Sports pack ride height

[orsim1]

Hi All,

As i'm new to owning a BMW E90 320d Sports pack, i noticed that the ride height on the right hand side of the vehicle is approx 10mm lower than the left, then took it into Dekra for a roadworthy test and 'Failed' so then i took the car to Auric Auto Claremont and informed them of the situation which they offered to do a full investigation and report back to me, but here's the thing that gets me, one of their head workshop manager's Mark goes on record claiming that "All BMW vehicles fitted with sports pack are considerably lower on the right hand side than that of the left side". My question is 'How is this possible?" i'm not a car fundie but i'm not a doos either, the bunch of comedians are in for a surprise.

Your assistance / comments / feedback would be much appreciated as i'd like to build a case against them.

 

[Sankekur]

..."All BMW vehicles fitted with sports pack are considerably lower on the right hand side than that of the left side".......

:biglol:

I think he was thinking of the fun pack suspension :rollsmile:



But in all seriousness it is normal for a BMW to be lower on the one side than the other, as the car is set up for left hand drive so more stuff like the battery is moved the the right side, the fuel tank is also more to the right, the engine (non-V) is also slanted to the right, all this is done to balance out the weight of the driver, but with RHD more weight is in the right hand side so it lend to be lower, though I can't say by how much.

 

[Niju06]

Would the one side be so low that it would fail roadworthy? Then all BMW e90s with sports packs would fail?

When i was looking around for my e90, I first read up on Hello Peter just to see what people say about the various BMW dealers in the cape. Auric is one i stayed away from....

Check this link out:

http://www.hellopeter.com/search-reports?keyword=auric+auto

 

[JENICH]

..."All BMW vehicles fitted with sports pack are considerably lower on the right hand side than that of the left side".......

:biglol:

I think he was thinking of the fun pack suspension :rollsmile:



But in all seriousness it is normal for a BMW to be lower on the one side than the other, as the car is set up for left hand drive so more stuff like the battery is moved the the right side, the fuel tank is also more to the right, the engine (non-V) is also slanted to the right, all this is done to balance out the weight of the driver, but with RHD more weight is in the right hand side so it lend to be lower, though I can't say by how much.

Off the bat here, Sank, you talking kak,
I own a E90 320d and mine sits perfectly level.

Niju06,
Will chat to the guys at JSN Motors here in JHB and get a second opinion

 

[Sankekur]

Maybe do a bit of reading up before making dumb off the bat comments.

 

[orsim1]

..."All BMW vehicles fitted with sports pack are considerably lower on the right hand side than that of the left side".......

:biglol:

I think he was thinking of the fun pack suspension :rollsmile:



But in all seriousness it is normal for a BMW to be lower on the one side than the other, as the car is set up for left hand drive so more stuff like the battery is moved the the right side, the fuel tank is also more to the right, the engine (non-V) is also slanted to the right, all this is done to balance out the weight of the driver, but with RHD more weight is in the right hand side so it lend to be lower, though I can't say by how much.

Off the bat here, Sank, you talking kak,
I own a E90 320d and mine sits perfectly level.

Niju06,
Will chat to the guys at JSN Motors here in JHB and get a second opinion

The car is 10mm lower on the right hand side in comparison to the left. What makes matters worse is that the service manager ' Mark Thomas ' goes on record to saying that this is normally the case in a vehicle fitted with a sports pack and that he will provide BMW technical specification details in black and white proof to back up his statement, what a puss he is, to implicate himself and place BMW in such a precarious position, someones definitely losing their Job. I've thus far lodged formal complaints with BMW SA and International and will furthermore contact the National Consumer Council to exercise the Consumer Protection Act, these clowns will be brought to book.
Niju06, I appreciate your effort in further gathering info from JSN Motors and look forward to your feedback, as I think this a good opportunity for us fanatics to stand together as a collective and expose this unlawful, unethical, unscrupulous business practices carried out by these type of dealerships.

 

[Arbee]

I guess i am surprised that my E90 sits level to the eye... I have never measured but it looks level to me!

orsim1 - Was the surface level when you measured?

Sank - With all due respect, i think you as a moderator need to change your attitude towards other members of this forum. I have seen a few responses of yours and find them to be very disrespectful. Kinda like a trigger happy response... But who am i to say anything? I'm just one of the guys that keep this here club moving, like Jenich... With that being said, this here Internets is the serious business so i usually take things with a pinch of salt! Just thought i would put that out there.

AND - I also think you talking crap, BMW has gone into a lot of research and development when building a car, yes fair enough they skimp on some items, but im sure that they would realize that the battery, tank, engine, etc will put weight onto one side of a vehicle, hence they would adjust and cater accordingly.

 

[Edwinz]

Did anyone notice that the car failed a road worthy due to the fact of this suspension.

So obviously this is not standard.

I have a E90 323i and mine is perfectly level.

And secondly when you go for a drop suspension they never say it will be 30mm on the one side and 20 on the other so that the car is level.

Sank notice this dimensions

And the you will see that it is consistent all round.

 

[Sankekur]

Sank - With all due respect, i think you as a moderator need to change your attitude towards other members of this forum. I have seen a few responses of yours and find them to be very disrespectful. Kinda like a trigger happy response... But who am i to say anything? I'm just one of the guys that keep this here club moving, like Jenich... With that being said, this here Internets is the serious business so i usually take things with a pinch of salt! Just thought i would put that out there.

What I would call a disrespectful and trigger happy response is saying something is kak based simply on a personal anecdote.

 

[Edwinz]

Sank how about you give us the website where you got this info from before I make a dumb comment of sort.

 

[Sankekur]

Google search: BMW lower on one side

 

[Arbee]

Sank - With all due respect, i think you as a moderator need to change your attitude towards other members of this forum. I have seen a few responses of yours and find them to be very disrespectful. Kinda like a trigger happy response... But who am i to say anything? I'm just one of the guys that keep this here club moving, like Jenich... With that being said, this here Internets is the serious business so i usually take things with a pinch of salt! Just thought i would put that out there.

What I would call a disrespectful and trigger happy response is saying something is kak based simply on a personal anecdote.

You said Jenich should read before making a dumb comment, he did read... If you read the OP, it is stated as Edwinz also said, the car failed roadworthy... This would obviously say that your generalization that all cars will not be level is wrong as there is something wrong with this car... Hence me retaliating! But never the less, again, you have replied with a trigger happy response! I rest my case...

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Edit to add: We had the same issue on our E46 330ci, but it was not all E46's nor all BMW's... It was a problem with the shock mount which was sorted out under plan. Best best would be to check the mounts and shocks including springs as they could collapse.

 

[AshG108]

..."All BMW vehicles fitted with sports pack are considerably lower on the right hand side than that of the left side".......

:biglol:

I think he was thinking of the fun pack suspension :rollsmile:



But in all seriousness it is normal for a BMW to be lower on the one side than the other, as the car is set up for left hand drive so more stuff like the battery is moved the the right side, the fuel tank is also more to the right, the engine (non-V) is also slanted to the right, all this is done to balance out the weight of the driver, but with RHD more weight is in the right hand side so it lend to be lower, though I can't say by how much.

here is one of your comedians :biglol::roflol:

There is no car, none at all that will be manufactured with a different ride height on the left compared to the right, let alone 10mm. it would make a huge difference to handling, even in a Citi Golf with the least of electronics and being a straight forward vehicle.

With regards to comments made by the other E90 'owners', they know what they are talking about and me being one of them, i can that may car is also dead level, i have also personally seen Yaseen's (M-Sport) and jerry's (Exclusive with Sport suspenion) cars with mine (Individual M-Sport) at the Car wash, on a level surface and i think it would have been easy to pick up.

Mr. Mod - you can not ask someone to read up on something that he owns and neither can you comment on something, that you read up on ONLY and DO NOT own. i suggest you leave the commenting to the owners of the vehicles, as that is what will help the OP the most and get the quickest and most accurate answer as i think from his post, he wants to get this resolves urgently.

P.S. Sank - i think you also take into consideration as a Mod, you should uphold the respect and dignity of the club, so you should tell someone if you think he is rude, not add fuel to the fire and retaliate.

Hope this clears things up.

Anything else we can help with bud, let us know.

 

[Karthik]

Oooooh Drama , anyways I think your E90 320d must have had a suspenison job , or something changed ? Maybe the mechanic that was working on it , changed springs or something and put non m sport pack on the one side ? Just my guess .

 

[Edwinz]

So what I did is exactly that and what I found is just other forums of other people with the same problem and I also saw that kind of the same thing happened what happened here.

So I could not find a BMW proven measurement that this fact is true.

So what you are saying is that if there is another guy on another forum saying that BMW has a generic problem with their sunroofs you will believe this?

Actually I went one step further and phoned Brian a friend of mine that has been working at bmw for 13 years and he says that this is not true and if it was all bmw's would have been called back a long time ago.

So how about you stop saying that GOOGLE SEARCH IT. and actually find a proven BMW measurement of this before you start rambling on about your personal anecdote.

What counts for one counts for all.

 

[AshG108]

Google search: BMW lower on one side

Thanks dude, seriously, if google was so helpful, BMW and every other car company wouldn't have needed to design the likes of diagnostic computing software, i would just google if the car overfuels, or rather, if i wanna put software, let me google stage 1, stage 2....heck let me add a downpipe through google while i am at it!!!raise:

Google FTW!!!!!
:fishwack:

to add: Like my post said, Jenich can give his "PERSONAL" opinion cause he OWNS the CAR, he doesnt google the freaking A STATEMENT and post it!!! You do realise that google brings up all the info relates to the search, be it bullshit or not...so i am guessing you believing from google, your bullshit you posted.

so if you google(For arguement sake) "BMW grows from a fruit and not manufactured", then you would post it on the forum and say 'the car wass initially a fruit" if you get more than one fruit statement? but obviously, you don't grow BMW's, but you will believe it was grown ( Cause Google says so....)

youre not trigger happy dude, you're google happy!!!:roflol:

you are now deemed the "Google Mod" not BMWFanatics mod Sank he he

 

[Arbee]

So what I did is exactly that and what I found is just other forums of other people with the same problem and I also saw that kind of the same thing happened what happened here.

So I could not find a BMW proven measurement that this fact is true.

So what you are saying is that if there is another guy on another forum saying that BMW has a generic problem with their sunroofs you will believe this?

Actually I went one step further and phoned Brian a friend of mine that has been working at bmw for 13 years and he says that this is not true and if it was all bmw's would have been called back a long time ago.

So how about you stop saying that GOOGLE SEARCH IT. and actually find a proven BMW measurement of this before you start rambling on about your personal anecdote.

What counts for one counts for all.

EXACTLY raise:

Not to be rude, but Sank, you where a better person (on the forum) before you got status... With that kind of attitude, this club/forum is going nowhere but downhill. Remember - It takes 50 years to build up a good reputation and just 5 minutes to tarnish it!

 

[JENICH]

I have seen a lot of E90s this morning and took careful notice when on level surfaces, they were all sitting level.
Checked out mine again at work and it is level.

Testing station failed this car because if a discrepancy in ride height. Surely these guys had a lot of E90s coming through and realised something is not right with this car.

Google search is not going to give you a clear answer Sank, just other okes experiencing the same problem. Maybe something wrong with shock or engine mountings gone.

John from JSN Motors is on some course today, and will get feedback and revert.

Guys,
Maybe post a few pics of your E90 and lets compare

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So what I did is exactly that and what I found is just other forums of other people with the same problem and I also saw that kind of the same thing happened what happened here.

So I could not find a BMW proven measurement that this fact is true.

So what you are saying is that if there is another guy on another forum saying that BMW has a generic problem with their sunroofs you will believe this?

Actually I went one step further and phoned Brian a friend of mine that has been working at bmw for 13 years and he says that this is not true and if it was all bmw's would have been called back a long time ago.

So how about you stop saying that GOOGLE SEARCH IT. and actually find a proven BMW measurement of this before you start rambling on about your personal anecdote.

What counts for one counts for all.

EXACTLY raise:

Not to be rude, but Sank, you where a better person (on the forum) before you got status... With that kind of attitude, this club/forum is going nowhere but downhill. Remember - It takes 50 years to build up a good reputation and just 5 minutes to tarnish it!

+100 000 000

 

[moranor@axis]

im not trying to be funny but how is he supposed to respond to "Off the bat here, Sank, you talking kak,"

I dont think his response was overly harsh...

If you guys actually do search you will find on many complaints about right hand drive cars sitting lower so really it is a common problem... Im sure you can find some with measurements if you look hard enough...

general consensus is that it is because the cars are made for Germany and extra weight is put on the right to offset the driver (thats why the engine is tilted and the battery is where it is) if this is true or not we will probably never know unless someone at bmw tells us it is so...

It does not seem to happen to all cars my car seems level though i have not measured it im not that OCD... the only thing i can think is that over time the extra loading causes the springs to sag on that side... maybe the car was owned by a large gentlemen before :fencelook:


"the testing station failed it so it must be wrong" honestly i bet if you take the car back with no changes it will probably pass they not exactly consistent are they?

 

[Arbee]

im not trying to be funny but how is he supposed to respond to "Off the bat here, Sank, you talking kak,"

I dont think his response was overly harsh...

If you guys actually do search you will find on many complaints about left hand drive cars sitting lower so really it is a common problem... Im sure you can find some with measurements if you look hard enough...

general consensus is that it is because the cars are made for Germany and extra weight is put on the right to offset the driver (thats why the engine is tilted and the battery is where it is) if this is true or not we will probably never know unless someone at bmw tells us it is so...

It does not seem to happen to all cars my car seems level though i have not measured it im not that OCD... the only thing i can think is that over time the extra loading causes the springs to sag on that side...

By providing proof - Proof that he isn't talking crap. Not a Google search...

I did search, yes, there are complaints but those cannot be classified as a common fault. It could be that that certain car had a shock mount fail or a spring collapse for example.

If that was true, all cars would be uneven as all cars have a battery, engine, etc...

That is why i said, there is a lot of R&D when building a car, heck when building anything...