There must be an easier way to do this:
It really took some scrubbing and took me ages. I didn't even finish the one seat. Any ideas?
I never got round to doing the rear trailing arm bushes as Saturday was pretty much a wash out, but will check next weekend. Tomorrow first thing I will be at Excede to get the downpipe corrected. While it's there, I will change the torn boost pipe.
When I get back from Excede, I will be removing the radiator fan and cowling to get to the belts I just replaced. I will be removing them an starting the engine to try and get to the source of the rattle from the front end when starting and stopping.
Here is the video of the starting and stopping. You can hear the starter motor packing up. Any ideas on the main noise?
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Here is the video of the starting and stopping. You can hear the starter motor packing up. Any ideas on the main noise?
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Waseem 333i
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Awesome progress so far. Well done on interior. It is a mission to clean. You can try steam. Please remember to apply leather cream or conditioner and use alot. Whole bottle alot. The seats will be greasy for about a week but atleast you have peace of mind they are nourished. (waiting on dubbing comments). The rattle you hearing on start up is most likely the tensioners. Visually inspect the damper pulley for cracks. If any cracks show replace damper pulley.
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Starter solenoid is sticky. Intake manifold needs to come out. Two e12 torx bolts hold the starter motor in. You need e12 torx spanner with flexible head to remove those bolts from the top or you can go in from the bottom with a bunch of extensions and what not after stripping a few components out of the way and lowering the gearbox. Rattle is one of the tensioners. You say you replaced the belts. Did you use the exact sizes that came out?
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Starter solenoid is sticky. Intake manifold needs to come out. Two e12 torx bolts hold the starter motor in. You need e12 torx spanner with flexible head to remove those bolts from the top or you can go in from the bottom with a bunch of extensions and what not after stripping a few components out of the way and lowering the gearbox. Rattle is one of the tensioners. You say you replaced the belts. Did you use the exact sizes that came out?
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Thanks. With the leather, I have Gliptone Liquid Leather Conditioner which I will use once the seats are as clean as I can get them, but it will take ages if current progress is anything to go by, lol.
There was no aircon belt and the tensioner was toast, so replaced those an then replaced the main serpentine belt with the same length. It's odd that it makes that noise only on starting and then switching off, mainly switching off. It also makes a noise when the aircon is switched on only at idle, but goes quiet when I rev it.
Starter motor I will remove in the next couple of weeks to sort.
There was no aircon belt and the tensioner was toast, so replaced those an then replaced the main serpentine belt with the same length. It's odd that it makes that noise only on starting and then switching off, mainly switching off. It also makes a noise when the aircon is switched on only at idle, but goes quiet when I rev it.
Starter motor I will remove in the next couple of weeks to sort.
Waseem 333i
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On my car the ac belt is bigger than the one listed on the catalogs. If the belt is not the correct size you will get that noise. The damper pulley can also cause it. I once had a new damper pulley that made a noise on idle and when switching the car on and off. Blert tried that same pulley on his car and it made the same noise. Looking at it while the car was running I couldn't see any problem. Eventually the original pulley gave up. Currently I have a topran part. Time will tell how long it lasts. I hate to say this but those noises I had with a faulty damper pulley. Running one belt only is not liked by these pulleys. Keep in mind the 4 e14 torx bolts are normal thread. Use some loctite and torque to 40n60°
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The car was making this noise on switch on and switch off even without the AC belt on so don't think it's that. This morning the power steering was feeling like the pump was working intermittently too. And while at Excede I did have a good look at the pulley and it looked fine, no cracks, etc.
As expected, never got any time to day to take the belts off and check for the noise.
I did however have the downpipe modified at Excede. Wow, can this car shift and no more plumes of black smoke, woohooo. I did enjoy the drive home after and even went on a detour. You can really hear the turbo doing it's thing on this car and I'm not just talking about the turbo whistle you get. Boosts nice and early too, I can hear it start to do it's thing from around 1200 rpm and really start boosting from 1800 rpm.
I did however notice some white / grey smoke on start up this morning, but it was rather cold. Later on in the day, no smoke at all.
I must do the belt thing to check exactly what is making that noise before the weekend so if necessary I can get and install the pulley or whatever else is at fault. I will get to the bottom of it.
As expected, never got any time to day to take the belts off and check for the noise.
I did however have the downpipe modified at Excede. Wow, can this car shift and no more plumes of black smoke, woohooo. I did enjoy the drive home after and even went on a detour. You can really hear the turbo doing it's thing on this car and I'm not just talking about the turbo whistle you get. Boosts nice and early too, I can hear it start to do it's thing from around 1200 rpm and really start boosting from 1800 rpm.
I did however notice some white / grey smoke on start up this morning, but it was rather cold. Later on in the day, no smoke at all.
I must do the belt thing to check exactly what is making that noise before the weekend so if necessary I can get and install the pulley or whatever else is at fault. I will get to the bottom of it.
Waseem 333i
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Awesome work. That exhaust is still restricting some power. If you can compare belt tension with another 330d. One other fanatic had a noise also and changed everything only to find the belt was a touch too big. Different belt noise gone. That start up smoking happens on almost all the cars. I thought it was residual oil in intake system but your car has everything cleaned. Perhaps it's the oil separator.
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Waseem 333i
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Honestly I'm not sure what causes that smoking. I've just left it. Only smokes on cold start. Also go into the hidden menu and monitor the coolant temps. Ideally I should stay around 91° normal driving
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Just been out to get some pizza and used it as an opportunity to check the smoking. I am extremely happy to report that there is no smoke, niks, nada. Ok, only revved to a max of around 3500 rpm, but not a whiff of smoke. Very chuffed with that. So, the smoke definitely must be a cold start issue. I have also noticed this with my Jeep CRD on occasion.
Temps looked good on the short runs I did today, will monitor it once I start doing longer runs to the office and back. I did however also change the coolant as a matter of course. There was nothing wrong with the old coolant, but while I was there, figured why not. It's also the proper BMW Blue stuff, rather than the red stuff that was in there.
As an FYI, the piece of boost pipe I purchased from the UK to replace the ruptured piece fits like a glove and works a treat, so if you ever need to replace, you can just get that piece instead of the whole pipe from BMW.
Temps looked good on the short runs I did today, will monitor it once I start doing longer runs to the office and back. I did however also change the coolant as a matter of course. There was nothing wrong with the old coolant, but while I was there, figured why not. It's also the proper BMW Blue stuff, rather than the red stuff that was in there.
As an FYI, the piece of boost pipe I purchased from the UK to replace the ruptured piece fits like a glove and works a treat, so if you ever need to replace, you can just get that piece instead of the whole pipe from BMW.
Waseem 333i
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Yeah I need to get the top one. I see it's available at alot of places. First I'll pull everything apart and see what's needed before I order. Thanks for that tip.
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Managed to get both belts off today and start the car. Still makes the rattle on switch off, but not so much on start up.
Here is the vid:
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Sounds like it is coming from the flywheel...........:blueCry:
Funnily enough, the starter behaved itself the whole time, starting the car consistently until I started recording the video, typical. Called Bosch in Wynberg today and they apparently don't have the solenoid in stock.
I checked all the pulleys and, apart from the tensioner pulleys feeling a little 'dry' but fine, I noticed the slightest knock on the power steering pulley, it's ever so slight. I think I will be changing both tensioners for the serpentine belt as a matter of course. The damper pulley looks to be solid with not a hint of play or movement at all so good news there.
Need to get a price on a new flywheel and then replace the clutch same time. Man this car is starting to cost a packet and I haven't even started with the body........
Here is the vid:
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Sounds like it is coming from the flywheel...........:blueCry:
Funnily enough, the starter behaved itself the whole time, starting the car consistently until I started recording the video, typical. Called Bosch in Wynberg today and they apparently don't have the solenoid in stock.
I checked all the pulleys and, apart from the tensioner pulleys feeling a little 'dry' but fine, I noticed the slightest knock on the power steering pulley, it's ever so slight. I think I will be changing both tensioners for the serpentine belt as a matter of course. The damper pulley looks to be solid with not a hint of play or movement at all so good news there.
Need to get a price on a new flywheel and then replace the clutch same time. Man this car is starting to cost a packet and I haven't even started with the body........
osiris
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Luigi_S said:
I know that feeling all too well man. My 330d was like this too, one problem after the next, the warranty I had on it was very well used I will tell you that much. Some guys get lucky with these cars and others just suffer.
At least yours is manual, the auto boxes are shyte on these cars and when they give in, its another kind of mission, its cheaper to convert to manual which then screws you in the end when you want to sell.
Hang in there man, looks like your getting it sorted rather quickly.
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