Motor Plan and tracking racing ?

[Quick///M]

Does bmw cancel you motor plan if you take your car to a track e.g. Kyalami ?

I am not not talking about Drag racing (Tarlton)

 

[Bugger]

Yup. Unless you know a DP pretty well. They don't take too kindly to it. Only time you can is if you go on advanced driver training and use your car. So if BMW find out they get a bit nasty AFAIK.
Could be mistaken, but that's my understanding.

 

[TLK]

You should also ask your insurance if your car is still covered if you go on a track.
I know most of them won't insure the car for the track.

 

[Quick///M]

Yup. Unless you know a DP pretty well. They don't take too kindly to it. Only time you can is if you go on advanced driver training and use your car. So if BMW find out they get a bit nasty AFAIK.
Could be mistaken, but that's my understanding.

Why do they sell sports cars if you are not allowed to use it on a track :thumbdo:

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You should also ask your insurance if your car is still covered if you go on a track.
I know most of them won't insure the car for the track.

They will cover me its the MP that is a concern

 

[Bugger]

Yup. Unless you know a DP pretty well. They don't take too kindly to it. Only time you can is if you go on advanced driver training and use your car. So if BMW find out they get a bit nasty AFAIK.
Could be mistaken, but that's my understanding.

Why do they sell sports cars if you are not allowed to use it on a track :thumbdo:

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You should also ask your insurance if your car is still covered if you go on a track.
I know most of them won't insure the car for the track.

They will cover me its the MP that is a concern

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That's a very good question. We are one of few countries in the world that have a mandatory motorplan with our cars. It's an optional extra in Europe. BMW get a bit fixated by MP. That's why they encourage buyers to go on their advanced driving courses. It's a complicated scenario. I put my M3 on the track a couple of times under MP. Was nerve wracking. BMW can quite easily pick up when a car has been "abused", in their words,and then they get full of it when it comes to repairs.

 

[Quick///M]

Yup. Unless you know a DP pretty well. They don't take too kindly to it. Only time you can is if you go on advanced driver training and use your car. So if BMW find out they get a bit nasty AFAIK.
Could be mistaken, but that's my understanding.

Why do they sell sports cars if you are not allowed to use it on a track :thumbdo:

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You should also ask your insurance if your car is still covered if you go on a track.
I know most of them won't insure the car for the track.

They will cover me its the MP that is a concern

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That's a very good question. We are one of few countries in the world that have a mandatory motorplan with our cars. It's an optional extra in Europe. BMW get a bit fixated by MP. That's why they encourage buyers to go on their advanced driving courses. It's a complicated scenario. I put my M3 on the track a couple of times under MP. Was nerve wracking. BMW can quite easily pick up when a car has been "abused", in their words,and then they get full of it when it comes to repairs.

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That makes a whole lot of sense, and i guess if one were to put the car on a track and something breaks a week later, this is where they will get the opportunity to refuse the claims. Very sneaky. Guess ill have to buy an out of MP M3 :thumbs:

 

[Bugger]

Yip, that's exactly it. The dealers have become very smart in diagnosing things that may prevent MP paying out,saves them money. :thumbdo: Does kinda defeat the object of selling a car like that though.

 

[Quick///M]

Yip, that's exactly it. The dealers have become very smart in diagnosing things that may prevent MP paying out,saves them money. :thumbdo: Does kinda defeat the object of selling a car like that though.

Yeah exactly not cool to buy a track car which can't be used at a track. Its like buying a fridge and then being told "Sorry can't use it in your kitchen"

 

[Bugger]

:roflol:

 

[tcal69]

I know.... what kind of BS is that... is like a same thing when I heard something about you cant launch the DCT more than 5 times, ECU will pick it up and MP will be void....:yuck:

 

[Bugger]

I'm too scared to use LC....in case I look in the rearview mirror and there's a gearbox lying on the road.

 

[Drama]

I know.... what kind of BS is that... is like a same thing when I heard something about you cant launch the DCT more than 5 times, ECU will pick it up and MP will be void....:yuck:

Since discovering LC, think I've used it about 4/5 times now. So does that mean I can't ever use it again without voiding the mp?


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[Bugger]

I think on the DCT boxes it's different from the SMG boxes. Cos the DCT boxes are a little more resilient than SMG (this is hearsay by the way), you should be able to use LC more. Again though, with something as specific as that, I would speak to the dealer and find out. Rather be safe than sorry. Cos if that IS the case, you don't want a fright when you need a new clutch and BMW say sorry,too many LC's.

 

[Drama]

Yeah plus how often would anyone want to use LC in any case. I don't drive my cars hard and recklessly so LC shouldn't be the exception.


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[Bugger]

I don't understand why you'd have LC in a car anyways,it's not like you SHOULD be using it on public roads,it's supposed to be used for track events. That being said,it's understood that it will be used regardless. I have a "friend" with an A45 AMG that used LC at just about every robot he pulled up to. His DCT (or whatever the Merc equivalent is) lasted 3 months. From brand new....out the box. And surprisingly, Merc covered the entire repair.

 

[Philip Foglar]

On one side I do think this is stupid, but then one has to also consider that putting a car on a track is going to ultimately cause extra wear and tear - which then motorplan is being expected to cover. It's a tricky one, plus, what kind of abuse does the car sustain? Not everyone considering taking their cars onto a track are really that well equipped in terms of skill and experience, bad things can happen so quickly and easily.

This is why getting an older BMW like an E36 or something along those lines is the way to go. Still something I intend doing someday.

 

[carelvos]

And if you "abuse" the car on the road?

Then they should not allow you to turn driving aids off, and limit the rpm to 3000.

 

[Philip Foglar]

Can't argue with that. But cars are made for use on public roads with rules of the road in mind. On a track you are open to explore the capabilities of the car a lot more. I feel sorry for dealers having to deal with cars that have obviously been abused. And what is considered "abuse" does vary greatly from person to person. This is why this is a difficult thing to debate.

 

[Lee335]

I have tracked my car multiple times in the last year before selling it and never did I have a issue from BMW refusing to replace any parts under motorplan.My Car has been in the On Track magazine multiple times and my name and it was never mentioned on the system nor by a dealer.

I used to make sure to remove my plates and disc but it did not really make a difference as the VIN was on my Windscreen

I encourage you guys to try it as it is fun and you learn to appreciate your car even more once you experience what your machine is capable of doing
:thumbs:

 

[Magneto]

Ok so let me get this. You have LC but you can't use it to much else it breaks the car and possibly voids a warranty claim.

You have LC but BMW say it's not recommended for road use so you have to use it on the track

You not allowed to go to the track because BMW will void your warranty.

Now I know why Porsches are considered true performance cars. You don't have this nonsense.