plane^driver
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We got a R200k franchise loan, you only require 50% in cash and whats nice is the bank used the shops equipment as surety so no need to use property or vehicles...tivoli786 said:
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Suggestion on thing to do to make an income
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It depends a lot on opportunity out there, entrepreneurs Creat an opportunity, something that has demand and unique with little or no competitive product in the market. Then it comes to a business plan and engaging not only banks but Venture Capitalists.
Innovation and patents , it is good to patent your ideas, a patent lasts 10 years and you may sue any competitor entering the market space. Or provide a franchise opportunity and watch your investment grow.
I specialize in business planning, strategy and work with a few Venture Capitalists as well as Advocates who will register the patent.
Innovation they say are the invention of lazy people like gate motors for example. So think of something which a lazy person will find value in.
Reselling someone else's ideas brings threats of substitutes and again it places you in a situation where your investment may go down the drain.
A great course for you to do would be the Management Advancement program at Wits Business school, it provides you with the fundamental grounding to running your own business. It is a worthwhile investment, or Gibbs in Pretoria.
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Innovation and patents , it is good to patent your ideas, a patent lasts 10 years and you may sue any competitor entering the market space. Or provide a franchise opportunity and watch your investment grow.
I specialize in business planning, strategy and work with a few Venture Capitalists as well as Advocates who will register the patent.
Innovation they say are the invention of lazy people like gate motors for example. So think of something which a lazy person will find value in.
Reselling someone else's ideas brings threats of substitutes and again it places you in a situation where your investment may go down the drain.
A great course for you to do would be the Management Advancement program at Wits Business school, it provides you with the fundamental grounding to running your own business. It is a worthwhile investment, or Gibbs in Pretoria.
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zama
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tivoli786 said:Oldman said:
This seems like a plan do they offer classes at night perhaps? Yet it does not directly help me start off something
Yes they do, at the WITS Plus building. I am busy with the Corporate Governance programme.
I'm also really keen to do something for that extra income.
Nastaliq
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Dont waste your time with these courses.
What you are looking for is a way to put some money in and get a reasonable amount back monthly.
I dont have enough moola to look at long games.
Which isnt probably prudent,
what I should be doing is hedging with some long term and doing something where i can maintain a reasonable amount of liquidity now.
I am keen on going into a partnership with you brother, if you want to do something together, so we both dont have to go all in.
The buying and selling cars market is saturated. i know a few people who started, made 10 or 20k or so and thought it was viable, then got stuck with some cars and then had to sell them at a loss and then lost the money made.
The issue is, if you not doing volume, its risky.
PM me bru, I am keen to do something halaal obviously.
tired of working for "the man"
What you are looking for is a way to put some money in and get a reasonable amount back monthly.
I dont have enough moola to look at long games.
Which isnt probably prudent,
what I should be doing is hedging with some long term and doing something where i can maintain a reasonable amount of liquidity now.
I am keen on going into a partnership with you brother, if you want to do something together, so we both dont have to go all in.
The buying and selling cars market is saturated. i know a few people who started, made 10 or 20k or so and thought it was viable, then got stuck with some cars and then had to sell them at a loss and then lost the money made.
The issue is, if you not doing volume, its risky.
PM me bru, I am keen to do something halaal obviously.
tired of working for "the man"
plane^driver
Member
tivoli786 said:
Drop me a PM with what you have in mind...
tivoli786
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So we have 4 keen ppl already. Guys this is serious and I don't want ppl think I am playing.
Please note all dealings will be above board and we will need to form joint legal entity in case someone has ideas of running the venture into the ground and splitting with the cash.
Also there will be no dealing in interest at all.
Please note all dealings will be above board and we will need to form joint legal entity in case someone has ideas of running the venture into the ground and splitting with the cash.
Also there will be no dealing in interest at all.
reid said:
ETF's are not strucutred products. A structured product is for example combining a long position in an equity instrument, with a put option on the same instrument, at the price you went long. This protects downside and leaves unlimited upside.
balanced book of investment? what does this mean?
balanced book = match liabilities with assets, long term liabilities with long term investments? is this what you mean?
every portfolio should be structured to custom fit each individuals needs. you can't apply a blanket to all investors.
you must take into account investors risk appetite, liquidity needs, and return expectations. Then only can you create a portfolio.
reid
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wolfman7 said:
ETF's are not structured products-ETFs are in fact Collective investment schemes. A structured product is for example combining a long position in an equity instrument, with a put option on the same instrument, at the price you went long. This protects downside and leaves unlimited upside.
Structured products facilitate bespoke risk-return objectives. This is accomplished by taking a traditional security, such as a conventional investment-grade bond, and replacing the usual payment features with non-traditional payoffs derived not from the issuer's own cash flow, but from the performance of one or more underlying assets. Doesn’t need to be equity as mentioned above
balanced book of investment? what does this mean? Apologies for my simple English here- I want to provide a level opinion which everyone can relate to and not fill this thread with jargon to show off my knowledge.
balanced book = match liabilities with assets, long term liabilities with long term investments? is this what you mean? This is not IFRS or GAAP – balanced in terms of long vs short term investment.
every portfolio should be structured to custom fit each individuals needs. you can't apply a blanket to all investors. – thus the mentioned or risk and time horizon
you must take into account investors risk appetite, liquidity needs, and return expectations. Then only can you create a portfolio.- Technical analysis
thanks
reid said:
collective investment schemes are not structured products.
i said example when i described a structured product, with the intent to simplify it and not confuse.
you basically described turning a safe bond that pays you fixed interest and payment, into a structured equity product. Not necessary. Yes you may use a zero-coupon risk free bond in the structure, but not replicate safe cashflows with risky ones. normally the aim is the other way around.
IFRS or GAAP? an individual is like a balance sheet. "you can't balance long term investments with short term". what are you balancing here? risk? return?
those are the only factors that matter and neither are balanced with time horizon. time horizon is only used to supplement liquidity needs, that is if an investor requires funds in the next 3 years for your kids education.
Technical analysis? do you even know what this is? just by stating that, you have shown me how little you know on this topic.
those factors are from the classical theories of portfolio construction, and based on fundamental laws.
Technical analysis is for part time traders that see stars in stock movements
please don't advise on such serious matters without the adequate knowledge.
reid
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wolfman7 said:
by no way is this advice. we were throwing ideas around. :sorry:
you're the man- you know everything - beautiful.:ty:
taking this a lil too personal are we? proving your point to who? me? wow.........
jeez this is a car forum and we all here due to our passion for cars. if we wana prove how great you are by stating your case in this manner-the stage is yours.......:clapper::chef::chef::chef:
reid said:
its a car forum, but this topic has nothing to do with cars.
i dont go around giving medical advise because i'm not qualified to do so.
but i will go around giving advice on a topic i am qualified in.
the investment profession has a bad name because of people that give incorrect advise, and don't abide by the industry's standards of conduct.
and yes i do know 90% of this field, so technically i do know almost everything about THIS field.
taking it personal? yes i am. you are giving my profession a bad name.
you used fancy words, and phrased them eloquently to confuse and show people you knew something about this topic, now that you caught out, you becoming defensive. Stop BSing and stick to what you know.
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