Quite interesting for you guys...

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Here is a link to a WIKI page I found while browsing for facts and figures on my car... Cool thing is, all you Guru's, if time allows, can do write-ups too.

Have a look ppl Wikicars
 
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Jakkals_F30

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Didn't read all of it but interesting read for sure..
Don't know if it's in there but the BMW emblem of the blue&white originally came from when they use to make engines for aircraft and the blue is supposed to be the spinning blades if i remember correctly.

Could be wrong but that's what i remember :pimp:
 

P1000

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Jakkals323i said:
Don't know if it's in there but the BMW emblem of the blue&white originally came from when they use to make engines for aircraft and the blue is supposed to be the spinning blades if i remember correctly.

Could be wrong but that's what i remember :pimp:

That's an untrue myth
 

ETTIENNE

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The BMW logo emblem history. The blue and white round BMW logo has almost 100 years. Inspired by the traditional flag of Bavaria and originally intended as a graphic representation of the fast turning airplane propeller, the BMW roundel is today a symbol of joy of driving.

emblem1A.jpg
 

Nic_s

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ETTIENNE said:
The BMW logo emblem history. The blue and white round BMW logo has almost 100 years. Inspired by the traditional flag of Bavaria and originally intended as a graphic representation of the fast turning airplane propeller, the BMW roundel is today a symbol of joy of driving.

emblem1A.jpg

The emblem was originally never meant to be a representation of a fast turning airplane propeller. They put it on one of their brochures in the 30's or 40's and has stuck since.

I can only find the one vid now. I know there was one about the brochure...
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Sorry, not a brochure, but a magazine.
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Just saw that the info on the emblem on that wiki page is also referring to the spinning prop. The emblem originally had nothing to do with a spinning prop as explained in this Vids above.
 
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Mike1

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Uhmm... Hold up.

**PUlls out BMW History Books which all BMW employee's need to study and get 90% for before starting with the BMW Group**

I quote from page 5 of the study booklet:

" A white and blue circular propeller becomes the company logo of Bayerische Motoren Werke, characterising an aircraft engine in the air. Leaving aside a few minor changes, this logo symbolises the BMW brand to this day."

This is taken directly from the study manual provided by BMW when I started at MINI. A Portrait.

Hope this clears up any confusion. Ask me anything else cos this book contains loads of info.

Mike
 

Nic_s

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MiniMike19 said:
Uhmm... Hold up.

**PUlls out BMW History Books which all BMW employee's need to study and get 90% for before starting with the BMW Group**

I quote from page 5 of the study booklet:

" A white and blue circular propeller becomes the company logo of Bayerische Motoren Werke, characterising an aircraft engine in the air. Leaving aside a few minor changes, this logo symbolises the BMW brand to this day."

This is taken directly from the study manual provided by BMW when I started at MINI. A Portrait.

Hope this clears up any confusion. Ask me anything else cos this book contains loads of info.

Mike

Uhmm... Did you watch the vids??? The second one is originally from www.bmw.tv. It's printed at the end of the vid. The prop image came way after the logo was designed. So unless someone went to the future during that time... :thinking:
 
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Mike1

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Nic_s said:
MiniMike19 said:
Uhmm... Hold up.

**PUlls out BMW History Books which all BMW employee's need to study and get 90% for before starting with the BMW Group**

I quote from page 5 of the study booklet:

" A white and blue circular propeller becomes the company logo of Bayerische Motoren Werke, characterising an aircraft engine in the air. Leaving aside a few minor changes, this logo symbolises the BMW brand to this day."

This is taken directly from the study manual provided by BMW when I started at MINI. A Portrait.

Hope this clears up any confusion. Ask me anything else cos this book contains loads of info.

Mike

Uhmm... Did you watch the vids??? The second one is originally from www.bmw.tv. It's printed at the end of the vid. The prop image came way after the logo was designed. So unless someone went to the future during that time... :thinking:

Nic

Not going to argue with you. I have just quoted directly from a text book that was shoved in my face 6 months ago when I started with BMW.

I had to study it and more. So I wont argue... If I must post a pic of the book then I will.

Mike
 

Nic_s

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MiniMike19 said:
Nic_s said:
MiniMike19 said:
Uhmm... Hold up.

**PUlls out BMW History Books which all BMW employee's need to study and get 90% for before starting with the BMW Group**

I quote from page 5 of the study booklet:

" A white and blue circular propeller becomes the company logo of Bayerische Motoren Werke, characterising an aircraft engine in the air. Leaving aside a few minor changes, this logo symbolises the BMW brand to this day."

This is taken directly from the study manual provided by BMW when I started at MINI. A Portrait.

Hope this clears up any confusion. Ask me anything else cos this book contains loads of info.

Mike

Uhmm... Did you watch the vids??? The second one is originally from www.bmw.tv. It's printed at the end of the vid. The prop image came way after the logo was designed. So unless someone went to the future during that time... :thinking:

Nic

Not going to argue with you. I have just quoted directly from a text book that was shoved in my face 6 months ago when I started with BMW.

I had to study it and more. So I wont argue... If I must post a pic of the book then I will.

Mike

For all we know both is wrong. It might just have been some random design that they liked back then and just stuck with it. Who knows :dunno:

For me, the spinning prop just doesn't add up (Because of the time it came to be and because it was part of a marketing ploy of which they actually have proof) and thus I have to believe the latter.

Who is the author of the book?
 
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Mike1

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The author is BMW.

Its a BMW text book they give you when you join the BMW Group. You study it and do an exam.

Mike
 

Clownshoe

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I have seen alot of debate on the subject and the first picture of the logo actually illustrated as a propellar was long after the logo was used. That doesn't mean that the logo was not intended to be a prop from day one though.
 

Nic_s

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Clownshoe said:
I have seen alot of debate on the subject and the first picture of the logo actually illustrated as a propellar was long after the logo was used. That doesn't mean that the logo was not intended to be a prop from day one though.

That's why I said both theories might be wrong. It doesn't seem like anybody really knows. This has been discussed numerous times and there has never been absolute concrete proof to prove any theory. There is no real proof (except for the contradicting "facts"), but people believe themselves to be right and thus argue.

For all we know someone from BMW knows perfectly well, but keeps the real facts as it keeps people interested. Just like they kept the E34 M5 convertible and 500+bhp M8 a secret all these years. :dunno:
 

Clownshoe

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The early days of BMW were quite turbulent and the war inbetween means that any concrete peoof of origin of the logo are long gone!!

I started a company a few years ago and 6 months later the we (the partners) had a debate on who and how we came up with the logo!!!
 
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Mike1

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I love how we have no concrete evidence... Uhmm I have a BMW authored textbook on BMW History which was given to me when I started in the group.

Please explain how this is not evidence or fact enough. :dunno:

Mike
 

Nic_s

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MiniMike19 said:
I love how we have no concrete evidence... Uhmm I have a BMW authored textbook on BMW History which was given to me when I started in the group.

Please explain how this is not evidence or fact enough. :dunno:

Mike

Have you even watched the videos?? They (of which one is part of a tour from BMW and the other is originally from www.bmw.tv) is contradicting your book. So it looks like BMW is contradicting themselves here.

We have no proper proof and without knowing who wrote the book you have there is no way to validate it's authenticity. You purely believe the spinning prop and anything supporting it is correct and thus all other information becomes null and void in your eyes and you don't see the big picture.

THE BIG PICTURE:
With so much contradicting information neither theory can be properly proved. For all we know, both is wrong.

My personal view:
One the earliest docs with the BMW logo on it is from 1918 and the spinning prop pick is from 1929. If we look at the information we do have, it makes much more sens that the logo is based on the original RAPP logo and the Bavarian national colors.
 
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