Slipping

Heikz 135i

New member
Hi guys, have a bit of an issue with my 135i. When I'm driving along and say I want to overtake or just speed up, it feels as if the car doesn't want to accelerate. It almost feels as if the tyre is spinning. Can it be the tyres or maybe the clutch that is slipping or what? It is an automatic by the way.
 

Heikz 135i

New member
DCT is off, and the tyres are fairly new. Like a month old. DCT is always off tho, and it didn't do this in the past.
 

Woodies

Well-known member
Turn DCT on, if it flashes when you get this 'slipping' feeling then it's traction.
Or is the feeling more of a hesitation from the engine maybe? If not traction then get codes read.


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akash

Well-known member
You say when overtaking, i don't know what mods you have, but i assuming overtaking are at speeds of 100kmh.

You need to make crazy power for your car to lose traction in 4th gear or so.

It sounds like it could be your gearbox thats slipping.

If it was your tyres loosing traction your DCT light on the dash would flicker.

It could also be something simple like boost leak but that would normally throw a code.
 

r0ckf1re

Well-known member
So traction is off, and the car doesn't get any traction.

That's odd.

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Heikz 135i

New member
No mods at all, and it aint the traction control. I think it might be gearbox. And yes also it has the feeling of hesitation from the engine almost.


Thank you to all the responses.
 

Jay-Dee

New member
I have a very similar problem on my F20 118i... started to happen just as the car was coming out of motor plan... went to BMW 3 times and they could not replicate the problem. On the third time they thought I was mad so to make me happy they re-did the software on the car.. the problem went away for a few days and still 3 months later the car feels like it has insane power by comparison but I still have he problem at least once a week.

Went on up country get away and decided to check oil before going and the car was bone dry on the dip stick... horrified as it had been at BMW a week before, I filled it up with oil and went on my 700km round trip without a single issue.

Since it has come back twice in the last 3 weeks but the car is due for an oil service in 2000km and will find a good Indi to give it a once over. Also want them to check the transmission fluid and fuel filter as according to the log print out from BMW neither of these had been looked at in he last 5 years / 100 000km...

Would love to know if you solve yours as it can help solving mine


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peanut125i

Active member
Are you stomping on the accelerator pedal when this happens? Does it definitely feel like something is slipping or is it lag? On my 135i with the dct gearbox when overtaking and mashing foot to the floor it goes from 7th to 3rd gear and it takes a second or two where nothing happens and then all hel breaks loose.

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KingKeith

New member
Jay-Dee said:
I have a very similar problem on my F20 118i... started to happen just as the car was coming out of motor plan... went to BMW 3 times and they could not replicate the problem. On the third time they thought I was mad so to make me happy they re-did the software on the car.. the problem went away for a few days and still 3 months later the car feels like it has insane power by comparison but I still have he problem at least once a week.

Went on up country get away and decided to check oil before going and the car was bone dry on the dip stick... horrified as it had been at BMW a week before, I filled it up with oil and went on my 700km round trip without a single issue.

Since it has come back twice in the last 3 weeks but the car is due for an oil service in 2000km and will find a good Indi to give it a once over. Also want them to check the transmission fluid and fuel filter as according to the log print out from BMW neither of these had been looked at in he last 5 years / 100 000km...

Would love to know if you solve yours as it can help solving mine


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I would have thought the Oil light would have come on before that, hope nothing was damaged.
 

Rotinaj

Active member
wow you must be a driving god. Have you applied to F1 yet?

Anyway back to the car, you give virtually no proper explanation of what happens.

Is the car in manual mode when you try to overtake or is it in full automatic?

Does it only do this when you mash the throttle or does it do it all the time?

Does the car eventually pick up speed or does the transmission just slip to infinity and beyond without any real speed increase.

And so on and so forth.
 

Jay-Dee

New member
Fortunately nothing was damaged with the oil being low / that low... Dont know why the oil light did not come on.. The OBC still says 3200km to go for an oil change but will get the light and level sensor checked when it goes in next

Re when it happens... Only ever once when flooring it.. otherwise it is always when driving normally and never happens in Sport or Eco Pro, only in comfort... Mainly happens when going up a gentle hill but has happened on flat and downhill to... I think it could be a clogged fuel filter personally and that is the next on the list to get checked / replaced (not being mechanically inclined on anything more than a motorbike).

With my car... It never activates the traction control light (I know this works as it has come on before) but I have not driven long enough with traction control off to comfortably say it is or is not the traction control

*** Sorry for hijacking the thread, just really keen to see if anyone has a solution
 

Heikz 135i

New member
Jay-Dee said:
I have a very similar problem on my F20 118i... started to happen just as the car was coming out of motor plan... went to BMW 3 times and they could not replicate the problem. On the third time they thought I was mad so to make me happy they re-did the software on the car.. the problem went away for a few days and still 3 months later the car feels like it has insane power by comparison but I still have he problem at least once a week.

Went on up country get away and decided to check oil before going and the car was bone dry on the dip stick... horrified as it had been at BMW a week before, I filled it up with oil and went on my 700km round trip without a single issue.

Since it has come back twice in the last 3 weeks but the car is due for an oil service in 2000km and will find a good Indi to give it a once over. Also want them to check the transmission fluid and fuel filter as according to the log print out from BMW neither of these had been looked at in he last 5 years / 100 000km...

Would love to know if you solve yours as it can help solving mine


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Man that's bad, yeah i also thought your earning lights would come on, because of the oil? The car does not always have this problem of mine, but still annoying and can get dangerous. Oil light of mine came on, threw oil in and has another oil light. They told me to drain the oil and put in then. Also have break fluid to do now as well. Will post if I can get the solution to my problem.


peanut125i said:
Are you stomping on the accelerator pedal when this happens? Does it definitely feel like something is slipping or is it lag? On my 135i with the dct gearbox when overtaking and mashing foot to the floor it goes from 7th to 3rd gear and it takes a second or two where nothing happens and then all hel breaks loose.

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No, no stomping or smashing it into the floor, just like putting foot down a little. It literally feels like my rim is spinning in the tyre, if that makes sense, like it slips and then the power comes in. Do you have turbo lag with your car? I heard these cars have a bit of a problem with the turbo sometimes.


Rotinaj said:
wow you must be a driving god. Have you applied to F1 yet?

Anyway back to the car, you give virtually no proper explanation of what happens.

Is the car in manual mode when you try to overtake or is it in full automatic?

Does it only do this when you mash the throttle or does it do it all the time?

Does the car eventually pick up speed or does the transmission just slip to infinity and beyond without any real speed increase.

And so on and so forth.

Thank you for the piece of sarcasm. I know I didn't explain a lot, because it is hard to explain the problem. Like i mentioned earlier, it feels as if the tyre slips, almost as if the rim is slipping in the tyre, that type of feeling. And at the same time almost like it lags or the clutch slips, that's how it feels. Car is in full automatic most of the time. Car eventually picks up speed after 2 or 3 seconds and then it goes.
 

Ratslaaf

///Member
There's 5 clutch packs in a 6 speed auto box. And yes, they do slip. It sounds like and old lady driving a manual, slowly engaging the clutch while she pulls away. Very common issue on the 6hp21 ZF boxes.
 

Rotinaj

Active member
Heikz 135i said:
Jay-Dee said:
I have a very similar problem on my F20 118i... started to happen just as the car was coming out of motor plan... went to BMW 3 times and they could not replicate the problem. On the third time they thought I was mad so to make me happy they re-did the software on the car.. the problem went away for a few days and still 3 months later the car feels like it has insane power by comparison but I still have he problem at least once a week.

Went on up country get away and decided to check oil before going and the car was bone dry on the dip stick... horrified as it had been at BMW a week before, I filled it up with oil and went on my 700km round trip without a single issue.

Since it has come back twice in the last 3 weeks but the car is due for an oil service in 2000km and will find a good Indi to give it a once over. Also want them to check the transmission fluid and fuel filter as according to the log print out from BMW neither of these had been looked at in he last 5 years / 100 000km...

Would love to know if you solve yours as it can help solving mine


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Man that's bad, yeah i also thought your earning lights would come on, because of the oil? The car does not always have this problem of mine, but still annoying and can get dangerous. Oil light of mine came on, threw oil in and has another oil light. They told me to drain the oil and put in then. Also have break fluid to do now as well. Will post if I can get the solution to my problem.


peanut125i said:
Are you stomping on the accelerator pedal when this happens? Does it definitely feel like something is slipping or is it lag? On my 135i with the dct gearbox when overtaking and mashing foot to the floor it goes from 7th to 3rd gear and it takes a second or two where nothing happens and then all hel breaks loose.

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No, no stomping or smashing it into the floor, just like putting foot down a little. It literally feels like my rim is spinning in the tyre, if that makes sense, like it slips and then the power comes in. Do you have turbo lag with your car? I heard these cars have a bit of a problem with the turbo sometimes.


Rotinaj said:
wow you must be a driving god. Have you applied to F1 yet?

Anyway back to the car, you give virtually no proper explanation of what happens.

Is the car in manual mode when you try to overtake or is it in full automatic?

Does it only do this when you mash the throttle or does it do it all the time?

Does the car eventually pick up speed or does the transmission just slip to infinity and beyond without any real speed increase.

And so on and so forth.

Thank you for the piece of sarcasm. I know I didn't explain a lot, because it is hard to explain the problem. Like i mentioned earlier, it feels as if the tyre slips, almost as if the rim is slipping in the tyre, that type of feeling. And at the same time almost like it lags or the clutch slips, that's how it feels. Car is in full automatic most of the time. Car eventually picks up speed after 2 or 3 seconds and then it goes.




Send it to ZF let them diagnose and take from there. YOu have a stuffed transmission.
 
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