The infamous E36 M3 with 7136km .. now with pics

[dvst8]

All things considered.

Whoever buys a 20 year old car (with 10k or 300k) and expect everything to be perfectly new and sealed up without having to spend a cent is a fool

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Here I'm speaking from experience with both my 325is and the 333i.

Do either of them have less than 10k on the clock?

If not, the argument is invalid

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I bought a 92 bmw last year with 40k on the clock, not 10k as u requested but still less than the kms on this M3. This 92 was obviously garaged most of its life. All rubber and most plastic components are being replaced because of degradation.

So from having 1st hand experience, i say your argument is invalid unless you have had an expereince you can share where the degradation was not the case.

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I dont see your point.

You are saying exactly what I said above.

My debate with fuzz is that a lot of the rubbers would have needed replacing in any case. used or not.

It is not as if they would all of a sudden magically last longer because it was used.

And speaking about first hand experience - My very own 1991 M5 had 54k on the clock when I got it in 2011. Now on 61k

So far it needed the following apart from normal servicing:

Shocks
brake master cylinder
clutch master cylinder
V belts
HT leads
and I still have to replace the tyres.

And yes - whenever I take it out for a drive, I will take it up to 7300rpm at least once without fear before parking again.

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:bangdesk:

Ur initial arguement was that because its garaged under constant temps, there wont be any degradation. I disagree with that.

And the fact that u hate Santa. :thumbdo:

 

[Fordkoppie]

I mentioned a 22 year old car with 40k kms that suffered degradation which in this thread was said that there will be none.

A car with 400k kms one would expect to have degradation due to use, by your theory my 92 with 40k kms should have no degradation.

No one ever said anything like that.

Maybe we post too much detail in one go for you to absorb at once.

Maybe we should start posting one liners, because I don't know how else to make you read ALL the detail.

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

ok, resolve your arguments in person or pm guys, Stop derailing the thread

 

[Fuzz@tinyNET]

No - the point is that with an engine with low mileage, and high age, that is designed to be driven and not stored, the degradation on parts due to periods of spending time idle is a lot more prevalent than in a car that is used.

Please share the hidden knowledge you have about metals and metallurgy that would validate this statement.

Can you disprove my statement at all?

Ok, at least you have made one thing very clear that you know nothing about science.

And yes I can disprove your statement.

Disprove it :thumbs:

And you're right, I know nothing about the science of metallurgy in engines - I just have real world experience with a garage of 20+ BMWs (e30 to e90, 3 series to 7 series) in various conditions :bravo:

 

[Fordkoppie]

Ur initial arguement was that because its garaged under constant temps, there wont be any degradation.

Go back to post #32 and you will see that I said one of the 3 aspects of degrading is age and its unavoidable

 

[Rayzor]

ok, resolve your arguments in person or pm guys, Stop derailing the thread

Can we create a new thread and move comments there.
this is very informative :rollsmile:

 

[KarshS]

hello Fordkoppie is anyone else trying to personally attack you?
By what you said above, are you trying to say that dvst8 is slow?

better watch where you step hey....

 

[dvst8]

I mentioned a 22 year old car with 40k kms that suffered degradation which in this thread was said that there will be none.

A car with 400k kms one would expect to have degradation due to use, by your theory my 92 with 40k kms should have no degradation.

No one ever said anything like that.

Maybe we post too much detail in one go for you to absorb at once.

Maybe we should start posting one liners, because I don't know how else to make you read ALL the detail.

I have not insulted you once, who the f**k you think you are by your implication in your post above ?

Go at least attempt to achieve half the number of degrees and awards I have before you insult my intelligence.

Im out, no point discussing anything with an idiot.

 

[UpNcOmiNg!]

Thread Summary:

Epic e36 M3 in Avus blue with now 7157km's on the clock.
We all want it.

Degradation is a given in any car, whether in use or not.
Internal (fluids) and External (environment and use) all play a role in rate of degradation.

We still want the M3...
Just not for R450k....unless we had lots of money, then we don't care.
Degradation is still inevitable.

 

[Jeremy]

Car looks good though, however not 450k good.

 

[UpNcOmiNg!]

In before lock.

As well

 

[Fuzz@tinyNET]

I mentioned a 22 year old car with 40k kms that suffered degradation which in this thread was said that there will be none.

A car with 400k kms one would expect to have degradation due to use, by your theory my 92 with 40k kms should have no degradation.

No one ever said anything like that.

Maybe we post too much detail in one go for you to absorb at once.

Maybe we should start posting one liners, because I don't know how else to make you read ALL the detail.

Keep talking, I haven't banned anyone in a while :bravo:

 

[Jeremy]

Just a quick question, im not sure if someone already asked this, but i see it has German Spec seats, but amber indicators, didnt all german spec M's come with clears all round?

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

Seeing as we have adults here, that cannot debate in a adult manner, the thread is locked.