Remapping my black tractor

[S1NGH 001]

Change of plan, the remap will be done at Old Dutch Racing.

This is not a personal attack at Xcede, I have tremendous respect for their work:thumbs:

I contacted Shilesh today, to set a time for the software update, his response was, "maybe we could meet that afternoon", when I asked him how long it would take, his response was "20 minutes to load the file". :nonono:

That's a bit scary :yuck:

If your car has been read and the file written, should take about that long to write.

We just reloaded my Cupra the other day and was about 20 mins to write.

What exactly is the concern ?

My car has not been read :thumbs:

I was told that I should drive the car for a bit and meet him most probably the next day, as I should let the car adjust :fencelook:

There's no need for the car to adjust to a down pipe :thumbs:

 

[Dippies]

:bravo: Nice you will enjoy :thumbs:

Have you put your car on the Dyno yet ?

nope did not do it yet :rollsmile:

 

[Rolf]

If your car has been read and the file written, should take about that long to write.

We just reloaded my Cupra the other day and was about 20 mins to write.

Mate... completely different ECU (DME)!

BMW 320d BOSCH EDC16 C3x

Seat Cupra BOSCH ME9.1

The ME series is really quick to program where as the EDC16 series DME is an "old dog"

 

[S1NGH 001]

:bravo: Nice you will enjoy :thumbs:

Have you put your car on the Dyno yet ?

nope did not do it yet :rollsmile:

Lazy bugger :rollsmile:

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Sorry but I did not want to interfer with a fellow advertiser / customer relation here in the Forum... that's the reason I kept quiet

But all good :thumbs:

I fully understand buddy:rollsmile:

 

[dvst8]

@ Sing - cool dude, you need to go where you feel confident.

@ Rolf - cool, I'm no tuner just tried to compare. Guess I should have reserved comment.


I'm sure Sherwin will respond.

:thumbs:

 

[Sherwin@xcede]

Change of plan, the remap will be done at Old Dutch Racing.

This is not a personal attack at Xcede, I have tremendous respect for their work:thumbs:

I contacted Shilesh today, to set a time for the software update, his response was, "maybe we could meet that afternoon", when I asked him how long it would take, his response was "20 minutes to load the file". :nonono:

That's a bit scary :yuck:

Hi there, absolutely no problem with you not coming to us. And ODR are a good bunch of very experienced guys who will take care of you, so I know for a fact you will be happy with their service.

Just a quick question so that we as Xcede can improve our service & ensure this doesn't happen again. Your concern was with the duration of the mapping process? Please correct me if I'm wrong as that is what I am reading but I could be mistaken.

So the duration of the remap on the 320d is relatively short. But I don't follow why the duration of the programming is a problem. If ODR write a map it will be around the same duration. The duration of programming is determined by the protocol & bus & most tools will be around the same time to write. For example, on an E92 M3 it takes around 35 seconds to write a map. Yes 35 seconds.

If you referring to the entire process, then I also am a bit confused. The car has no hardware besides a downpipe. We map diesels almost everyday & we have a map for a car with no hardware or with downpipe or even downpipe/intake/cooler, etc.

To be totally honest most tuners in the world would do the same "canned" tune for a car with no custom hardware. all the biggest tuners in the world will accept your ECU via e-mail & send your ECu map with a canned tune. No logging, or anything because the car was no custom hardware which dramatically affects the volumetric effiency of the engine.

Dinan, Evolve, ESS, Cobb, superchips, GIAC, Active autowerke, just about any chipping company in the world will mail out a tune for a 320d with a downpipe. I don't want to speak for Rolf, but I'm sure the device he was going to send would have fulfilled a similar function. i doubt the device would do any logging & send to him.

The logging & iterative process of custom tuning occurs when the car has, well custom hardware. for exampe, if a car has bigger injectors then the the whole fuelling calibration has to be redone. The base fuel maps & almost all the tables will have to be altered. A bigger injector flows more volume for the same injection period as a smaller injector so it makes sense the fuelling has to be done.

Even then some of the big tuning companies will send you a canned tune. They will merely ask what size injectors/ spray pattern, etc & mail you the map. I personally wouldn't do that, but most big tuners would.

Downpipe & intake there isn't really a need for a custom map as these mods conform to a standard these days. One has to do some programming for the catalyst monitoring and if the intake pipe is a different diameter, then some MAF scaling may have to happen. But nothing major & no need for logging, especially not for just a downpipe.

Once again, apologies if I misunderstood your concern & all the best with your ODR experience, you will be very happy with the gains.

 

[S1NGH 001]

Change of plan, the remap will be done at Old Dutch Racing.

This is not a personal attack at Xcede, I have tremendous respect for their work:thumbs:

I contacted Shilesh today, to set a time for the software update, his response was, "maybe we could meet that afternoon", when I asked him how long it would take, his response was "20 minutes to load the file". :nonono:

That's a bit scary :yuck:

Hi there, absolutely no problem with you not coming to us. And ODR are a good bunch of very experienced guys who will take care of you, so I know for a fact you will be happy with their service.

Just a quick question so that we as Xcede can improve our service & ensure this doesn't happen again. Your concern was with the duration of the mapping process? Please correct me if I'm wrong as that is what I am reading but I could be mistaken.

So the duration of the remap on the 320d is relatively short. But I don't follow why the duration of the programming is a problem. If ODR write a map it will be around the same duration. The duration of programming is determined by the protocol & bus & most tools will be around the same time to write. For example, on an E92 M3 it takes around 35 seconds to write a map. Yes 35 seconds.

If you referring to the entire process, then I also am a bit confused. The car has no hardware besides a downpipe. We map diesels almost everyday & we have a map for a car with no hardware or with downpipe or even downpipe/intake/cooler, etc.

To be totally honest most tuners in the world would do the same "canned" tune for a car with no custom hardware. all the biggest tuners in the world will accept your ECU via e-mail & send your ECu map with a canned tune. No logging, or anything because the car was no custom hardware which dramatically affects the volumetric effiency of the engine.

Dinan, Evolve, ESS, Cobb, superchips, GIAC, Active autowerke, just about any chipping company in the world will mail out a tune for a 320d with a downpipe. I don't want to speak for Rolf, but I'm sure the device he was going to send would have fulfilled a similar function. i doubt the device would do any logging & send to him.

The logging & iterative process of custom tuning occurs when the car has, well custom hardware. for exampe, if a car has bigger injectors then the the whole fuelling calibration has to be redone. The base fuel maps & almost all the tables will have to be altered. A bigger injector flows more volume for the same injection period as a smaller injector so it makes sense the fuelling has to be done.

Even then some of the big tuning companies will send you a canned tune. They will merely ask what size injectors/ spray pattern, etc & mail you the map. I personally wouldn't do that, but most big tuners would.

Downpipe & intake there isn't really a need for a custom map as these mods conform to a standard these days. One has to do some programming for the catalyst monitoring and if the intake pipe is a different diameter, then some MAF scaling may have to happen. But nothing major & no need for logging, especially not for just a downpipe.

Once again, apologies if I misunderstood your concern & all the best with your ODR experience, you will be very happy with the gains.

Thanks your thorough response Sherwin, I sincerely appreciate it :thumbs:

My concern was with 3 aspects:

1. The duration of the remap process
2. Being told to drive the car to let it adjust to the down pipe before the remap
3. Not being able to confirm a time and place for the remap

I have nothing against Xcede, your knowledge and work is truly impeccable raise:

 

[Arbee]

I was so excited to have another fanatic join the Xcede crew... What a buzz kill. Anyways, all the best with ODR. They are also very good.

If I remember correctly, my car took about 2 mins to load the file. It was at a dyno event, car got its stock dyno run (130wkw 430nm iirc) then came off, Sherwin loaded the file, took the car for a drive around the block and back on the dyno. 177wkw 566nm was the end result. In less than an hour (another car was dyno between my 2 runs)

 

[S1NGH 001]

I was so excited to have another fanatic join the Xcede crew... What a buzz kill. Anyways, all the best with ODR. They are also very good.

If I remember correctly, my car took about 2 mins to load the file. It was at a dyno event, car got its stock dyno run (130wkw 430nm iirc) then came off, Sherwin loaded the file, took the car for a drive around the block and back on the dyno. 177wkw 566nm was the end result. In less than an hour (another car was dyno between my 2 runs)

Thanks Arbee. Yes I've known the guys at ODR for a few years, all round good service there as well :thumbs:

Thanks for your input, greatly appreciated :thumbs:

 

[ChefDJ]

My map was read, sent off to England for tuning, returned and reloaded within an hour, which could have been quicker if the guy in England was at his PC at the time we sent it.
:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[Rolf]

The guy in the UK must be a genius :biglol:

 

[ChefDJ]

The guy in the UK must be a genius :biglol:

:fencelook:

 

[Twinz]

Look forward to the results on this. So many 330d & 120d & 320d's being tuned up on the forum. Exciting times.

 

[S1NGH 001]

The guy in the UK must be a genius :biglol:

:roflol::tease:

 

[Dippies]

I must commend Both tuners here for their Professionalism, wishing to C more of that Well done :bravo: in handling this. :thumbs:

 

[bmsportzn135i]

Hi guys

I will be remapping my E90 320d in the first week of April, car has been for a full software update at BMW 2 weeks back.

I have been in contact with the Xcede rep in Durban, the down pipe is going to be at Primaforce Exhausts in Durban, recommended by him.

Everything is set for 4th April :rollsmile:

Which PrimaForce branch are you getting your down pipes done at?
Is it the North coast one?

 

[S1NGH 001]

Hi guys

I will be remapping my E90 320d in the first week of April, car has been for a full software update at BMW 2 weeks back.

I have been in contact with the Xcede rep in Durban, the down pipe is going to be at Primaforce Exhausts in Durban, recommended by him.

Everything is set for 4th April :rollsmile:

Which PrimaForce branch are you getting your down pipes done at?
Is it the North coast one?

North coast road :thumbs:

 

[S1NGH 001]

Stock Dyno run was done today figures where 123KW & 357 NM at the Flywheel :thumbs:

Down pipe is tomorrow and remap on Friday :rollsmile:

 

[Sabretooth tiger]

nice stock figures

 

[Dippies]

Stock Dyno run was done today figures where 123KW & 357 NM at the Flywheel :thumbs:

Down pipe is tomorrow and remap on Friday :rollsmile:

great to hear so i guess you are supper excited.

I know the feeling and the sleep does not come easy when your excited. :rollsmile:

You def got something to look forward to. :thumbs: