street parking lights after LED angeleye install

[fismail]

I changed the CCFL Angel Eyes to LED's from VSomai , got install help due to a grounding issue from ChrisBrand.

Long story short , could not find the accessory wire in CPU unit to to a DRL install so wired LED rings to park lamp (drivers side) and tapped.
All working well now and all wiring tidied up.
Only un-used wire is the yellow one.

I use my parks regularly with the indicator position.
What I notice now is with car off , indicator stalk to right hand side then all 4 rings lights up and if I move indicator stalk to left hand side then the OEM park lamp (in left front headlamp unit) lights up and the rings stay off.

If I tap the yellow wire to the black positive park wire on the left headlamp , would the indicator stalk in left position also light up all the rings or only the rings on the left hand side.

FYI if you have CCFL's and inverters then this issue does not exist and the correct side is lit.

That said on CCFL's , since 2006 I've had 4 sets across my BMW's and the common failure is the inverters that give up , the rings are pretty solid or so has my experience thus far been with them.

Its not a train smash if it does not work.

 

[Iceman007]

If you want them to work independently then you will wire the left angels with the left park light wire. And the right angels with the right park light wire either through two relays or directly. I prefer to use 2 relays and a fuse

 

[ChrisBrand]

Hey Buddy. Trying to figure out exactly whats wrong. Not 100 percent sure I understand but I will have a look at whats wrong. Otherwise wr can still run tbe wire to the ecu. Ill just check at home again which wire on your car it is.

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[fismail]

If you want them to work independently then you will wire the left angels with the left park light wire. And the right angels with the right park light wire either through two relays or directly. I prefer to use 2 relays and a fuse

So basically another wiring loom as per supply of LED angel eyes to make this work properly.
I guess connecting the second trigger wire and then moving indicator stalk to left position will also activate all 4 rings unless one adds a second relay as mentioned by you.

 

[Iceman007]

Ok firstly I dont exactly know how they are currently connected. Are they connected with or without a relay ? Chris I have met once and he is a good guy. Maybe he did not know you wanted the park function on the angels. I am not sure what work Chris does but I am sure he can fix the problem. I am an Aircraft Avionics Tech so i can do a bit.(I don't work on BMWs all day so I'm not a pro )I don't like to scratch in someone else's Spagetti (wiring) unless he is present or ill give advice or help. Firstly if you connected them to one park light the they will come on together. But if you tap + from the left park light to left angels and right + to the right it will be fine put in simple terms. I don't think you will need an relay for the LED rings because the should not draw to much current that will mess the LCM around. If you don't want the angels to come on then you have to work further back to the ecu box or fuse box wiring but you will need diagrams for that and its risky.

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[ChrisBrand]

Ok firstly I dont exactly know how they are currently connected. Are they connected with or without a relay ? Chris I have met once and he is a good guy. Maybe he did not know you wanted the park function on the angels. I am not sure what work Chris does but I am sure he can fix the problem. I am an Aircraft Avionics Tech so i can do a bit.(I don't work on BMWs all day so I'm not a pro )I don't like to scratch in someone else's Spagetti (wiring) unless he is present or ill give advice or help. Firstly if you connected them to one park light the they will come on together. But if you tap + from the left park light to left angels and right + to the right it will be fine put in simple terms. I don't think you will need an relay for the LED rings because the should not draw to much current that will mess the LCM around. If you don't want the angels to come on then you have to work further back to the ecu box or fuse box wiring but you will need diagrams for that and its risky.

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Howsit Ice!

I have no problem if you want to help him. You will know more than me. What we did is connect the trigger wire to the Park lights. The power is drawn from the battery terminal in the engine bay. There are two trigger wires. A yellow one and a white one. The white one is usually connected to the ECU, (ignition posiiton 2) so the lights will switch on when you start the car. The yellow is usually tapped into the footwell interior light so the angel eyes turn on when you unlock the car. Thus the angel eyes draw no power from the park lights. The wire connected to the park lights + simply works as a trigger to turn the lights on. The trigger wire (white or yellow) can be connected to any 12V source to trigger the ANgel Eyes to switch on. I asked Fismail if he wanted the park lights to stay on when he started the car or rather him choose when to switch them on? He opted to choose when to switch them on so we tapped the + on the park lights (right front) as I figured that as its only a trip/signal wire to tell the angel eyes to switch on it wont matter if its connected to the left or the right as long as there is a 12V current to singal/trip the Angels to switch on.

 

[Iceman007]

I figured thats what is normally done and you did it correctly. Just separate left from right and tap them from each park light Chris. As I see he wants the park light function for parking in the street.

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[ChrisBrand]

Apparently if you connect it to the 'side light bulb wire', then the Angel Eyes will come on when the light switch is in position 1 and 2.

So just splice the white wire into the side light bulb wire instead of where it is now.

 

[fismail]

Ok.

so to summarize.
I tap the white wire , currently un-used to the park light on the left front headlamp.
doing this will do the following.

indicator stalk moved left when car is off should trigger left side (2X angel eyes)

indicator stalk moved right when car is off should trigger right side (2X angel eyes)

with current wiring all 4 lights up because only yellow is tapped into right side park lamp.

let me do all this , will take pics of wiring plus result of lighting and get back to you , will have to lengthen white wire though for this which should not be an issue.

 

[ChrisBrand]

Wait, We tapped the white wire into the park lights or did you change it?

Should be like this:

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I have found a solution for the DRL setup where the lights will stay on once you switch the car in position 2. Let me know if you want to go that route

 

[fismail]

Wait, We tapped the white wire into the park lights or did you change it?

Should be like this:

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I have found a solution for the DRL setup where the lights will stay on once you switch the car in position 2. Let me know if you want to go that route

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Hi Chris , my bad.
white wire was tapped into RH park lamp by you , I did tidy up the layout though.
yellow wire to tap into LH park lamp and then to test.

 

[Iceman007]

If you want them working independent then you will require 2 X relays and not just one. One for left and one for right. If you use the digram U guys are showing then I suggest U use a diode on the each of the blue and yellow wire to control the relay and prevent feedback between the courtesy and park lights.

 

[fismail]

update.
I ran another trigger wire to the black wire of the parks.
with indicator stalk in either left or right position when car is off all 4 rings will light up due to lack of 2nd relay , I am happy with this for now.